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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 22, 2016 18:19:06 GMT
Tried an excellent book by Susan Jeffers called Embracing Uncertainty Thoroughly recommended! Not sure I'd like that.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 22, 2016 19:01:34 GMT
Lifestyle change, diet, exercise has completely turned my life around since February. dont know if I'm right or wrong, but I put it down to a chemical imbalance of some sort I feel I'm the person I was when I was in my early 20's now Except for this....... Everything was like a dream for months until.......I re-introduced ....coffee. Costa/ Starbucks ....id call for a cappuccino decaf skinny. No immediate affect so driving on the motorway a lot taking my mum to Manchester for radio therapy a called quite a lot for coffees By the end of the week I'd completely reverted to my old anxious, irritable deep moody shit Only thing it could have been that had changed was I'd introduced coffee, so I stopped it immediately 2-3 days later I was back to feeling great and have been since I haven't touched alcohol since February but, I'd imagine that would be as bad if not worse. Just my thoughts. If you can continue with the no alcohol routine it's well worth it. It almost cost me big time up until a couple of years ago when it was a case of stop or it'll stop you. We're all different of course but it's worth it. Good luck.
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Post by trentvale68 on Jul 22, 2016 19:07:28 GMT
Id love to give the booze up; its only 3 pints a night (most nights mind) but I don't know what I could replace it with. Don't want to rattle around the house alone every night but aint going out to drink coca cola either LOL
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 22, 2016 19:18:41 GMT
Id love to give the booze up; its only 3 pints a night (most nights mind) but I don't know what I could replace it with. Don't want to rattle around the house alone every night but aint going out to drink coca cola either LOL I made the near fatal mistake of bringing everything into my flat. One pub in the remote Welsh town, workmates who lived away from me so drank indoors. Functioning they call it don't they. Then when I fell ill it was liver and kidney disease. Didn't have the choice but to stop. Not easy because I enjoyed a few beers but it was a stark choice.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 19:52:14 GMT
Lifestyle change, diet, exercise has completely turned my life around since February. dont know if I'm right or wrong, but I put it down to a chemical imbalance of some sort I feel I'm the person I was when I was in my early 20's now Except for this....... Everything was like a dream for months until.......I re-introduced ....coffee. Costa/ Starbucks ....id call for a cappuccino decaf skinny. No immediate affect so driving on the motorway a lot taking my mum to Manchester for radio therapy a called quite a lot for coffees By the end of the week I'd completely reverted to my old anxious, irritable deep moody shit Only thing it could have been that had changed was I'd introduced coffee, so I stopped it immediately 2-3 days later I was back to feeling great and have been since I haven't touched alcohol since February but, I'd imagine that would be as bad if not worse. Just my thoughts. If you can continue with the no alcohol routine it's well worth it. It almost cost me big time up until a couple of years ago when it was a case of stop or it'll stop you. We're all different of course but it's worth it. Good luck. I hardly drank mate but, I could tell it made a difference to my personality the next few days Only had one bottle of red at the weekend And on occasions one bottle of beer at the match Not bad for a boy brought up by parents who were publicans Doing without hasn't bothered me one bit Cake on the other hand
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Post by trentvale68 on Jul 22, 2016 19:53:01 GMT
Id love to give the booze up; its only 3 pints a night (most nights mind) but I don't know what I could replace it with. Don't want to rattle around the house alone every night but aint going out to drink coca cola either LOL I made the near fatal mistake of bringing everything into my flat. One pub in the remote Welsh town, workmates who lived away from me so drank indoors. Functioning they call it don't they. Then when I fell ill it was liver and kidney disease. Didn't have the choice but to stop. Not easy because I enjoyed a few beers but it was a stark choice. Now the drinking indoors is a bug that's never bitten me - had sherry, cans of lagers etc and never bothered with them, still where they are
Its 50/50 with me, its a social thing but obv the alcohol is an element cos I could drink soft drinks in the pub if I really wanted to but I never would!
Im kind of lucky in that more than 4 pints bloats me and I don't like spirits
I stay away from wine though as I could fucking just knock it back for England - anyone can-doesn't bloat or sting does it so I purposely avoid it!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 3:08:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 3:50:41 GMT
That's a really good read. It ties in with a lot of things I've read in the past and makes a lot of sense. We have to find a way to turn our backs on the stupidly of modern society and find meaning in a pointless, shallow culture. When the small things matter and when you find meaning in a hobby, pursuit, relationship or something that doesn't involve spending huge sums of money, supporting a "brand", anything to do with media, or a corporate cult, you're heading in the right direction in life.
