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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 20:16:51 GMT
Banks Wilson Charlton Moore Cohen Peters Stiles Ball Charlton Hunt Hurst Marc Wilson is Irish mate, Soz. Shit. Better have a rethink then!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 20:25:17 GMT
Hart
Walker-Cahill-Smalling-Rose
Dier
Alli-Rooney
Welbeck-Kane-Vardy
Fuck it. After the lifeless, never looked like scoring World Cup I'm all out attack and see what happens
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Post by Trouserdog on May 1, 2016 20:37:14 GMT
I think a diamond is the first option I'd look at:
-----------Hart----------
Clyne...Smalling....Cahill.....Rose
...............Dier..................
......Alli...............Wilshere......
..............Barkley..............
........Kane........Vardy.......
If he's got to shoehorn Rooney in somewhere, then that's the best formation for doing so without leaving out one of Kane or Vardy- he'd have to leave out Barkley in this case. None of the wide men (other than Townsend) are in good form, so I think we should try this in the friendlies as a starting point. I know many will disagree with picking Wilshere but when/if he's fit he can be a class act.
Plan B against better sides would be 4-1-2-3
Same defence as above but with the midfield and attack being:
............Dier..........
....Alli...........Wilshere...
Sterling...Kane....Welbeck...
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 2, 2016 7:42:31 GMT
I'd play Sterling. He's a good player and he's a proper winger. If Rooney has to play, might as well be in midfield. Whose place is he taking there really? Sterling cost 49 mill. He has to play. Probably should start Carroll and Downing too. And why not play Rooney at right back instead? Let's go all out with the square peg ethos.
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 2, 2016 7:43:50 GMT
I think a diamond is the first option I'd look at: -----------Hart---------- Clyne...Smalling....Cahill.....Rose ...............Dier.................. ......Alli...............Wilshere...... ..............Barkley.............. ........Kane........Vardy....... If he's got to shoehorn Rooney in somewhere, then that's the best formation for doing so without leaving out one of Kane or Vardy- he'd have to leave out Barkley in this case. None of the wide men (other than Townsend) are in good form, so I think we should try this in the friendlies as a starting point. I know many will disagree with picking Wilshere but when/if he's fit he can be a class act. Plan B against better sides would be 4-1-2-3 Same defence as above but with the midfield and attack being: ............Dier.......... ....Alli...........Wilshere... Sterling...Kane....Welbeck... I like your first set up mate. Incorporates our 2 in form goal threats.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 2, 2016 8:31:50 GMT
I'd play Sterling. He's a good player and he's a proper winger. If Rooney has to play, might as well be in midfield. Whose place is he taking there really? Sterling cost 49 mill. He has to play. Probably should start Carroll and Downing too. And why not play Rooney at right back instead? Let's go all out with the square peg ethos. Says the man advocating playing Vardy out wide. Rooney's played in midfield plenty of times. Ideally he wouldn't play at all (as with Lallana), but if Roy is going to play him, and it appears he is, then that's a better role for him than instead of one of the Spurs lads. Sterling would provide some actual width and run at players. He's had a difficult season but he's a promising young player who will do very well in the end. The hatred of him stems from the move. Remind me what your team is again sorry? Townsend and Vardy out wide? Maybe we can get Scott Sinclair in there somewhere?
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Post by britsabroad on May 2, 2016 8:35:50 GMT
Hart Walker-Cahill-Smalling-Rose Dier Alli-Rooney Welbeck-Kane-Vardy Fuck it. After the lifeless, never looked like scoring World Cup I'm all out attack and see what happens Could work well if the two wide forwards both cover wide areas properly, which they both have done for club games in the past. Rooney is certainly in form as a midfielder which makes a change from most tournaments where hes just off an injury.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 8:54:08 GMT
Sterling cost 49 mill. He has to play. Probably should start Carroll and Downing too. And why not play Rooney at right back instead? Let's go all out with the square peg ethos. Says the man advocating playing Vardy out wide. Rooney's played in midfield plenty of times. Ideally he wouldn't play at all (as with Lallana), but if Roy is going to play him, and it appears he is, then that's a better role for him than instead of one of the Spurs lads. Sterling would provide some actual width and run at players. He's had a difficult season but he's a promising young player who will do very well in the end. The hatred of him stems from the move. Remind me what your team is again sorry? Townsend and Vardy out wide? Maybe we can get Scott Sinclair in there somewhere? Chief would you play an out of form Sterling or Andros Townsend who is on fire at the moment.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 2, 2016 8:58:22 GMT
Says the man advocating playing Vardy out wide. Rooney's played in midfield plenty of times. Ideally he wouldn't play at all (as with Lallana), but if Roy is going to play him, and it appears he is, then that's a better role for him than instead of one of the Spurs lads. Sterling would provide some actual width and run at players. He's had a difficult season but he's a promising young player who will do very well in the end. The hatred of him stems from the move. Remind me what your team is again sorry? Townsend and Vardy out wide? Maybe we can get Scott Sinclair in there somewhere? Chief would you play an out of form Sterling or Andros Townsend who is on fire at the moment. I struggle to be objective about Townsend because I can't stand him as a player, but he's in form and worth a place in the squad for the friendlies. Give him a run there, see how he does. Wide places are up for grabs but I'd like to see at least one proper winger in the side.
