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Post by harryburrows on Jul 19, 2017 19:26:49 GMT
Ok I guess I need to do my homework billy It might be better to let nature take it's course Harry. If Hughes doesn't get his shit together this season
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 19:37:22 GMT
I'm struggling of late.
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Post by potterinleeds on Jul 19, 2017 20:17:53 GMT
What a cock his father sounds I'd call you his dad mate as you seem to care more for the lad than that fuck monkey who sired him. His dad is ill. But all the mental health assessments have said he was fine (my wife had to get a restraining order out against him) He obviously isnt if he can do this to his son. I'm sorry to hear about your ongoing situation, jimi - as you hadn't posted on here for a while, I had hoped it might be improving. Like matador says, you seem to be giving him all the support he should be getting off his father. None of us can choose our family, unfortunately, but he sounds like he's fallen on his feet with you. I know it's easy for me to say, but just keep at it.
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Post by robstokie on Jul 19, 2017 20:29:46 GMT
Same here to be honest mate. Are you Ok otherwise though?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 21:18:23 GMT
I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix called The Minimalists. They're two American blokes who started this phenomenon of decluttering their lives.
It's all down to individual perception I suppose but it certainly gave me a lot of perspective on what's important in life. I still maintain exercise is the best medicine you can get.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 21:24:06 GMT
Same here to be honest mate. Are you Ok otherwise though? Ye I've been much worse in the past. Currently struggling to financially support myself, though I have the support of family when it's needed so that makes me very fortunate. I'm on a waiting list to get diagnosed for Asperger's Syndrome but the organisation receives very little funding. I was actually referred to them by an NHS counsellor who also had Asperger's. He felt it was likely I had gone undiagnosed as a child and it was possibly causing a lot of my struggles in adult life. (I'm about to turn 28) He also felt I might have ADHD. I'm not sure if this organisation can diagnose that. I was actually ready to be diagnosed about 18 months ago but I'm very prone to just completely forgetting things that are vitally important, such as responding to letters and whatnot...which in hindsight is a fuckup because I could be in a position right now where I'm getting some sort of state support rather than a position where I'm about to go broke, which is obviously not helping my mental-health and self-esteem. What's your situation mate?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 21:28:35 GMT
I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix called The Minimalists. They're two American blokes who started this phenomenon of decluttering their lives. It's all down to individual perception I suppose but it certainly gave me a lot of perspective on what's important in life. I still maintain exercise is the best medicine you can get. I'll watch this tonight. Generally though we're lucky to have the NHS in this country because it helps limit the sort of pill-happy culture you see across the pond. Exercise and nutrition are the foundations to health and happiness and should always be the first response to mental-issues, whenever possible.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 19, 2017 21:41:06 GMT
To sprinkle some positivity onto proceedings, I'm now 99% back to my old self after a shite spell with stress and anxiety over Christmas and early spring time, there is a light at the end of the tunnel gentlemen, just don't be disheartened if the tunnel is a bit longer than you'd like it to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 23:19:43 GMT
I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix called The Minimalists. They're two American blokes who started this phenomenon of decluttering their lives. It's all down to individual perception I suppose but it certainly gave me a lot of perspective on what's important in life. I still maintain exercise is the best medicine you can get. I'll watch this tonight. Generally though we're lucky to have the NHS in this country because it helps limit the sort of pill-happy culture you see across the pond. Exercise and nutrition are the foundations to health and happiness and should always be the first response to mental-issues, whenever possible. Let me know how you get on with it. Totally agree with everything you said about health and you have to know your body's limits.
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 19, 2017 23:57:07 GMT
There is a social pressure on men to get married and have kids. It's fucking insane. I reckon most gents suffer from depression from either a divorce or single parent paying for kids.