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 2, 2016 12:36:44 GMT
That's a really good read. It ties in with a lot of things I've read in the past and makes a lot of sense. We have to find a way to turn our backs on the stupidly of modern society and find meaning in a pointless, shallow culture. When the small things matter and when you find meaning in a hobby, pursuit, relationship or something that doesn't involve spending huge sums of money, supporting a "brand", anything to do with media, or a corporate cult, you're heading in the right direction in life. Interesting post and 100% correct but hard to reconcile that with following a football club maybe??
I certainly wont buy into facebook, apple and the like. And id be damned to pay £400 for a jumper even if I had that sort of cash.
I think we are in a spiritual crisis and I think its deliberately created by TPTB to keep us in a state of constant anxiety, constantly consuming, constantly aware of mortality. And they say they abolished slavery??! The human race has never been in more bondage than it is today! And best of all for the cunts at the top of the pyramid, we accepted it all without question!
Just getting in the country for a couple of hours is so therapeutic; I just wish I could do it more. Not driving means its difficult. These habitats of concrete, steel & plastic are not what we were designed for. We all need to reconnect more with the natural world, stop seeing it as just another product to consume.
I agree with most of this clip apart from the last line
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 2, 2016 14:40:16 GMT
Well that was helpful, Not!
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 2, 2016 14:44:23 GMT
I might be able to do without the sauce, if I didn't have to tolerate so many cnuts in the world(myself included)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 15:21:40 GMT
I might be able to do without the sauce, if I didn't have to tolerate so many cnuts in the world(myself included) I only drank 1 bottle of wine a week and I can tell you now, after careful monitoring, you'd be surprised at how even that small amount it affects your life days later compared to no alcohol i do miss my glass of wine while relaxing but, 6months on I feel and act far better without it.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 2, 2016 16:34:43 GMT
I might be able to do without the sauce, if I didn't have to tolerate so many cnuts in the world(myself included) I only drank 1 bottle of wine a week and I can tell you now, after careful monitoring, you'd be surprised at how even that small amount it affects your life days later compared to no alcohol i do miss my glass of wine while relaxing but, 6months on I feel and act far better without it. ...but what did you replace it with!? I tried doing more sports in the evening but the team go to the pub after training and they have buy one get one free on ice cold lager. What's a lad to do?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 16:42:07 GMT
I only drank 1 bottle of wine a week and I can tell you now, after careful monitoring, you'd be surprised at how even that small amount it affects your life days later compared to no alcohol i do miss my glass of wine while relaxing but, 6months on I feel and act far better without it. ...but what did you replace it with!? I tried doing more sports in the evening but the team go to the pub after training and they have buy one get one free on ice cold lager. What's a lad to do? Personally I replaced with......Water, nettle tea, unsweetened almond milk, chicory root, warm water and a slice of lemon But you or anyone else could replaye it with anything none alcoholic easily enough
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 2, 2016 18:52:37 GMT
I didn't actually replace it as such, that just confirmed mentally that you were in fact missing something. I just tried not to continually think about the booze. Post hockey matches was painful. All the usual lot doing the drinking that you were always involved with. But the friends were good about the whole thing and just asked what I wanted and the fact that it was a coke or OJ or whatever was never questioned at all. Gradually it became the norm and strangely enough, a habit in itself. Gradually though it becomes irrelevant and no longer an issue. Genuinely feel better for it and no more epileptic seizures. Got to be worth it I'd say.
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 10, 2016 15:42:51 GMT
Bumping in preparation for the new misery campaign, I mean season LOL
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 10, 2016 21:13:31 GMT
Bumping in preparation for the new misery campaign, I mean season LOL Hopefully this will be the season to brighten a lot of horizons. Not supporting isn't an option. This is Stoke for crying out loud, we're allowed our fair share of knocks and balloons burst, I've managed to modify my disappointment to some gnashing of teeth and annoyance but there it ends. A few more years aint going to make much difference now.
Bring it on.