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 2, 2016 8:58:40 GMT
Says the man advocating playing Vardy out wide. Rooney's played in midfield plenty of times. Ideally he wouldn't play at all (as with Lallana), but if Roy is going to play him, and it appears he is, then that's a better role for him than instead of one of the Spurs lads. Sterling would provide some actual width and run at players. He's had a difficult season but he's a promising young player who will do very well in the end. The hatred of him stems from the move. Remind me what your team is again sorry? Townsend and Vardy out wide? Maybe we can get Scott Sinclair in there somewhere? Chief would you play an out of form Sterling or Andros Townsend who is on fire at the moment. He'd play Sterling. He cost lots of money and plays for Man City. Completely ignore form.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 2, 2016 9:00:22 GMT
Chief would you play an out of form Sterling or Andros Townsend who is on fire at the moment. He'd play Sterling. He cost lots of money and plays for Man City. Completely ignore form. Hang on, my case for playing Lallana in the last round of friendlies was entirely based on form and you gave me a load of shit about it!
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Post by blackpoolred on May 2, 2016 9:01:41 GMT
No stoke players No not picking people because stoke don't like them Mine: Hart Walker. Cahill smalling rose Dier. drinkwater Alli Walcot. kane. Sterling I think he will start with Lallana somewhere in there, because Roy rates him very highly and he always seems to perform well in an England shirt, Barkley may even be in the starting 11 and how can he leave Vardy out after his latest outing. I hope he does not get sentimental and try and fit Wayne in the starting lineup, as I think he needs to start with the younger more hungry and fearless players. I dont think the likes of Sterling, Sturridge, Walcott or Rooney will be near the starting lineup and I am not even sure whether all of them will even make it to the plane - Walcott & Sterling, I would say, are very doubtful
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 2, 2016 9:01:46 GMT
Sterling cost 49 mill. He has to play. Probably should start Carroll and Downing too. And why not play Rooney at right back instead? Let's go all out with the square peg ethos. Says the man advocating playing Vardy out wide. Rooney's played in midfield plenty of times. Ideally he wouldn't play at all (as with Lallana), but if Roy is going to play him, and it appears he is, then that's a better role for him than instead of one of the Spurs lads. Sterling would provide some actual width and run at players. He's had a difficult season but he's a promising young player who will do very well in the end. The hatred of him stems from the move. Remind me what your team is again sorry? Townsend and Vardy out wide? Maybe we can get Scott Sinclair in there somewhere? I like the team suggested by Trouserdog. That incorporates our in form goalscoring strikers. When you've got 2 English olayers who've got almost 50 premierleague goals between them, you should utilise that and play to your strengths. I like the idea of that diamond. I'd perhaps replace Barkley with Rooney though. If he has to play him then that's a much more natural position. Dier can sit and Wilshere could be the link player (if fit), allowing Alli a bit more freedom. Dier Wilshere Alli Rooney Kane Vardy
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 2, 2016 9:07:38 GMT
Says the man advocating playing Vardy out wide. Rooney's played in midfield plenty of times. Ideally he wouldn't play at all (as with Lallana), but if Roy is going to play him, and it appears he is, then that's a better role for him than instead of one of the Spurs lads. Sterling would provide some actual width and run at players. He's had a difficult season but he's a promising young player who will do very well in the end. The hatred of him stems from the move. Remind me what your team is again sorry? Townsend and Vardy out wide? Maybe we can get Scott Sinclair in there somewhere? I like the team suggested by Trouserdog. That incorporates our in form goalscoring strikers. When you've got 2 English olayers who've got almost 50 premierleague goals between them, you should utilise that and play to your strengths. I like the idea of that diamond. I'd perhaps replace Barkley with Rooney though. If he has to play him then that's a much more natural position. Dier can sit and Wilshere could be the link player (if fit), allowing Alli a bit more freedom. Dier Wilshere Alli Rooney Kane Vardy I could live with that. Who do you play as the link man if Wilshere doesn't make it though?
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 2, 2016 9:09:30 GMT
I like the team suggested by Trouserdog. That incorporates our in form goalscoring strikers. When you've got 2 English olayers who've got almost 50 premierleague goals between them, you should utilise that and play to your strengths. I like the idea of that diamond. I'd perhaps replace Barkley with Rooney though. If he has to play him then that's a much more natural position. Dier can sit and Wilshere could be the link player (if fit), allowing Alli a bit more freedom. Dier Wilshere Alli Rooney Kane Vardy I could live with that. Who do you play as the link man if Wilshere doesn't make it though? No idea. I like Delph but he hasn't played much.