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Post by flea79 on Jul 20, 2017 8:04:11 GMT
I go through some very dark periods. It is not nice, I can tell you! My father was the same! My dad suffered from depression as well , I often wonder if it's hereditary pretty much my thoughts I was adopted but I am aware that both of my so called biological mothers brothers killed themselves in the mid to late 20's, they had horrendous drug issues which didn't help, im getting the help now seeing as im that age bracket (late 20's)
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Post by robstokie on Jul 20, 2017 11:08:58 GMT
Same here to be honest mate. Are you Ok otherwise though? Ye I've been much worse in the past. Currently struggling to financially support myself, though I have the support of family when it's needed so that makes me very fortunate. I'm on a waiting list to get diagnosed for Asperger's Syndrome but the organisation receives very little funding. I was actually referred to them by an NHS counsellor who also had Asperger's. He felt it was likely I had gone undiagnosed as a child and it was possibly causing a lot of my struggles in adult life. (I'm about to turn 28) He also felt I might have ADHD. I'm not sure if this organisation can diagnose that. I was actually ready to be diagnosed about 18 months ago but I'm very prone to just completely forgetting things that are vitally important, such as responding to letters and whatnot...which in hindsight is a fuckup because I could be in a position right now where I'm getting some sort of state support rather than a position where I'm about to go broke, which is obviously not helping my mental-health and self-esteem. What's your situation mate? No Jobs out there, drinking every night to block out the boredom/fear there's nowt out there for me. It's a vicious cycle, drink allows me to escape but it all goes back to square one in the morning. I've got ADHD myself, which partly explains why I fucked school up, but isn't exactly great to have alongside depressive bouts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 11:39:40 GMT
No Jobs out there, drinking every night to block out the boredom/fear there's nowt out there for me. It's a vicious cycle, drink allows me to escape but it all goes back to square one in the morning. I've got ADHD myself, which partly explains why I fucked school up, but isn't exactly great to have alongside depressive bouts. Ive been applying for jobs. The difference is, I've been trying to avoid clear dead-end warehouse type jobs and aim a bit higher, more career based opportunities or with companies that pay better. I know if I take another road to nowhere it'll grind me down and I'll just end up bored and unable to hack it. I've done a lot of menial work in the past and it's always resulted in the work becoming a contributory factor to my illnesses, rather than the a source of motivation and pride that a great job could be. I've also been suffering from the greatest levels of rejection I've ever experienced when searching for work. My CV is fairly appalling so it seems that the only jobs I can get are the ones that very few want. Another terrible job may be my only option. It's interesting you use the word fear. Care to elaborate on that? For me, in my early-mid twenties, when I was fucking up or going nowhere it was always balanced with a sincere belief that I'd just somehow figure out my path or passion. Now as the years are ticking and I remain rooted at square 0 that belief is fading rapidly. Fear is the exact word to describe what the loss of that belief is inducing in me.
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Post by robstokie on Jul 20, 2017 12:12:17 GMT
No Jobs out there, drinking every night to block out the boredom/fear there's nowt out there for me. It's a vicious cycle, drink allows me to escape but it all goes back to square one in the morning. I've got ADHD myself, which partly explains why I fucked school up, but isn't exactly great to have alongside depressive bouts. Ive been applying for jobs. The difference is, I've been trying to avoid clear dead-end warehouse type jobs and aim a bit higher, more career based opportunities or with companies that pay better. I know if I take another road to nowhere it'll grind me down and I'll just end up bored and unable to hack it. I've done a lot of menial work in the past and it's always resulted in the work becoming a contributory factor to my illnesses, rather than the a source of motivation and pride that a great job could be. I've also been suffering from the greatest levels of rejection I've ever experienced when searching for work. My CV is fairly appalling so it seems that the only jobs I can get are the ones that very few want. Another terrible job may be my only option. It's interesting you use the word fear. Care to elaborate on that? For me, in my early-mid twenties, when I was fucking up or going nowhere it was always balanced with a sincere belief that I'd just somehow figure out my path or passion. Now as the years are ticking and I remain rooted at square 0 that belief is fading rapidly. Fear is the exact word to describe what the loss of that belief is inducing in me. Sounds exactly like my story. For me, My fear is that I'll continue to live like this and never be able to get a decent job. It seems that most people just walk into jobs but I can't. My CV is not great either and the continual rejection from employer after employer makes me feel about as worthwhile as a piece of shit on the pavement. In summary, I feel like an absolute joke of a human being, and am struggling to even try any more because it's pointless and will undoubtedly end in failure.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 20, 2017 19:23:39 GMT
Anti-depressants have their uses but expect your 'drive' to take a bit of a hit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 19:35:32 GMT
I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix called The Minimalists. They're two American blokes who started this phenomenon of decluttering their lives. It's all down to individual perception I suppose but it certainly gave me a lot of perspective on what's important in life. I still maintain exercise is the best medicine you can get. Diet and exercise should be the first port of call for anyone serious about fixing the problem ....imo
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Post by Sir Stafford on Jul 21, 2017 0:09:37 GMT
Hi everyone, I'm a mental health nurse and suffer ocd, anxiety and depression the latter being a product of the ocd - intrusive thoughts and the anxiety that goes with it. Its great that people are talking about issues such as these on here. I continue to take meds and have had CBT therapy.Some days are better than others but I wont let it beat me. I have recently set up a mental health wellbeing footy team in Walsall where I used to live and agree that exercise is key and really does help. No one is immune from mental illness and trust me manning up does not work I tried that many times before.