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 10, 2016 22:00:33 GMT
Bumping in preparation for the new misery campaign, I mean season LOL Those with depression will find enthusiasm for footie dropping off dispute the result, although negative outcomes won't help
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 12, 2016 22:14:01 GMT
Bumping in preparation for the new misery campaign, I mean season LOL Those with depression will find enthusiasm for footie dropping off dispute the result, although negative outcomes won't help Real depression you find yourself losing interest in everything you used to love whether it be football, music or movies
Some folk (Not you I hasten to add Bath)don't realise that there is a HUGE difference in being a bit down in the dumps and actually being really depressed Its not something someone would ever choose as a lifestyle or to get out of working. True depression is 100% misery 100% of the time - Or being an Alex fan
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 12, 2016 22:41:57 GMT
Those with depression will find enthusiasm for footie dropping off dispute the result, although negative outcomes won't help Real depression you find yourself losing interest in everything you used to love whether it be football, music or movies
Some folk (Not you I hasten to add Bath)don't realise that there is a HUGE difference in being a bit down in the dumps and actually being really depressed Its not something someone would ever choose as a lifestyle or to get out of working. True depression is 100% misery 100% of the time - Or being an Alex fan
Can't disagree with any of that statement sir.
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 13, 2016 14:21:17 GMT
13/08/2016
3.11pm
It begins.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 13, 2016 15:29:30 GMT
13/08/2016 3.11pm It begins. 14.29 pm Happier now.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 13, 2016 15:30:02 GMT
13/08/2016 3.11pm It begins. 14.29 pm Happier now. Make that 16.29
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 13, 2016 15:33:47 GMT
Theres still quarter of an hour...
Would take the final whistle now based on first half:
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 13, 2016 15:34:37 GMT
Btw we've all lost 2 hours somewhere LOL
I feel like Ive lost the past 20 years??!!??
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 13, 2016 15:38:37 GMT
Btw we've all lost 2 hours somewhere LOL I feel like Ive lost the past 20 years??!!?? I'm down south at the moment relying on snippets of info on the game,this forum included, now THAT'S depressing. lol!!
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Post by 36dd on Aug 14, 2016 14:19:57 GMT
Those with depression will find enthusiasm for footie dropping off dispute the result, although negative outcomes won't help Real depression you find yourself losing interest in everything you used to love whether it be football, music or movies
Some folk (Not you I hasten to add Bath)don't realise that there is a HUGE difference in being a bit down in the dumps and actually being really depressed Its not something someone would ever choose as a lifestyle or to get out of working. True depression is 100% misery 100% of the time - Or being an Alex fan
I'm currently at that stage now, I've suffered with depression & it appears to reared its ugly head once again. I've lost interest in all enjoyable pastimes such as footie, going out with mates & even the lack of being interested in exercising. I decided back in Jan to take the plunge & go self employed as. Personal Trainer. With the added stress of having to support a family my emotions are taking over where I'm losing interest in all things I usually enjoy.
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 14, 2016 15:15:19 GMT
Real depression you find yourself losing interest in everything you used to love whether it be football, music or movies
Some folk (Not you I hasten to add Bath)don't realise that there is a HUGE difference in being a bit down in the dumps and actually being really depressed Its not something someone would ever choose as a lifestyle or to get out of working. True depression is 100% misery 100% of the time - Or being an Alex fan
I'm currently at that stage now, I've suffered with depression & it appears to reared its ugly head once again. I've lost interest in all enjoyable pastimes such as footie, going out with mates & even the lack of being interested in exercising. I decided back in Jan to take the plunge & go self employed as. Personal Trainer. With the added stress of having to support a family my emotions are taking over where I'm losing interest in all things I usually enjoy. Methinks with Depression that once you have it, it never truly leaves you
Don't know if you've noticed it but the more dim folks are, the less they seem to get depressed!! The more you think about things, the more analytical you are it seems to get worse. The scumbags you see hanging around the bus stations etc genuinely don't seem all that bothered by their lot, some even embrace it.
Would you perhaps be better not self employed, with say having the security of being employed and regular wages?? Might be worth thinking about??
Don't forget the option of antidepressants; there is often a stigma but even if they just take the edge off its worth it. Also treasure the family, sounds obvious but we are often blind to what is right in front of our eyes.
