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Post by ryan4england on Mar 22, 2016 19:00:18 GMT
Seeing this shit on tele is becoming a regular thing now, if you didn't know any better you wouldn't believe it if somebody told you we were inviting these cunts to live amongst us in the u.k. You couldn't make that shit up
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Post by basingstokie on Mar 22, 2016 19:01:52 GMT
Sadly these events are not as shocking as they once where. We know IS are absolute savages.
We simply need a concerted effort across the western world to remove all of them from the face of the earth.
Rest in Peace to those who lost their lives today
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 19:03:14 GMT
And round up every single member of their families and friends in their communities and fuck em off. Let them march through the streets of Britain preaching their hatred and when they do round them up and put them in front of a firing squad and then round up all their families and friends in their communities and fuck them off as well. Then anyone who complains about this, round them up and fuck them off as well. Zero tolerance needed from now on. Any chance you could fuck off for a bit? Unfortunately for you... No
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 22, 2016 19:08:28 GMT
Any chance you could fuck off for a bit? Unfortunately for you... No Shame. I like to see the radical right disappear - whether it's ISIS or our own, less destructive, brand of idiots. Two sides of the same coin really. In fact, what you advocated could be taken straight out of an ISIS video.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 19:43:29 GMT
It's just not something I can see ending any time soon, Europe is on the verge of something dreadful fighting these faceless extremists.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 19:47:45 GMT
Unfortunately for you... No Shame. I like to see the radical right disappear - whether it's ISIS or our own, less destructive, brand of idiots. Two sides of the same coin really. In fact, what you advocated could be taken straight out of an ISIS video. I want this country rid of the scum who have the potential to cause harm to myself,you and every other law abiding citizen of this country. Anybody who is known to be an active threat can be erased by any means necessary as far as I'm concerned and any members of their families or communities who are harbouring these individuals can be sent back to their native countries never to return. We are proving that just doing nothing isn't getting us anywhere, and pretty soon there will be more blood shed on the streets of our country which just might be caused by one of the bastards we see walking our streets waving their Anti Western banners about.
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Post by brilittle on Mar 22, 2016 19:56:22 GMT
Just mixed up angry individuals.
Them Jihadi fuckers are no angels either.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 22, 2016 20:11:18 GMT
These kind of attacks will be a regular event for the foreseeable future, it will happen on our own soil again at some point, of that there is no doubt. Unfortunately there is no quick fix and it's something the West will have to suffer for years to come. I'd like to see more efforts made to make the public more aware of how to spot these kind of people. Someone about to commit an attack of this nature would stand out like a sore thumb if you know what you were looking for. There would be an uproar if that information was given publicly, the do gooder apologist's would be crying racist, Nazi's etc. we all know what they look like in reality though some chose to ignore that fact. You really are a special kind of stupid what the poster is referring to is things like extra layers of clothing, unusual things like wearing 1 glove, looking nervous, sweating excessively etc. It's also predominantly young males (no women or kids with them) not you granddads or grandma's not just if they look like muslims. No surprise you hint at just ethnic \ racial profiling, how MI5 will cope when you retire I just don't know.
