|
Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 25, 2016 20:33:35 GMT
What is he then? He doesn't track his men and would rather just lazily foul them and he just lets them go way too easily. He's lazy. He's a fabulous player but his defensive side and he does need one is pretty atrocious. From his body shape to tracking runners. He loves a sly kick out too. Lazy ? in that case so is Arnie, Imbula so is Shaq so was RF10 and any number of players. It's a team effort and to be fair no fucker has covered themselves in glory theses last few weeks. Arnie in no way shape or form is lazy. Shaq definitely can be. Fuller wasn't, you don't want him charging around. It's part of Imbula's job! And again it's not just these last few weeks. When he was being wanked off it was being discussed.
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Apr 25, 2016 20:34:27 GMT
What a strange thing to do, are you normal ? I don't know, ask your mother. I would love to but I would need a medium she died 12 years ago, I would speak to your father but I doubt you have one that stuck around judging you on that pathetic response and others, pretty much confirmed my assessment of you sick man.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 20:37:30 GMT
Lazy ? in that case so is Arnie, Imbula so is Shaq so was RF10 and any number of players. It's a team effort and to be fair no fucker has covered themselves in glory theses last few weeks. Arnie in no way shape or form is lazy. Shaq definitely can be. Fuller wasn't, you don't want him charging around. It's part of Imbula's job! And again it's not just these last few weeks. When he was being wanked off it was being discussed. Arnie is not lazy ? RF was not lazy ? or was he so good we let him off ? What about Ryan for the peno ? what about Geoff losing his man for the header ? lazy or is it just Natalie who's a lazy expensive passenger who needs to buck his ideas up.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 25, 2016 20:43:12 GMT
Arnie in no way shape or form is lazy. Shaq definitely can be. Fuller wasn't, you don't want him charging around. It's part of Imbula's job! And again it's not just these last few weeks. When he was being wanked off it was being discussed. Arnie is not lazy ? RF was not lazy ? or was he was so good we let him off ? What about Ryan for the peno ? what about Geoff losing his man for the header ? lazy or is it just Natalie who's a lazy expensive passenger who needs to buck his ideas up. Arnie isn't lazy, his tracking back is excellent and he generally works his socks off. Fuller was a striker, I don't want strikers to be running around wasting effort tbh. One of my favourite strikers of all time is Filippo Inzaghi, a right lazy fucker. Ryan for the peno was lazy. As I tweeted at the time. Geoff switched off, that's not laziness. Imbula when he plays as the second midfielder doesn't cover the ground he needs to and lets people get by too easily. He does seemingly have a lazy streak.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 20:51:30 GMT
Arnie is not lazy ? RF was not lazy ? or was he was so good we let him off ? What about Ryan for the peno ? what about Geoff losing his man for the header ? lazy or is it just Natalie who's a lazy expensive passenger who needs to buck his ideas up. Arnie isn't lazy, his tracking back is excellent and he generally works his socks off. Fuller was a striker, I don't want strikers to be running around wasting effort tbh. One of my favourite strikers of all time is Filippo Inzaghi, a right lazy fucker. Ryan for the peno was lazy. As I tweeted at the time. Geoff switched off, that's not laziness. Imbula when he plays as the second midfielder doesn't cover the ground he needs to and lets people get by too easily. He does seemingly have a lazy streak. Come on Bayern you're better than this Arnie can be a right lazy twat he spends a lot of time waving his arms about and dropping his head but it's not a popular thing to say, I lost count of the number of times he lost the ball the other day running down blind alleys and on more than one occasion he just shrugged and watched them break. I get what you are saying about Imbula's position but if no fucker else is doing there job he just gets over run in there, at the moment they have switched off as a team completely so I find it hard to single anyone out as being lazy as an individual.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 25, 2016 20:52:27 GMT
Arnie isn't lazy, his tracking back is excellent and he generally works his socks off. Fuller was a striker, I don't want strikers to be running around wasting effort tbh. One of my favourite strikers of all time is Filippo Inzaghi, a right lazy fucker. Ryan for the peno was lazy. As I tweeted at the time. Geoff switched off, that's not laziness. Imbula when he plays as the second midfielder doesn't cover the ground he needs to and lets people get by too easily. He does seemingly have a lazy streak. Come on Bayern you're better than this Arnie can be a right lazy twat he spends a lot of time waving his arms about and dropping his head but it's not a popular thing to say, I lost count of the number of times he lost the ball the other day running down blind alleys and on more than one occasion he just shrugged and watched them break. I get what you are saying about Imbula's position but if no fucker else is doing there job he just gets over run in there, at the moment they have switched off as a team completely so I find it hard to single anyone out as being lazy as an individual. I can't disagree more about Arnie.
