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Post by clarkeda on Mar 5, 2016 21:27:47 GMT
I can't believe we turned down 10 million for him Must be on the wind up.
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Post by jarhead on Mar 5, 2016 21:35:48 GMT
So glad he stuck at it and got his goal and fully deserved.
It was good to see Bowen at half-time put his arm around Diouf and again when he subbed him after scoring along with Hughes and they had a laugh by the looks of it.
We need a better goal scorer without doubt but Diouf maybe to the end of the season is the man to lead the line especially away from home because he's a right pest.
Well done lad.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:17:39 GMT
Post by slother on Mar 5, 2016 22:17:39 GMT
CRITICSM OF HIM FIRST HALF TODAY ON THE MATCHDAY THREAD, WAS NOTHING SHORT OF DISGRACEFUL AND ULTIMATELY, EMBARRASING I came to the board expecting criticism but was actually pleased almost all were encouraged and pleased by what they saw. So pleased he repaid their faith before he was subbed.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:38:37 GMT
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Post by pottermouth on Mar 5, 2016 22:38:37 GMT
I thought Diouf missed several guild edged chances, poor technique and falls over the ball a lot. Stoke need a decent striker and Diouf is not the answer imho.
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Mar 5, 2016 23:06:35 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 5, 2016 23:06:35 GMT
I like Diouf but I would have him as back up. We need a striker who can hold the ball up and finish. Diouf does give us a lot though in terms of effort, pace, and he seems like a good pro. Pleased he scored today as he looked distraught at missing the two easy chances. But again, we need a slight upgrade for the striker position
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Mar 5, 2016 23:20:01 GMT
Post by jezzascfc on Mar 5, 2016 23:20:01 GMT
Diouf, in his own way, is as limited as Walters. Neither have all the attributes we need in a striker (Joselu doesn't either, come to think of it). However. like Walters, he does his very best at all times (maybe not like Joselu, who has a habit of strolling around far too often) - his best may fall short on occasions, but he tries, and we all love a trier.
We do need a new striker to go with the attacking midfield riches we possess, and it could well cost us as much as Imbula, or even a bit more, to find one with the attributes we require - but I'd be happy for Mame to stay as a bench option. I'm glad he scored today as strikers rely on confidence and goals breed confidence.
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Mar 5, 2016 23:22:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 23:22:26 GMT
Diouf, in his own way, is as limited as Walters. Neither have all the attributes we need in a striker (Joselu doesn't either, come to think of it). However. like Walters, he does his very best at all times (maybe not like Joselu, who has a habit of strolling around far too often) - his best may fall short on occasions, but he tries, and we all love a trier. We do need a new striker to go with the attacking midfield riches we possess, and it could well cost us as much as Imbula, or even a bit more, to find one with the attributes we require - but I'd be happy for Mame to stay as a bench option. I'm glad he scored today as strikers rely on confidence and goals breed confidence. He may be as limited as Walters Jez but we look so much better with Mame up front. He's a Walters with pace.
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Mar 5, 2016 23:26:03 GMT
Post by jezzascfc on Mar 5, 2016 23:26:03 GMT
Diouf, in his own way, is as limited as Walters. Neither have all the attributes we need in a striker (Joselu doesn't either, come to think of it). However. like Walters, he does his very best at all times (maybe not like Joselu, who has a habit of strolling around far too often) - his best may fall short on occasions, but he tries, and we all love a trier. We do need a new striker to go with the attacking midfield riches we possess, and it could well cost us as much as Imbula, or even a bit more, to find one with the attributes we require - but I'd be happy for Mame to stay as a bench option. I'm glad he scored today as strikers rely on confidence and goals breed confidence. He may be as limited as Walters Jez but we look so much better with Mame up front. He's a Walters with pace. Agreed - out of the two, I would generally play Mame. Defenders hate pace. Ideally, any new striker must have Mame's pace, but better technical ability and composure in front of goal. That won't come cheap.
