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Pelle
Jun 9, 2016 20:39:21 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 9, 2016 20:39:21 GMT
Pelle not good enough for Stoke! Have some of you really lost it now? He really is a class player and despite his age I would really look forward to see him lead our lines! Pelle in and Crouchy out, maybe Joselu too as he is much the same kind of player without being the same class! He's good enough but he's no improvement on the best striker we have now and he's getting on. It doesn't make much sense. We can do better.
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Pelle
Jun 9, 2016 21:27:48 GMT
Post by kustokie on Jun 9, 2016 21:27:48 GMT
Pelle not good enough for Stoke! Have some of you really lost it now? He really is a class player and despite his age I would really look forward to see him lead our lines! Pelle in and Crouchy out, maybe Joselu too as he is much the same kind of player without being the same class! He's good enough but he's no improvement on the best striker we have now and he's getting on. It doesn't make much sense. We can do better. Agreed He's a year older than Diouf with slightly better strike rate playing for a slightly better team 23 goals in 68 appearances vs 16 in 60.
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Pelle
Jun 9, 2016 22:03:21 GMT
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Post by RAF on Jun 9, 2016 22:03:21 GMT
Not alot in it as it goes. Bony 1 in 2.3 games, Benteke 1 in 2.5 games and Pelle and Diouf 1 in 2.8 over their careers. Benteke and Bony have done cock all in 12 months all told. H And in the Premier League at Villa and Swansea where they were the main men they are virtually 1 in 2. They're a different league to Pelle and Diouf. I wouldn't have Pelle over Diouf tbh. It's about the NOW not THEN! Surely? H
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Pelle
Jun 9, 2016 22:27:39 GMT
Post by march4 on Jun 9, 2016 22:27:39 GMT
When he first came to the Prem, I would have said he was worth an awful lot to us.
However, his flame has somewhat dimmed since those halcyon days and he is now more of a risk.
Is he a lone striker????
Is he a traditional centre forward - I think so.
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Pelle
Jun 9, 2016 22:51:33 GMT
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Post by RAF on Jun 9, 2016 22:51:33 GMT
When he first came to the Prem, I would have said he was worth an awful lot to us. However, his flame has somewhat dimmed since those halcyon days and he is now more of a risk. Is he a lone striker???? Is he a traditional centre forward - I think so. Dunna worry March, goals and possession are not important, I'm surprised you are even interested? H :)
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Pelle
Jun 9, 2016 22:53:45 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 9, 2016 22:53:45 GMT
And in the Premier League at Villa and Swansea where they were the main men they are virtually 1 in 2. They're a different league to Pelle and Diouf. I wouldn't have Pelle over Diouf tbh. It's about the NOW not THEN! Surely? H I think it's about what they showed in the position they'd be in with us. They're both streets ahead of Pelle. Pelle would be a good back up for genuine competition. One of them pair would be our ticket to pushing for the top 6. Pelle is what we have already.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 9, 2016 23:06:46 GMT
Benteke is wanted by Chelsea. Bony seems to be happy warming the bench at Man. City. I'd take either in a heartbeat, but I would be amazed if they would entertain us.
Pelle is miles better than anything we've got and the only drawback is his age. We'd probably struggle to get him as well. I think we are overestimating our pulling power, and for us to be turning our noses up at the likes of Pelle is ludicrous.
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Pelle
Jun 10, 2016 5:44:24 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 10, 2016 5:44:24 GMT
Benteke is wanted by Chelsea. Bony seems to be happy warming the bench at Man. City. I'd take either in a heartbeat, but I would be amazed if they would entertain us. Pelle is miles better than anything we've got and the only drawback is his age. We'd probably struggle to get him as well. I think we are overestimating our pulling power, and for us to be turning our noses up at the likes of Pelle is ludicrous. Goals wise he isn't. We need someone to break 15 league goals. He isn't that man. We need a next level striker, Pelle isn't it. Good player but let's have some ambition. Edit-Aubamayang is meant to be off to Man City, can't see Bony being so happy then.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 10, 2016 7:09:41 GMT
Benteke is wanted by Chelsea. Bony seems to be happy warming the bench at Man. City. I'd take either in a heartbeat, but I would be amazed if they would entertain us. Pelle is miles better than anything we've got and the only drawback is his age. We'd probably struggle to get him as well. I think we are overestimating our pulling power, and for us to be turning our noses up at the likes of Pelle is ludicrous. Goals wise he isn't. We need someone to break 15 league goals. He isn't that man. We need a next level striker, Pelle isn't it. Good player but let's have some ambition. Edit-Aubamayang is meant to be off to Man City, can't see Bony being so happy then. I like Bony and said on here ages ago(Tone was still the manager!) we should try to get him. We'd just qualified for Europe so we might have been a good proposition,who knows? I agree regarding ambition and I'd like a new striker to be in the 25-28 age range, ideally. I suppose it depends on who you think are realistic targets for us, and how the likes of Benteke or Bony view Stoke City. I've said I'd be happy with either being here, I'm just not sure they feel the same.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 10, 2016 8:28:05 GMT
Goals wise he isn't. We need someone to break 15 league goals. He isn't that man. We need a next level striker, Pelle isn't it. Good player but let's have some ambition. Edit-Aubamayang is meant to be off to Man City, can't see Bony being so happy then. I like Bony and said on here ages ago(Tone was still the manager!) we should try to get him. We'd just qualified for Europe so we might have been a good proposition,who knows? I agree regarding ambition and I'd like a new striker to be in the 25-28 age range, ideally. I suppose it depends on who you think are realistic targets for us, and how the likes of Benteke or Bony view Stoke City. I've said I'd be happy with either being here, I'm just not sure they feel the same. I think if we offered them first team football and good money they'd love us! If we want one of these strikers and I think we do then we've got to be looking at offering some decent wages (or there's no point). Then it will come down to who offers the most and the profile of the club. I don't see why we shouldn't be in for them. Benteke though wouldn't really suit us mind unless we changed how we play.