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Post by stoneroses on Mar 22, 2016 20:11:21 GMT
The cost of this one operation will run into tens of millions of pounds plus the cost of ongoing terrorist operations . Add to that the cost of his imprisonment and any subsequent arrests . You are suddenly approaching a scenario that could bring any European countries financial affairs to their knees . We are talking about massive sums of money being solely devoted to national security to maintain peace. EU governments will not be able to maintain this level of financial costs indefinitely and therefore any acts of terrorism or planned acts of terrorism should be dealt with the utmost severity . By that I mean death to anyone involved in such atrocitites . It is irrelevant if such people want to be seen as martyrs . We should simply make it happen . Firing squad is quite cheap and effective . What we now see is the result of decades of protectionism and pandering that many have predicted for years. It cannot continue any longer . This is war on European soil . This is a war we need to stop with the utmost urgency and if the family of terrorists are suspected of aiding and abetting their crusade of terrorism , then they too should be deported . Drastic plans and measures must now be discussed and acted upon . Any decent honest law abiding muslim witnessing todays events needs to appreciate our concerns and back whatever strategy the west introduces . This weeks events have taken us past the point of no return . There will be repercussions across the globe from Havana to Hanley because there are so many spindle cells of terrorists out there. My only hope is that we now all vote to get ourselves out of Europe and manage our own borders with greater vigour and forcefulness . Less handbags ...more hand grenades . ! You are slightly more articulate and have a better way with words than carpslayer (he comes across as the least intelligent person on this board which automatically propels him to the least intelligent person on the planet) whilst still holding very extremist views, which is counter intuitive on one hand and plain copying Islamic extremism on the other on how to deal with these issues... well done for making me chuckle though! As i read a post before who also pointed out that we have developed a judicial system over many 1000's of years which is one of the many factors which what separates us from the ideologies we currently face. I genuinely believe that if yourself and carpslayer had happened to be born 5000 miles east your mentality would lend itself to exactly what you find so disturbing...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 20:15:36 GMT
Just mixed up angry individuals. Them Jihadi fuckers are no angels either. "Those" Jihadi fuckers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 20:17:07 GMT
This is not a "war" that can be fought with conventional thinking it will be dark and messy.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 22, 2016 20:22:10 GMT
It's just not something I can see ending any time soon, Europe is on the verge of something dreadful fighting these faceless extremists. Not least from the enemy within.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 22, 2016 20:23:14 GMT
Of course every decent person is outraged by what happened in Brussels. The same way we felt when IRA bombs went off in London Birmingham & Manchester. "We only have to be lucky once..you have to be lucky always".. The IRA used to say. And they were right. But how do you spot a bomber? How do you spot a suicide bomber? How do you spot a Terrorist? Unless you round up every single Asian in the UK and put them in Concentration Camps..it is very difficult? (Don't even go there Carps ) We defeat these people through Human Intelligence..by turning people inside ISIS the way we turned people inside the IRA/UVF/UDA..informers who provided their handlers with the information to prevent operations from taking place. But that takes time. And time is something we don't have But we have to use 'due process' of Law and our Legal System to defeat these evil Bastards because if we don't we allow them to drag us down to there level.
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Post by mumf on Mar 22, 2016 20:24:28 GMT
The cost of this one operation will run into tens of millions of pounds plus the cost of ongoing terrorist operations . Add to that the cost of his imprisonment and any subsequent arrests . You are suddenly approaching a scenario that could bring any European countries financial affairs to their knees . We are talking about massive sums of money being solely devoted to national security to maintain peace. EU governments will not be able to maintain this level of financial costs indefinitely and therefore any acts of terrorism or planned acts of terrorism should be dealt with the utmost severity . By that I mean death to anyone involved in such atrocitites . It is irrelevant if such people want to be seen as martyrs . We should simply make it happen . Firing squad is quite cheap and effective . What we now see is the result of decades of protectionism and pandering that many have predicted for years. It cannot continue any longer . This is war on European soil . This is a war we need to stop with the utmost urgency and if the family of terrorists are suspected of aiding and abetting their crusade of terrorism , then they too should be deported . Drastic plans and measures must now be discussed and acted upon . Any decent honest law abiding muslim witnessing todays events needs to appreciate our concerns and back whatever strategy the west introduces . This weeks events have taken us past the point of no return . There will be repercussions across the globe from Havana to Hanley because there are so many spindle cells of terrorists out there. My only hope is that we now all vote to get ourselves out of Europe and manage our own borders with greater vigour and forcefulness . Less handbags ...more hand grenades . ! You are slightly more articulate and have a better way with words than carpslayer (he comes across as the least intelligent person on this board which automatically propels him to the least intelligent person on the planet) whilst still holding very extremist views, which is counter intuitive on one hand and plain copying Islamic extremism on the other on how to deal with these issues... well done for making me chuckle though! As i read a post before who also pointed out that we have developed a judicial system over many 1000's of years which is one of the many factors which what separates us from the ideologies we currently face. I genuinely believe that if yourself and carpslayer had happened to be born 5000 miles east your mentality would lend itself to exactly what you find so disturbing... I don't think anyone deserves personal comments like this. It doesnt show you in a good light son....