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Post by corky on Mar 5, 2016 23:30:15 GMT
I just don't understand all the praise he gets. Yes, he scored but I honestly thought he didn't play well. Everyone seems to be delighted with the goal he scored (as am I) but he missed two chances. By that point we should have been 2-1 up. You could just as easily argue he lost us two points as claim he saved us one. Other than the goal I don't see what he was offering, I don't see that he was 'a handful' and I certainly don't remember him making a single contribution with regard to assists or shots on target. Hughes must have thought similarly because he was just about to pull him when he scored. It's a funny old game. So often people can watch the same match but have entirely different views. I genuinely thought his performance today would get more agreeing with my long held view that he's actually a better defender than attacker. His speed, his strength and his determination make him a natural defender, as does his lack of finesse, his poor close control and his unpredictable finishing. Still, so many on here clearly disagree that I'm genuinely beginning to question my long held confidence in my discerning eye for a well played match. Perhaps my years of experience playing (to a reasonable standard) and watching footie are entirely worthless. Perhaps I really have got this all wrong. Perhaps I am, as an earlier poster suggested, 'a big slithery penis'. Anyway, I'll keep watching, I'll keep cheering on the boys in red and white and I'll keep hoping that Imbula is the world class genius I believe him to be. (And that I'm not as wrong about that as I clearly am about Diouf).
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Mar 5, 2016 23:37:52 GMT
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Post by stokiedan17 on Mar 5, 2016 23:37:52 GMT
We need the love child of diouf and fuller. Dioufs positioning is in my opinion fantastic. His finishing needs to be worked on and his natural pace aling with positioning causes so many problems for defences. Throw in fullers tricks and finishing we have the striker we need.... Any budding biologists who want to make a name for themselves get on this ASAP!!
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Mar 6, 2016 0:11:02 GMT
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 6, 2016 0:11:02 GMT
I like how he has a little moan at himself then gets back in front of goal.
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Mar 6, 2016 0:22:10 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 6, 2016 0:22:10 GMT
We need the love child of diouf and fuller. Dioufs positioning is in my opinion fantastic. His finishing needs to be worked on and his natural pace aling with positioning causes so many problems for defences. Throw in fullers tricks and finishing we have the striker we need.... Any budding biologists who want to make a name for themselves get on this ASAP!! Loved Ric, he's in my top 3 Stoke players of all time but he was never the best finisher.
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Post by ryouonthistrain on Mar 6, 2016 1:01:55 GMT
Can't believe some of what I'm reading. The bloke given regular football would of probably bagged three goals today.give him a chance and he will shine.played up front all season I think he could possibly top 20 goals.
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Mar 6, 2016 1:06:35 GMT
Post by mumf on Mar 6, 2016 1:06:35 GMT
We need Mark Stein .
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Mar 6, 2016 2:08:42 GMT
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Post by britsabroad on Mar 6, 2016 2:08:42 GMT
Hes Stoke's version of Danny Welbeck. He does almost everything right but he just cant finish. Not much point in a striker who cant finish if youre hoping to break into the European spots.
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Mar 6, 2016 2:13:50 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 6, 2016 2:13:50 GMT
Hes Stoke's version of Danny Welbeck. He does almost everything right but he just cant finish. Not much point in a striker who cant finish if youre hoping to break into the European spots. You've compared him with a bloke who when fit plays regularity for his country and has only been on the books permanently of two of the best clubs in world football! Not bad for the pair of them I'd suggest! I actually really like both of them. Both very underrated.
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Mar 6, 2016 2:16:50 GMT
Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 6, 2016 2:16:50 GMT
It's impossible to dislike Diouf.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 6, 2016 2:24:47 GMT
I am utterly amazed at the stick he's received on here. The guy has been out the team and is thrown in against a very good team, misses a few half chances and is considered shit.
Btw, the technique behind his header was excellent. He had to generate all the power as the ball had no momentum. Excellent.
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Mar 6, 2016 2:30:08 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 6, 2016 2:30:08 GMT
I am utterly amazed at the stick he's received on here. The guy has been out the team and is thrown in against a very good team, misses a few half chances and is considered shit. Btw, the technique behind his header was excellent. He had to generate all the power as the ball had no momentum. Excellent. He's brilliant in the air. Which is one of the reasons I don't get why that since we've had him we've barely crossed a ball onto his sodding head!
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Mar 6, 2016 5:35:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 5:35:33 GMT
He frustrates the hell out of me TBH, had SJW or even Arnie missed the chances Diouf did then they would be absolutely slated, However, I really like his spirit, and his workrate, and the fact that he does track back, even when he is having a bad game his head never really goes, and I am quite sure that goal will have done him no end of good in terms of confidence, and lets face it, with what happened to him off the pitch he really needs the big arm around him treatment, and that looks like exactly what Sparky is doing... Lump a tenner on him scoring next week...
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 6, 2016 8:06:51 GMT
He can look clumsy at times and he misses chances (what striker doesn't ) but when he plays we get chances and he gets chances.
He's got 4 goals from 10 starts this season and that is better than anyone else could muster.
He stretches defences, his movement is quick and clever and he never stops trying.