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Pelle
Jun 10, 2016 14:48:11 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Jun 10, 2016 14:48:11 GMT
Pelle not good enough for Stoke! Have some of you really lost it now? He really is a class player and despite his age I would really look forward to see him lead our lines! Pelle in and Crouchy out, maybe Joselu too as he is much the same kind of player without being the same class! He's good enough but he's no improvement on the best striker we have now and he's getting on. It doesn't make much sense. We can do better. Not sure we will agree on this one either Bayern, but football is about opinions as well and of course people will see things differently. I really have no problem with that, but still really hope he will sign for us.
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Pelle
Jun 10, 2016 15:24:11 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 10, 2016 15:24:11 GMT
He's good enough but he's no improvement on the best striker we have now and he's getting on. It doesn't make much sense. We can do better. Not sure we will agree on this one either Bayern, but football is about opinions as well and of course people will see things differently. I really have no problem with that, but still really hope he will sign for us. The overall play of our side might improve but in a better side than ours with better attacking players around and much better attacking full backs he's still managed to only get one more than Diouf as a league total. And that was 12 in 38, in the same season Mame got 11 in 34. He did get 11 in 30 this season though. Mame played right back. We can do better, if he comes here as well as a top bollock striker then ace!
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Pelle
Jun 10, 2016 19:08:05 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Jun 10, 2016 19:08:05 GMT
Not sure we will agree on this one either Bayern, but football is about opinions as well and of course people will see things differently. I really have no problem with that, but still really hope he will sign for us. The overall play of our side might improve but in a better side than ours with better attacking players around and much better attacking full backs he's still managed to only get one more than Diouf as a league total. And that was 12 in 38, in the same season Mame got 11 in 34. He did get 11 in 30 this season though. Mame played right back. We can do better, if he comes here as well as a top bollock striker then ace! You might be right, but Pelle is quality on the ball which is Diouif's weak part as I see it. I can see the reason in your views, but I wouldn't mind having both here to be honest!
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Pelle
Jun 10, 2016 21:08:34 GMT
Post by richardparker on Jun 10, 2016 21:08:34 GMT
I'd be surprised if we are even interested in Pelle. He will follow Koeman to Everton. We are probably in the frame to inflate his price.
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Pelle
Jun 10, 2016 21:41:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 21:41:32 GMT
There is no way on gods earth Pelle would leave there to come here, even if we were in for him.
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Pelle
Jun 10, 2016 21:44:17 GMT
Post by chrisparker on Jun 10, 2016 21:44:17 GMT
He's a very good player but he isn't getting any younger.
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Pelle
Jun 10, 2016 22:16:51 GMT
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 10, 2016 22:16:51 GMT
He's a very good player but he isn't getting any younger. Is anybody?
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 20:51:42 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 13, 2016 20:51:42 GMT
That was a fair old goal.
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 21:12:00 GMT
Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 13, 2016 21:12:00 GMT
I'd love this guy at Stoke a proper striker.
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 21:14:21 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 21:14:21 GMT
BOOOOM !pick that one out
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 21:14:53 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 13, 2016 21:14:53 GMT
Bullied one of the best defenders in the Premier League tonight, still not good enough?
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 21:19:58 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2016 21:19:58 GMT
Bullied one of the best defenders in the Premier League tonight, still not good enough? I don't think anyone has said he's not good enough. Just that we can do better and have a striker who scores at a similar rate already. We can and we do.
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 21:21:26 GMT
Post by chrisparker on Jun 13, 2016 21:21:26 GMT
Well after the Euros he'll probably be off to a Champions League Club. Held his own tonight & was fabulous.
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 21:24:14 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 13, 2016 21:24:14 GMT
Bullied one of the best defenders in the Premier League tonight, still not good enough? I don't think anyone has said he's not good enough. Just that we can do better and have a striker who scores at a similar rate already. We can and we do. I hope we can find someone better, we'll be on to a winner if we do
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 21:29:28 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2016 21:29:28 GMT
I don't think anyone has said he's not good enough. Just that we can do better and have a striker who scores at a similar rate already. We can and we do. I hope we can find someone better, we'll be on to a winner if we do Shouldn't be hard has his record is that of an average Premier League. He isn't the next level striker we need because he's shown he isn't that. And that's in a much better attacking side than ours.
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Pelle
Jun 13, 2016 21:33:18 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 13, 2016 21:33:18 GMT
I hope we can find someone better, we'll be on to a winner if we do Shouldn't be hard has his record is that of an average Premier League. He isn't the next level striker we need because he's shown he isn't that. And that's in a much better attacking side than ours. Tbf to Pelle, he is a proper target man and focal point who helps players like Mane get the goals they do. However I do agree with you, We need a striker with pace and clinical in front of goal.
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