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Post by ysc1 on May 2, 2016 9:11:43 GMT
-----------------hart----------------- Walker---cahill--smalling---rose ----------------dier------------------- ---------wilshire--alli--------------- Welbeck-----kane----sterling
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 2, 2016 9:18:44 GMT
I really like the look of Rooney in midfield. He gets lots of the ball and his passing is sublime. Wouldn't play him up front but in CM I think there's a spot for him.
I'd go with this
..............Hart............
Walker..Smelling..Cahill..Rose
..............Dier............
.......Alli........Rooney.....
.....Vardy........Wellbeck....
..............Kane. ..........
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Post by roylandstoke on May 2, 2016 13:06:42 GMT
I keep reading posts advocating Wilshere in the current best England 11.
Someone must have slipped something into my tea.
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Post by harryburrows on May 2, 2016 14:38:50 GMT
Chief would you play an out of form Sterling or Andros Townsend who is on fire at the moment. He'd play Sterling. He cost lots of money and plays for Man City. Completely ignore form. He's a one trick pony who used to play for man city , he's a cunt who shouldn't be going at all I'd even take young rashford instead
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Post by JC9 on May 2, 2016 15:53:20 GMT
Can't believe no one has suggested Mark Noble for midfield? He's been brilliant for the Hammers for a number of seasons and definitely deserves a chance in my view. Milner and Lallana offer nothing. Rooney is a prick but i'd put him in the CAM role when fit
Hart Walker Cahill Smalling Rose Noble Dier Ali Rooney Townsend Vardy/Kane
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2016 15:57:31 GMT
So Sam Wallace in the Telegraph suggesting Wilshere's almost certain to be in the 23. And speculates Woy may go with just the 3 centre-halves with Dier as cover.
Oxlade seems to be ruled out and Welbeck limped off with a knee injury today looking in a fair bit of distress?
Looks like these 21 are nailed-on then (although Stones is a baffler)
Hart, Forster, Heaton Clyne, Walker Rose, Bertrand Smalling, Cahill, Stones Dier, Wilshere, Milner, Alli, Barkley, Lallana, Sterling Kane, Vardy, Sturridge, Rooney
So who gets the final 2 places if Welbeck is ruled out?
Henderson if fit? Drinkwater? Townsend? Zaha?
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 8, 2016 16:00:43 GMT
I heard the other day Liverpool expect Henderson to be fit so I imagine he'll definitely be included. Welbeck going off injured today is a blow though.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 8, 2016 16:02:40 GMT
So Sam Wallace in the Telegraph suggesting Wilshere's almost certain to be in the 23. And speculates Woy may go with just the 3 centre-halves with Dier as cover. Oxlade seems to be ruled out and Welbeck limped off with a knee injury today looking in a fair bit of distress? Looks like these 21 are nailed-on then (although Stones is a baffler) Hart, Forster, Heaton Clyne, Walker Rose, Bertrand Smalling, Cahill, Stones Dier, Wilshere, Milner, Alli, Barkley, Lallana, Sterling Kane, Vardy, Sturridge, RooneySo who gets the final 2 places if Welbeck is ruled out? Henderson if fit? Drinkwater? Townsend? Zaha? Do we think he'll definitely take four specialist full backs, or will he take an extra centre half and use someone like Stones or Dier as cover for right back? I can't see him not taking Henderson if he's fit, regrettably.
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 8, 2016 16:03:17 GMT
It doesn't have wilshere in it.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2016 16:10:22 GMT
So Sam Wallace in the Telegraph suggesting Wilshere's almost certain to be in the 23. And speculates Woy may go with just the 3 centre-halves with Dier as cover. Oxlade seems to be ruled out and Welbeck limped off with a knee injury today looking in a fair bit of distress? Looks like these 21 are nailed-on then (although Stones is a baffler) Hart, Forster, Heaton Clyne, Walker Rose, Bertrand Smalling, Cahill, Stones Dier, Wilshere, Milner, Alli, Barkley, Lallana, Sterling Kane, Vardy, Sturridge, RooneySo who gets the final 2 places if Welbeck is ruled out? Henderson if fit? Drinkwater? Townsend? Zaha? Do we think he'll definitely take four specialist full backs, or will he take an extra centre half and use someone like Stones or Dier as cover for right back? I can't see him not taking Henderson if he's fit, regrettably. Yeah, possibly. www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/07/jack-wilshere-to-be-named-in-roy-hodgsons-23-man-england-squad-f/Sam Wallace mentions that possibility - and strangely suggests it may be Walker or Rose to miss out. Stones actually looked good at RB in his early career before the punditocracy decided he was Beckenbauer. Also mentions the face Hodgson could be reluctant to take 2 gambles on both Wilshere and Henderson.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2016 17:31:57 GMT
Looks like there's a bit of concern about Welbeck
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