Whilst fully aware of his faults I find it very difficult to dislike the guy. Give him a regular run in the side and he will score goals and he will help our team play better because he creates the space our better players need. It's no coincidence the front 4 carried a threat all day. Diouf occupied their 2 centre halves so they couldnt double up on shaqiri, arnie and afellay.
Go on dioufy lad!
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 6, 2016 8:12:47 GMT
The misses don't worry me - he's not had much time up front and he's a confidence player.
The sign of a bad striker isn't missing chances, it's not getting into the positions to get the chances in the first place.
Diouf didn't let the misses affect him and kept getting into those areas and it paid off handsomely.
The acid test will come at home against defensive sides - we tend to get more chances away regardless because there's more space.
He was one of our best three players yesterday I thought.
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Mar 6, 2016 8:18:41 GMT
Post by Gods on Mar 6, 2016 8:18:41 GMT
I am utterly amazed at the stick he's received on here. The guy has been out the team and is thrown in against a very good team, misses a few half chances and is considered shit. Btw, the technique behind his header was excellent. He had to generate all the power as the ball had no momentum. Excellent. He's brilliant in the air. Which is one of the reasons I don't get why that since we've had him we've barely crossed a ball onto his sodding head! He is very, very good in the air, I'm not sure you can say the same of some of his work on the ground, but in the air he is top class.
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Mar 6, 2016 8:21:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 8:21:09 GMT
I just don't understand all the praise he gets. Yes, he scored but I honestly thought he didn't play well. Everyone seems to be delighted with the goal he scored (as am I) but he missed two chances. By that point we should have been 2-1 up. You could just as easily argue he lost us two points as claim he saved us one. Other than the goal I don't see what he was offering, I don't see that he was 'a handful' and I certainly don't remember him making a single contribution with regard to assists or shots on target. Hughes must have thought similarly because he was just about to pull him when he scored. It's a funny old game. So often people can watch the same match but have entirely different views. I genuinely thought his performance today would get more agreeing with my long held view that he's actually a better defender than attacker. His speed, his strength and his determination make him a natural defender, as does his lack of finesse, his poor close control and his unpredictable finishing. Still, so many on here clearly disagree that I'm genuinely beginning to question my long held confidence in my discerning eye for a well played match. Perhaps my years of experience playing (to a reasonable standard) and watching footie are entirely worthless. Perhaps I really have got this all wrong. Perhaps I am, as an earlier poster suggested, 'a big slithery penis'. Anyway, I'll keep watching, I'll keep cheering on the boys in red and white and I'll keep hoping that Imbula is the world class genius I believe him to be. (And that I'm not as wrong about that as I clearly am about Diouf). It's all about opinions, but I don't think he missed a flick on all game. He does miss chances, granted, but I put that down to lack of game time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 8:33:51 GMT
Some of the critiscm Mame gets is crazy. Anyone would think he'd missed a couple of tap ins. The first one he's on the stretch and the second one the ball is behind him. I've seen phrases such as sitters, glaring misses, my granny /14 year old would have scored. This is either agenda driven bollocks or a complete lack of footballing knowledge.
I like Diouf,he came on a free, works his tits off,has bags of pace and is far and away our best striker.
We look a much better team with him up top and until we get someone better, for me he starts every week.
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Post by lewando on Mar 6, 2016 11:09:53 GMT
I've seen strikers like Lukaku miss loads of chances this season (several yesterday) but their manager keeps playing them and they get goals. Diouf is our best option upfront, play him.
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Mar 6, 2016 11:26:46 GMT
Post by kavinoz on Mar 6, 2016 11:26:46 GMT
Some of the critiscm Mame gets is crazy. Anyone would think he'd missed a couple of tap ins. The first one he's on the stretch and the second one the ball is behind him. I've seen phrases such as sitters, glaring misses, my granny /14 year old would have scored. This is either agenda driven bollocks or a complete lack of footballing knowledge. I like Diouf,he came on a free, works his tits off,has bags of pace and is far and away our best striker. We look a much better team with him up top and until we get someone better, for me he starts every week. Not only on the stretch he was still running at almost at full speed when he met the cross!
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 6, 2016 11:38:45 GMT
Bony missed a far easier chance then Mame's last night.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Mar 6, 2016 11:50:42 GMT
Sorry but he's not good enough to be playing with the players we have around him. A decent striker would have had a hat trick. Plenty of hussle and bustle but a bit like Akinbiya from which we moved on. Hughes will move him on in the summer
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 6, 2016 11:53:43 GMT
For all the criticism of his finishing, if you gave him a full season playing as a striker he'd get himself 15 goals. He's already got 4 in 10 and has hardly played up front in that time.
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