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Post by rat on Jul 21, 2017 3:28:06 GMT
I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix called The Minimalists. They're two American blokes who started this phenomenon of decluttering their lives. It's all down to individual perception I suppose but it certainly gave me a lot of perspective on what's important in life. I still maintain exercise is the best medicine you can get. Diet and exercise should be the first port of call for anyone serious about fixing the problem ....imo Here we fucking go, Fraiser pops up on the depression thread offering his usual shitty dietary advice, advocating health for all after annihilating my missus and accusing me of the usual multiple account bullshit on the other thread. What an almighty and confused weapon you truly are Fraise and a plastic one at that You shouldn't be offering advice anywhere near a mental health thread pal. You may have sorted your waistline out but its the other stuff where you are stuck at 'toddler' level. If you're still a nasty cunt after losing all that weight, you're still basically a nasty cunt. Anyway, good luck with it all, life's a journey and besides it's all over in the blink of an eye kid. You can choose to be happy, it's just a choice.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 6:30:10 GMT
Anyone suffering with depression should at least have a go at diet and fitness lifestyle change together
You may well find a big difference in your mindset......or, if not, you will definitely get healthier
So it's a winner imo
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Post by potterinleeds on Jul 21, 2017 7:22:14 GMT
My dad suffered from depression as well , I often wonder if it's hereditary pretty much my thoughts I was adopted but I am aware that both of my so called biological mothers brothers killed themselves in the mid to late 20's, they had horrendous drug issues which didn't help, im getting the help now seeing as im that age bracket (late 20's) Forewarned is forearmed, flea - you're doing the right thing being pro-active. I'd agree about family history - it's only since I've reached my late 40s and properly dealt with my depression rather than trying to ignore it, that I can begin to see the same patterns of behaviour in older family members. I'm fully aware that one of my children might suffer from the same kind of thing as they grow up, but as I say, forewarned is forearmed. Hope it works out
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Post by flea79 on Jul 21, 2017 8:25:09 GMT
just seen the lead singer of Linkin Park took his life yesterday, really sad as the music these guys made was huge for me in my teens, and still is I guess
he ended it on the date of birth of the late Chris Cornell, they were good friends apparently
sad times
please anybody out there with issues get help or just message somebody on this thread and talk
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Post by salopstick on Jul 21, 2017 9:07:03 GMT
I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix called The Minimalists. They're two American blokes who started this phenomenon of decluttering their lives. It's all down to individual perception I suppose but it certainly gave me a lot of perspective on what's important in life. I still maintain exercise is the best medicine you can get. Diet and exercise should be the first port of call for anyone serious about fixing the problem ....imo You are right about exercise Feel good chemicals for want of a better word are released by your body when you exercise. Going out for a run, walk or whatever will take your mind of other issues, give you something to look forward too, make you healthier in body. The more you do the more you enjoy it so the better you will feel. It doesn't solve everything but it's a start
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 9:21:43 GMT
Diet and exercise should be the first port of call for anyone serious about fixing the problem ....imo You are right about exercise Feel good chemicals for want of a better word are released by your body when you exercise. Going out for a run, walk or whatever will take your mind of other issues, give you something to look forward too, make you healthier in body. The more you do the more you enjoy it so the better you will feel. It doesn't solve everything but it's a start Endorphins I'm right about diet too ....especially lowering sugar intake. most people resist this as it's like tellling lifelong smokers stop smoking Every excuse in the book Exercise and diet (eating healthily) together are a far more potent force
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 9:34:17 GMT