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 22, 2016 20:26:51 GMT
The cost of this one operation will run into tens of millions of pounds plus the cost of ongoing terrorist operations . Add to that the cost of his imprisonment and any subsequent arrests . You are suddenly approaching a scenario that could bring any European countries financial affairs to their knees . We are talking about massive sums of money being solely devoted to national security to maintain peace. EU governments will not be able to maintain this level of financial costs indefinitely and therefore any acts of terrorism or planned acts of terrorism should be dealt with the utmost severity . By that I mean death to anyone involved in such atrocitites . It is irrelevant if such people want to be seen as martyrs . We should simply make it happen . Firing squad is quite cheap and effective . What we now see is the result of decades of protectionism and pandering that many have predicted for years. It cannot continue any longer . This is war on European soil . This is a war we need to stop with the utmost urgency and if the family of terrorists are suspected of aiding and abetting their crusade of terrorism , then they too should be deported . Drastic plans and measures must now be discussed and acted upon . Any decent honest law abiding muslim witnessing todays events needs to appreciate our concerns and back whatever strategy the west introduces . This weeks events have taken us past the point of no return . There will be repercussions across the globe from Havana to Hanley because there are so many spindle cells of terrorists out there. My only hope is that we now all vote to get ourselves out of Europe and manage our own borders with greater vigour and forcefulness . Less handbags ...more hand grenades . ! You are slightly more articulate and have a better way with words than carpslayer (he comes across as the least intelligent person on this board which automatically propels him to the least intelligent person on the planet) whilst still holding very extremist views, which is counter intuitive on one hand and plain copying Islamic extremism on the other on how to deal with these issues... well done for making me chuckle though! As i read a post before who also pointed out that we have developed a judicial system over many 1000's of years which is one of the many factors which what separates us from the ideologies we currently face. I genuinely believe that if yourself and carpslayer had happened to be born 5000 miles east your mentality would lend itself to exactly what you find so disturbing... And you of course are hyper intelligent grow a pair soft lad wake up and smell the coffee, the only sort of justice these scum bag heathens understand is the type they carried out yet again today on western soil, these people are beneath compassion.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 22, 2016 20:29:35 GMT
You are slightly more articulate and have a better way with words than carpslayer (he comes across as the least intelligent person on this board which automatically propels him to the least intelligent person on the planet) whilst still holding very extremist views, which is counter intuitive on one hand and plain copying Islamic extremism on the other on how to deal with these issues... well done for making me chuckle though! As i read a post before who also pointed out that we have developed a judicial system over many 1000's of years which is one of the many factors which what separates us from the ideologies we currently face. I genuinely believe that if yourself and carpslayer had happened to be born 5000 miles east your mentality would lend itself to exactly what you find so disturbing... I don't think anyone deserves personal comments like this. It doesnt show you in a good light son.... He might grow up soon Mumf hopefully when he reaches puberty, about 13 should do it
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Post by stoneroses on Mar 22, 2016 20:50:11 GMT
You are slightly more articulate and have a better way with words than carpslayer (he comes across as the least intelligent person on this board which automatically propels him to the least intelligent person on the planet) whilst still holding very extremist views, which is counter intuitive on one hand and plain copying Islamic extremism on the other on how to deal with these issues... well done for making me chuckle though! As i read a post before who also pointed out that we have developed a judicial system over many 1000's of years which is one of the many factors which what separates us from the ideologies we currently face. I genuinely believe that if yourself and carpslayer had happened to be born 5000 miles east your mentality would lend itself to exactly what you find so disturbing... I don't think anyone deserves personal comments like this. It doesnt show you in a good light son.... Was'nt intended to be personal, just observational. I am sure your a decent enough guy just a complete difference of opinion on how to deal with things. I stand by what i put though.