Going out with mates, I can relate to, that's where women have a HUGE advantage in the way they talk to and support one another. With blokes, its usually "pull yourself together, man"
I remember well, only 2 days after my mum's funeral (and I was really in bits, still am frankly) a so called friend told me, exact words, "to get over it now". I should have really dropped him there & then but that just isn't in my nature. Sometimes mates are better avoided. I have a theory that most men don't havereal friends, they have 'drinking companions' so they aren't billy no mates standing at the bar. Most mates will stab you in the back if it suits their agenda. You only have to look at some of the cuntish behaviour on here, not so much on the EE board but the main footie board, borderline sociopaths some (not all) of them
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 14, 2016 16:00:46 GMT
I'm currently at that stage now, I've suffered with depression & it appears to reared its ugly head once again. I've lost interest in all enjoyable pastimes such as footie, going out with mates & even the lack of being interested in exercising. I decided back in Jan to take the plunge & go self employed as. Personal Trainer. With the added stress of having to support a family my emotions are taking over where I'm losing interest in all things I usually enjoy. Methinks with Depression that once you have it, it never truly leaves you
Don't know if you've noticed it but the more dim folks are, the less they seem to get depressed!! The more you think about things, the more analytical you are it seems to get worse. The scumbags you see hanging around the bus stations etc genuinely don't seem all that bothered by their lot, some even embrace it.
Would you perhaps be better not self employed, with say having the security of being employed and regular wages?? Might be worth thinking about??
Don't forget the option of antidepressants; there is often a stigma but even if they just take the edge off its worth it. Also treasure the family, sounds obvious but we are often blind to what is right in front of our eyes.
Going out with mates, I can relate to, that's where women have a HUGE advantage in the way they talk to and support one another. With blokes, its usually "pull yourself together, man"
I remember well, only 2 days after my mum's funeral (and I was really in bits, still am frankly) a so called friend told me, exact words, "to get over it now". I should have really dropped him there & then but that just isn't in my nature. Sometimes mates are better avoided. I have a theory that most men don't havereal friends, they have 'drinking companions' so they aren't billy no mates standing at the bar. Most mates will stab you in the back if it suits their agenda. You only have to look at some of the cuntish behaviour on here, not so much on the EE board but the main footie board, borderline sociopaths some (not all) of them
Your last paragraph Trent is so accurate it's scary. I've literally just returned from a 2 day trip to Bedfordshire to collect some belongings. I met up with one particularly close lady friend and the conversation was so completely easy, free and uncomplicated for both of us. No way would the topics discussed have been possible with any of my so called male friends. As I've probably eluded to previously, finding the EE board in itself has been of help. All the other things still need to be addressed but any form of open discussion I have found to be of help. Including this place. Believe me when I say that I have genuinely smiled and laughed many a time at the wit and humour going on here.
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Post by 36dd on Aug 14, 2016 16:12:40 GMT
I'm currently at that stage now, I've suffered with depression & it appears to reared its ugly head once again. I've lost interest in all enjoyable pastimes such as footie, going out with mates & even the lack of being interested in exercising. I decided back in Jan to take the plunge & go self employed as. Personal Trainer. With the added stress of having to support a family my emotions are taking over where I'm losing interest in all things I usually enjoy. Methinks with Depression that once you have it, it never truly leaves you
Don't know if you've noticed it but the more dim folks are, the less they seem to get depressed!! The more you think about things, the more analytical you are it seems to get worse. The scumbags you see hanging around the bus stations etc genuinely don't seem all that bothered by their lot, some even embrace it.
Would you perhaps be better not self employed, with say having the security of being employed and regular wages?? Might be worth thinking about??
Don't forget the option of antidepressants; there is often a stigma but even if they just take the edge off its worth it. Also treasure the family, sounds obvious but we are often blind to what is right in front of our eyes.
Going out with mates, I can relate to, that's where women have a HUGE advantage in the way they talk to and support one another. With blokes, its usually "pull yourself together, man"
I remember well, only 2 days after my mum's funeral (and I was really in bits, still am frankly) a so called friend told me, exact words, "to get over it now". I should have really dropped him there & then but that just isn't in my nature. Sometimes mates are better avoided. I have a theory that most men don't havereal friends, they have 'drinking companions' so they aren't billy no mates standing at the bar. Most mates will stab you in the back if it suits their agenda. You only have to look at some of the cuntish behaviour on here, not so much on the EE board but the main footie board, borderline sociopaths some (not all) of them
Over the last week or so I have been debating whether to go back the doctors? I easily get emotional at times but my ego gets the better of me in relation to laying problems on them. To me and I know this is the wrong thing to say but I see it as a weakness. With regards to employment there maybe a window to go back to a regular wage still in the industry that I do have a passion for. I did work hard to get to this stage but as mentioned before the added pressure is getting to me.
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