I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix called The Minimalists. They're two American blokes who started this phenomenon of decluttering their lives. It's all down to individual perception I suppose but it certainly gave me a lot of perspective on what's important in life. I still maintain exercise is the best medicine you can get. Great recommendation mate. I think the vast majority of us are aware on some sort of level that there's a deep-rooted sickness in strong capitalist societies. The themes they explored weren't groundbreaking but it was important to hear what would've been considered "successful" people exploring and conceptualising how the meaning of success has been warped and deformed by a consumer driven society, and how they fell victims to, and then broke free from, this deeply ingrained system of deceit and misinformation. The quote from Jim Carrey summed it up perfectly. "I wish everybody could be rich and famous so that they'd realise it isn't the answer." It's very easy to get wrapped up in what other people are doing and to compare yourself to them and then allow that to affect your self-esteem. I suppose you just have to realise that it's your life so you need to carve out your own path to happiness and not allow societal norms and values to direct you towards a life that isn't the one you truly want to be living. It was also good that both Sam Harris and Dan Harris spoke about meditation. This is something I've dabbled with in the past, in fact, at one point I had actually managed to attain a level of consistency whereby I believe I'd started to notice small positive changes. Studies have shown that the practise actually causes physiological changes in the brain such as a reduction in size in the centres associated with stress and anxiety. The results of mediation are so subtle in the short/medium-term that it's easy to stop a habit. Considering I reached a point where I was noticing results, it should really serve as motivation to start up again and to stick with it. I think Sam Harris (who I love btw) summed it up well when he said something like "meditation is the practise of finding happiness and contentedness in the presence of just your thoughts". I butchered that quote but you get the point. I have to admit that I definitely fall into the category of someone who is surrounded by needless distractions, and somebody who is constantly using external stimuli to distract myself from the things in life that are truly important. It's almost like we live in a society full of tools that allow us to distance ourselves from ourselves. It's pretty fucked up and clearly contributes to the rising levels of mental-health disorders we're seeing in the world (not that people are entirely to blame for this) but most likely contributes to a bunch of other problems in society. We have the power to break free from these traps and shackles and this film shows that there is another way. It was a really great documentary and it's put a few small ideas in my head about the directions I wish to take moving into the future. I'll definitely re-watch at some point and I highly recommend others to do so. On a final note however, that "I'm a hugger" stuff would get you instantly labelled a weirdo in England.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 10:15:00 GMT
I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I would recommend the documentary on Netflix called The Minimalists. They're two American blokes who started this phenomenon of decluttering their lives. It's all down to individual perception I suppose but it certainly gave me a lot of perspective on what's important in life. I still maintain exercise is the best medicine you can get. Great recommendation mate. I think the vast majority of us are aware on some sort of level that there's a deep-rooted sickness in strong capitalist societies. The themes they explored weren't groundbreaking but it was important to hear what would've been considered "successful" people exploring and conceptualising how the meaning of success has been warped and deformed by a consumer driven society, and how they fell victims to, and then broke free from, this deeply ingrained system of deceit and misinformation. The quote from Jim Carrey summed it up perfectly. "I wish everybody could be rich and famous so that they'd realise it isn't the answer." It's very easy to get wrapped up in what other people are doing and to compare yourself to them and then allow that to affect your self-esteem. I suppose you just have to realise that it's your life so you need to carve out your own path to happiness and not allow societal norms and values to direct you towards a life that isn't the one you truly want to be living. It was also good that both Sam Harris and Dan Harris spoke about meditation. This is something I've dabbled with in the past, in fact, at one point I had actually managed to attain a level of consistency whereby I believe I'd started to notice small positive changes. Studies have shown that the practise actually causes physiological changes in the brain such as a reduction in size in the centres associated with stress and anxiety. The results of mediation are so subtle in the short/medium-term that it's easy to stop a habit. Considering I reached a point where I was noticing results, it should really serve as motivation to start up again and to stick with it. I