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 22, 2016 20:50:40 GMT
There would be an uproar if that information was given publicly, the do gooder apologist's would be crying racist, Nazi's etc. we all know what they look like in reality though some chose to ignore that fact. You really are a special kind of stupid what the poster is referring to is things like extra layers of clothing, unusual things like wearing 1 glove, looking nervous, sweating excessively etc. It's also predominantly young males (no women or kids with them) not you granddads or grandma's not just if they look like muslims. No surprise you hint at just ethnic \ racial profiling, how MI5 will cope when you retire I just don't know. In the real world, ethnic/racial profiling is a reasonable starting point.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2016 20:54:58 GMT
The cost of this one operation will run into tens of millions of pounds plus the cost of ongoing terrorist operations . Add to that the cost of his imprisonment and any subsequent arrests . You are suddenly approaching a scenario that could bring any European countries financial affairs to their knees . We are talking about massive sums of money being solely devoted to national security to maintain peace. EU governments will not be able to maintain this level of financial costs indefinitely and therefore any acts of terrorism or planned acts of terrorism should be dealt with the utmost severity . By that I mean death to anyone involved in such atrocitites . It is irrelevant if such people want to be seen as martyrs . We should simply make it happen . Firing squad is quite cheap and effective . What we now see is the result of decades of protectionism and pandering that many have predicted for years. It cannot continue any longer . This is war on European soil . This is a war we need to stop with the utmost urgency and if the family of terrorists are suspected of aiding and abetting their crusade of terrorism , then they too should be deported . Drastic plans and measures must now be discussed and acted upon . Any decent honest law abiding muslim witnessing todays events needs to appreciate our concerns and back whatever strategy the west introduces . This weeks events have taken us past the point of no return . There will be repercussions across the globe from Havana to Hanley because there are so many spindle cells of terrorists out there. My only hope is that we now all vote to get ourselves out of Europe and manage our own borders with greater vigour and forcefulness . Less handbags ...more hand grenades . ! You are slightly more articulate and have a better way with words than carpslayer (he comes across as the least intelligent person on this board which automatically propels him to the least intelligent person on the planet) whilst still holding very extremist views, which is counter intuitive on one hand and plain copying Islamic extremism on the other on how to deal with these issues... well done for making me chuckle though! As i read a post before who also pointed out that we have developed a judicial system over many 1000's of years which is one of the many factors which what separates us from the ideologies we currently face. I genuinely believe that if yourself and carpslayer had happened to be born 5000 miles east your mentality would lend itself to exactly what you find so disturbing... Stone Genuine question Something serious and life changing has occurred today. It will , in all likelihood happen again. I can see the Elizabeth Tower being bombed eventually. I would not be too happy about that. Ricochet and Carpslayer have grasped the problem and have offered their solution. They are angry about the threat which we are under and seem to have identified " the enemy". Obviously what they are advocating will not happen ...... unless ten years down the line the ordinary " person n the street " takes the law into their own hands. And here is the question " What is your solution?" ( If we could all talk it over around the table that would be ideal)
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Post by stoneroses on Mar 22, 2016 21:07:16 GMT
You are slightly more articulate and have a better way with words than carpslayer (he comes across as the least intelligent person on this board which automatically propels him to the least intelligent person on the planet) whilst still holding very extremist views, which is counter intuitive on one hand and plain copying Islamic extremism on the other on how to deal with these issues... well done for making me chuckle though! As i read a post before who also pointed out that we have developed a judicial system over many 1000's of years which is one of the many factors which what separates us from the ideologies we currently face. I genuinely believe that if yourself and carpslayer had happened to be born 5000 miles east your mentality would lend itself to exactly what you find so disturbing... Stone Genuine question Something serious and life changing has occurred today. It will , in all likelihood happen again. I can see the Elizabeth tower being bombed eventually. I would not be too happy about that. Ricochet and Carps ayer have grasped the problem and have offered their solution. They are angry about the threat which we are under and seem to have identified " the enemy". Obviously what they are advocating will not happen ...... unless ten years down the line the ordinary " person n the street " takes the law into their own hands. And here is the question " What is your solution?" ( If we could all talk it over around the table that would be ideal) Haha around the table suits me just fine... It's a long argument/debate but i would have some starting points that i think would lead for a better and safer future. 1. Only a raging lunatic would think dropping more bombs on the east was the right thing to do, i would withdraw all troops from foreign lands and place them all over the UK safeguarding our own and putting any people off future attacks. Increase the defence budget and increase pay in the armed forces. 2. Any links, association, communication with extremist groups or ideas carry's a SERVERE prison term sentance. 3. Heavy EU pressure on countries known to have problems such as Belgium and France to carry out the same. 4. Arms stoped leaking in from Soviet and ex Soviet countries, they are currently to easy to obtain and mass shootings will only rise if not sorted. 5. Educate our own and remove it form been a tabboo subject. 6. Out anyone who has anything to gain from war. Arms companies, Mp's etc... A hand full of individuals seem to be able to come up with these plans right under the noses of official which is the worst part we need to stop pussy footing around and become ruthless with our actions but within our laws and regulations that we finely govern our lands.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Mar 22, 2016 21:13:05 GMT
Not surprisingly some on here aren't bright enough to understand that their 'round em up and fuck em off' attitudes is exactly what these extremists bastards are after.