|
|
|
Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 25, 2016 20:57:50 GMT
Certain players are blameless, others are not.
|
|
|
Post by crownmeking on Apr 25, 2016 21:01:48 GMT
I don't know, ask your mother. I would love to but I would need a medium she died 12 years ago, I would speak to your father but I doubt you have one that stuck around judging you on that pathetic response and others, pretty much confirmed my assessment of you sick man. Sorry to hear about your mother. You are still a knob head.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 21:05:00 GMT
Come on Bayern you're better than this Arnie can be a right lazy twat he spends a lot of time waving his arms about and dropping his head but it's not a popular thing to say, I lost count of the number of times he lost the ball the other day running down blind alleys and on more than one occasion he just shrugged and watched them break. I get what you are saying about Imbula's position but if no fucker else is doing there job he just gets over run in there, at the moment they have switched off as a team completely so I find it hard to single anyone out as being lazy as an individual. I can't disagree more about Arnie. Why because he's our top scorer and on his day can be brilliant ? I love Arnie but I also see the whole picture faults and all. Natalie is not perfect but he's not alone and to single him out is just wrong if you were being honest there are a lot of lazy candidates in all areas of the side.
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Apr 25, 2016 21:07:50 GMT
I would love to but I would need a medium she died 12 years ago, I would speak to your father but I doubt you have one that stuck around judging you on that pathetic response and others, pretty much confirmed my assessment of you sick man. Sorry to hear about your mother. You are still a knob head. Not surprised your father did not stick around sorry, you are still a sick bastard.
|
|
|
Post by stokefc on Apr 25, 2016 21:14:11 GMT
Sorry to hear about your mother. You are still a knob head. Not surprised your father did not stick around sorry, you are still a sick bastard. whats up with you two,my 12 year old daughter is more mature , keep it to the playground please
|
|
|
Post by crownmeking on Apr 25, 2016 21:15:28 GMT
Sorry to hear about your mother. You are still a knob head. Not surprised your father did not stick around sorry, you are still a sick bastard. Luckily I have one of the best fathers a guy could wish for, stood by me through thick and thin, and never gave up on me when he had every right to... Thanks for the concern though.
|
|
|
Post by crownmeking on Apr 25, 2016 21:16:14 GMT
Not surprised your father did not stick around sorry, you are still a sick bastard. whats up with you two,my 12 year old daughter is more mature , keep it to the playground please You are right mate... I am done with that conversation.
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Apr 25, 2016 21:25:53 GMT
whats up with you two,my 12 year old daughter is more mature , keep it to the playground please You are right mate... I am done with that conversation. You have a mate sicko.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 21:58:21 GMT
Give the lad some time to acclimatise. Christ.
|
|
|
Post by kustokie on Apr 26, 2016 5:23:20 GMT
Some would consider Johann Cruyff lazy - he hated running and used to hide behind a tree smoking a fag till the others came back.
|
|
|
Post by Lightwood on Apr 26, 2016 8:14:55 GMT
Never mind tracking back, he needs to be fined for wearing gloves, it was a lovely spring day on Saturday and he's wearing fucking gloves.......
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2016 8:48:39 GMT
I can't disagree more about Arnie. Why because he's our top scorer and on his day can be brilliant ? I love Arnie but I also see the whole picture faults and all. Natalie is not perfect but he's not alone and to single him out is just wrong if you were being honest there are a lot of lazy candidates in all areas of the side. No because defensively I think he's our best winger and generally works his taters off. It's not exactly singling him out is it? It's his biggest fault and it is a pretty big one. The way he lets people get by him so easily is very frustrating and that can be cut out with some good coaching tbh. His body shape when lining up in position isn't right.
|
|
|
Post by supersimonstainrod on Apr 26, 2016 9:11:44 GMT
No. Again do you actually go on other boards and Twitter? And he does need to his lacksidasicalness out. It's a pretty big flaw in his game. He's one of the few players I've seen who's slower without the ball than he is with it. I'd be tempted to push him into an advanced role,play him centrally as one of the three behind the striker,the way he draws two or three defenders to him then just languidly rolls away from them is ridiculously good.Could seem him doing a lot of damage there and creating a lot of space for others with his ability to take players out of the game.