think Sam Harris (who I love btw) summed it up well when he said something like "meditation is the practise of finding happiness and contentedness in the presence of just your thoughts". I butchered that quote but you get the point. I have to admit that I definitely fall into the category of someone who is surrounded by needless distractions, and somebody who is constantly using external stimuli to distract myself from the things in life that are truly important. It's almost like we live in a society full of tools that allow us to distance ourselves from ourselves. It's pretty fucked up and clearly contributes to the rising levels of mental-health disorders we're seeing in the world (not that people are entirely to blame for this) but most likely contributes to a bunch of other problems in society. We have the power to break free from these traps and shackles and this film shows that there is another way. It was a really great documentary and it's put a few small ideas in my head about the directions I wish to take moving into the future. I'll definitely re-watch at some point and I highly recommend others to do so. On a final note however, that "I'm a hugger" stuff would get you instantly labelled a weirdo in England. Glad you enjoyed it and I think you've definitely 'got it'. Most people I've tried to explain it seem to think they're saying get rid of all your possessions and you'll be happy but it's far from it. I love the concept everyone has their own minimum. You are right about all the effects from society. In an ideal world, I'd like to get rid of my social media accounts but at the moment they're important for keeping in touch with uni pals. It's given me other ideas too, mainly with clothes. I'm 23 and I'm so done with being fashion conscious, at the end of the summer I fully intend to get rid of most of my clothes. I've got endless amount of shit I don't wear, what's the point? I think if you concentrate on yourself you can lead a very simple and happier life. Identify what makes you happy - I imagine most on here wouldn't need much more in life than their mates, family, a few beers at the weekend and SCFC. If you respect yourself it's a lot easier to respect other people and for them to respect you. And yeah, definitely not a hugger.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 11:30:45 GMT
Most people I've tried to explain it seem to think they're saying get rid of all your possessions and you'll be happy but it's far from it. I love the concept everyone has their own minimum. Yes it's more about honestly assessing what effect your items have on you. It's not saying you should get rid of everything and become a monk. You could, for example, look at your big-screen tv and netflix subscription and honestly conclude that it brings value to your life because you love to relax on a Friday night with netflix as a reward for a hard week or work. There's nothing wrong with that. If however you're calling in sick so you can stay at home to watch netflix, then it becomes a problem. Btw, on the subject of exercise, I was feeling like shit and super anxious all morning yesterday. I had a letter to deliver to an organisation in Hartshill so rather than drive from Boothen I decided to instead walk. It was torture for the first 10 mins as I felt super self-conscious every time I had to walk past people, or if a car drove past etc, but then I relaxed for no apparent reason and started to enjoy looking at buildings and architecture I'd never had the chance to notice before. I've been hearing theories that just the act of breathing during exercise (even relatively light exercise) helps to reduce inflammation and calm us down. It certainly worked for me, and I know that when I was practising meditation, being able to focus on my breathing in situations where I felt elevated anxiety started to become a big help. Meditation not only gives us a tool for achieving mindfulness, but it also makes us more tuned in to how we're feeling which in turn allows us to recognise patterns of stress and anxiety which serves as an early warning system to take appropriate action. I'm going to restart the habit today and I highly recommend others who are struggling to look into it.
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Post by rat on Jul 21, 2017 11:44:38 GMT
Anybody struggling with depression, anxiety etc can find help here. These guys have had a lot of success over the years. www.changes.org.uk
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Post by Northy on Jul 26, 2017 15:06:31 GMT
found out last night that one of our old runners son hung himself last week, 26 and not long moved in with his girlfriend, nothing shown before but dad is on tablets for depression and running for feel good factor
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Post by borat on Jul 27, 2017 12:16:31 GMT
Lead singer of linkin park hung himself the other day such a shame.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 2, 2017 23:32:35 GMT
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