Get ordinary people all wound up and fearful so that there's tension and mistrust between groups of people where it wouldn't otherwise exist. The extremists want to promote the idea that different groups are incapable of getting along, it's how they think they'll achieve their aim.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2016 21:19:20 GMT
Stone Can't disagree with much of what you say in principle. practically I think that it would be impossible to achieve. On your number 1 I probably would disagree in as much as - I don't necessarily believe that we should have got involved in the first place BUT , as they say, we are where we are - " we " either have to do something about ISIS OR eventually recognise them as a country. Unfortunately we may eventually need " boots on the ground" It could be argued that we should already have done something on th e basis of their crimes against humanity viz a viz the massacre of the Hazards. Also Al Quieda, Boko Haram and the Taliban still need to be dealt with. I agree with your sentiment to do with War/ Arms deals but again we are so tied up with the Saudi Arabia's etc and it is such an unstable world, I just can't see how it could happen. Ousting those with links to extremism is something most would agree with , but how we do this , when some may now be British citizens within our own community, is hard to achieve
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 22, 2016 21:20:14 GMT
What some people don't seem to realise or want to acknowledge is that to defeat the 'Muslim Enemy Within' we need Muslims to infiltrate it.
The recruitment of agents inside these Jihadi groups is absolutely essential to defeating them.
All it takes is one person to plant a bomb in a place full of people and the result is carnage.
What we have to do is reduce that number to an absolute minimum not act as a fucking recruiting sergeant to every wannabe Jihadi in the UK by some massive knee jerk reaction.
Think FIRST
Act later.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2016 21:21:49 GMT
Not surprisingly some on here aren't bright enough to understand that their 'round em up and fuck em off' attitudes is exactly what these extremists bastards are after. Get ordinary people all wound up and fearful so that there's tension and mistrust between groups of people where it wouldn't otherwise exist. The extremists want to promote the idea that different groups are incapable of getting along, it's how they think they'll achieve their aim. Rick My fear is that if things carry on with no hope of a solution, the Far Right will indeed rise up , and the recruiting ground will be the disenfranchised white working class.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 22, 2016 21:40:47 GMT
Of course every decent person is outraged by what happened in Brussels. The same way we felt when IRA bombs went off in London Birmingham & Manchester. "We only have to be lucky once..you have to be lucky always".. The IRA used to say. And they were right. But how do you spot a bomber? How do you spot a suicide bomber? How do you spot a Terrorist? Unless you round up every single Asian in the UK and put them in Concentration Camps..it is very difficult? (Don't even go there Carps ) We defeat these people through Human Intelligence..by turning people inside ISIS the way we turned people inside the IRA/UVF/UDA..informers who provided their handlers with the information to prevent operations from taking place. But that takes time. And time is something we don't have But we have to use 'due process' of Law and our Legal System to defeat these evil Bastards because if we don't we allow them to drag us down to there level. The term is internment camps as used during WWII I believe not that I would endorse that sort of radical action of course, of course we have to play by the rules not sure the enemy (for that is what they are) will adhere to them, we need to fight fire with fire not keep turning the other cheek as these barbarians are not civilised in the way of western people.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 21:49:43 GMT