|
|
|
Post by kentpotter on Apr 26, 2016 9:17:11 GMT
As talented as he is with the ball at times , his back tracking can be woeful, just watching the game again and he simply does not work back or track his runners , you cant get away with that in this league , certainly not without getting punished for it . WOOOOAAAAH, RON ATKINSON TERRITORY! AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2016 10:10:24 GMT
No. Again do you actually go on other boards and Twitter? And he does need to his lacksidasicalness out. It's a pretty big flaw in his game. He's one of the few players I've seen who's slower without the ball than he is with it. I'd be tempted to push him into an advanced role,play him centrally as one of the three behind the striker,the way he draws two or three defenders to him then just languidly rolls away from them is ridiculously good.Could seem him doing a lot of damage there and creating a lot of space for others with his ability to take players out of the game. Yeah that's what I'd do, play him where Adam played at the end of last season, that sort of role.
|
|
|
Post by chrisparker on Apr 26, 2016 11:07:54 GMT
Imbula has played 9 games for Stoke so far. He's been our best player in 5 of those games. How can people write him off? He's not very good tracking back but that's probably due to lack of stamina more than anything else. He didn't play much at Porto. I think we've found a real gem in him (even though he didn't come cheap )
|
|
|
Post by Godo on Apr 26, 2016 12:02:45 GMT
I think it is more a case of not being clear where and how he should be playing. Pulling the ball down and looking to pass only to see that there is no movement ahead of him must be quite frustrating and presumably(?) instructions from the manager to keep the ball even if this requires lots of sideways passing whereas it looks as if Imbula's natural instinct is to play and pass in a forward direction. Clearly adapting to the pace and closing down of the premiership will also be an issue but I think (hope?) there is a quality player in there who simply needs to be utilised properly.
The real issue is that Mr Hughes doesn't seem to know what pattern of play he wants now that the rails have come off. Is Imbula's role to link the front to back with 2 defensive midfielders behind him? If so we can't then have a #10 in the attacking midfield role. I think we need to solidify the centre of the pitch with the addition of at least one quality centre back and a defensive midfielder and actually look to play progressively in wide areas e.g. ball played in front of quick wide men, full backs who overlap and support the (currently isolated) wide men etc and then Mr Imbula may actually have a progressive forward pass available to him!
|
|
|
Post by pez75 on Apr 26, 2016 12:09:49 GMT
What we need is 11 x Andy Cooke.
|
|
|
Post by jeycov on Apr 26, 2016 12:59:58 GMT
Most of the players have not yet fully adjusted to each others strengths - lots of hesitant players, not anticipating the movement of others and then been caught on the ball, running into trouble etc.
Lots of changes to the team and the set up
They are just as frustrated as we are, just like Arnie may wave his hands in the air, another player may make a silly tackle, others have some sort of outburst - it doesn't mean that they are not trying or bothered.
Imbula only joined the club in January!!
As fans we are reacting differently to this lack of form, some being more negative than others.
We all want to see success on the pitch and need to try as hard as possible to get behind the team despite the recent poor form
|
|
|
Post by thehoof on Apr 26, 2016 21:01:01 GMT
Actually none of our midfield are good a tracking back. Up until his injury, Affellay didn't track back particularly well. Glen does track back but once his man gets a yard in front, he never catches up. Shaq is definitely iffy, but you could then say that our fullbacks add nothing going forward as their final ball is invariably useless. I think our problem is that we don't ever put any pressure on the ball anywhere on the pitch.
|
|
|
Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 26, 2016 21:41:26 GMT
I'll tell thay summat - most of ' em dunna look fit ter may. If yer lewk at wot's bin botherin' us this sayzon yer can purr EET diyn ter fitness. Way conna brayk fast with ayte passing eet back, way conna track back with ayte blowyn outer at arsays an' wayer alwees injured. Arm telling ' thay I reckon way anner fit.
|
|
|
Post by kustokie on Apr 27, 2016 0:29:01 GMT
I'll tell thay summat - most of ' em dunna look fit ter may. If yer lewk at wot's bin botherin' us this sayzon yer can purr EET diyn ter fitness. Way conna brayk fast with ayte passing eet back, way conna track back with ayte blowyn outer at arsays an' wayer alwees injured. Arm telling ' thay I reckon way anner fit. Fantasteek, youth.
|
|
|
Post by 2004 on Apr 30, 2016 18:37:43 GMT
Bar a few times when were attacking he barely moved today and did some lazy poor tackles as well as getting a stupid yellow card! He has been our best player in a lot of games but this trait is getting slightly concerning.
|
|
|
Post by werrington on Apr 30, 2016 18:41:07 GMT
Bar a few times when were attacking he barely moved today and did some lazy poor tackles as well as getting a stupid yellow card! He has been our best player in a lot of games but this trait is getting slightly concerning. Jeez we love a scapegoat that can't handle disappointment He was excellent
|
|