Not surprisingly some on here aren't bright enough to understand that their 'round em up and fuck em off' attitudes is exactly what these extremists bastards are after. Get ordinary people all wound up and fearful so that there's tension and mistrust between groups of people where it wouldn't otherwise exist. The extremists want to promote the idea that different groups are incapable of getting along, it's how they think they'll achieve their aim. The trouble is I don't give a fuck about what makes these cunts happy or what their aim is. All I know is that they're a threat to me and all the other citizens of this country and I am sick of seeing these atrocities all over the world and also waiting for these bastards to take the lives of innocent people on these shores. So for those reasons I have no problem with our intelligence agencies,armed forces,police officers and so on, doing whatever they feel necessary to remove these fucking parasites and their supporters from our society. If that means removing them from our shores so be it, if it means wiping them from the face of the earth then I also have no problem with that whatsoever. I have a 13 year old step daughter at home who is shitting herself about going on holiday again this year and to be quite frank I can see why because these cunts are going to keep on doing what they're doing and eventually it's going to affect the lives of people we might know or love.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 22, 2016 21:51:12 GMT
Of course every decent person is outraged by what happened in Brussels. The same way we felt when IRA bombs went off in London Birmingham & Manchester. "We only have to be lucky once..you have to be lucky always".. The IRA used to say. And they were right. But how do you spot a bomber? How do you spot a suicide bomber? How do you spot a Terrorist? Unless you round up every single Asian in the UK and put them in Concentration Camps..it is very difficult? (Don't even go there Carps ) We defeat these people through Human Intelligence..by turning people inside ISIS the way we turned people inside the IRA/UVF/UDA..informers who provided their handlers with the information to prevent operations from taking place. But that takes time. And time is something we don't have But we have to use 'due process' of Law and our Legal System to defeat these evil Bastards because if we don't we allow them to drag us down to there level. The term is internment camps as used during WWII I believe not that I would endorse that sort of radical action of course, of course we have to play by the rules not sure the enemy (for that is what they are) will adhere to them, we need to fight fire with fire not keep turning the other cheek as these barbarians are not civilised in the way of western people. Funny you should mention WW2. We were facing a particularly barbaric ideology then as well, yet we managed to avoid public executions and some of the other things suggested on this thread.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 22, 2016 21:52:32 GMT
And round up every single member of their families and friends in their communities and fuck em off. Let them march through the streets of Britain preaching their hatred and when they do round them up and put them in front of a firing squad and then round up all their families and friends in their communities and fuck them off as well. Then anyone who complains about this, round them up and fuck them off as well. Zero tolerance needed from now on. Any chance you could fuck off for a bit? Yes...and take the other right wing nutjob with him....
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 22, 2016 22:01:21 GMT
Any chance you could fuck off for a bit? Yes...and take the other right wing nutjob with him.... Hooked again ALF, any excuses reasons memes for the latest barbaric atrocity carried out in the name of Islam by these Muslim scum bags.
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Post by mumf on Mar 22, 2016 22:02:38 GMT
Not surprisingly some on here aren't bright enough to understand that their 'round em up and fuck em off' attitudes is exactly what these extremists bastards are after. Get ordinary people all wound up and fearful so that there's tension and mistrust between groups of people where it wouldn't otherwise exist. The extremists want to promote the idea that different groups are incapable of getting along, it's how they think they'll achieve their aim. You seem rather "ordinary " if that's what you think. Can you please enlighten us mortals as to what has brought you to these conclusions ? Can I ask on what Basis you make such rash remarks ? How many Muslim countries have you visited and for how long ? You are not offering any informed intellectual expertise here , just your normal condescending rhetoric in order to win an UN-winnable argument . Any Muslim prepared to kill himself and other innocents deserves no respect whatsoever . The level to which anyone wants to go in terms of anger and insult is purely down to the individual . Many would argue totally justified. However , it does not require any personal opinion or excuse from you or any other third party to make the point any worse or better ...
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