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Post by followyoudown on Oct 7, 2015 10:58:53 GMT
fair play if he turns out to be decent smacks of 'cheap' though To be fair there's not much point them spending too much on a manager as they'll only need a new one in six months time On a serious note I think Sunderland are gone this season like Wigan before them I think their luck has finally run out.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 7, 2015 11:13:22 GMT
I know very little about him, but his record is surprisingly good.
I think the whole 'big name manager' is always risky for a club like Sunderland anyway. Bottom of the table, shit squad, no motivation and no money to spend. Look at the way Poyet and Di Canio went down? Big names in fancy suits and both failed miserably. Both cut from the same loin cloth in reality, jumped around eccentrically, while seemingly incapable of managing their squad, despite being both great players, it's no surprise that they nose dived at all really.
A manager like Bob Bradley might actually be a good thing for Sunderland. No professional career. He's worked with plenty of shit players in the past, he will know how to motivate them, play to their strengths he won't demand a huge wage and I imagine would be completely focussed on the football.
For those of you who think I'm being sarcastic, I'm genuinely not.
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Post by slother on Oct 7, 2015 11:22:56 GMT
I think it'll be an unmitigated disaster. Talent or no, Americans take hard work and professionalism for granted. Sunderland's record in these areas is reportedly appalling. A week into the job he'll be looking for a way out.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 7, 2015 11:31:18 GMT
I think it'll be an unmitigated disaster. Talent or no, Americans take hard work and professionalism for granted. Sunderland's record in these areas is reportedly appalling. A week into the job he'll be looking for a way out. Precisely. Bradley will have them running 20 laps round the pitch etc. He's the kind of manager they need.
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Post by slother on Oct 7, 2015 11:35:40 GMT
I think it'll be an unmitigated disaster. Talent or no, Americans take hard work and professionalism for granted. Sunderland's record in these areas is reportedly appalling. A week into the job he'll be looking for a way out. Precisely. Bradley will have them running 20 laps round the pitch etc. He's the kind of manager they need. The culture is apparently endemic at Sunderland. They need a manager who will command respect and a willingness to follow from the outset. I don't think an American with zero Premier League experience is the right appointment at all.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 7, 2015 11:51:08 GMT
If they're serious about staying up they should've chucked some money at Allardyce.
This looks like another make do and mend and is asking a huge amount of a bloke who's never managed in a top league before.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 7, 2015 13:52:00 GMT
Precisely. Bradley will have them running 20 laps round the pitch etc. He's the kind of manager they need. The culture is apparently endemic at Sunderland. They need a manager who will command respect and a willingness to follow from the outset. I don't think an American with zero Premier League experience is the right appointment at all. Since when was 'experience' required to be a good Premiership manager? It's all about being a good manager in general. Ferguson, Mourinho? They didn't have Premiership experience, they were good managers before being given a chance. Bob Bradley appears to be a very solid manager from his record. There are few unemployed managers out there who are very desirable. I think Bob Bradley would be quite a good choice.
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Post by lordb on Oct 7, 2015 14:02:12 GMT
The culture is apparently endemic at Sunderland. They need a manager who will command respect and a willingness to follow from the outset. I don't think an American with zero Premier League experience is the right appointment at all. Since when was 'experience' required to be a good Premiership manager? It's all about being a good manager in general. Ferguson, Mourinho? They didn't have Premiership experience, they were good managers before being given a chance. Bob Bradley appears to be a very solid manager from his record. There are few unemployed managers out there who are very desirable. I think Bob Bradley would be quite a good choice. It took Fergie years to beome good in the premier league Very lucky not to be sacked after the first few seasons of failure/bad signings e.t.c. Jose & Wenger stand out as exceptions
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Post by slother on Oct 7, 2015 16:00:36 GMT
The culture is apparently endemic at Sunderland. They need a manager who will command respect and a willingness to follow from the outset. I don't think an American with zero Premier League experience is the right appointment at all. Since when was 'experience' required to be a good Premiership manager? It's all about being a good manager in general. Ferguson, Mourinho? They didn't have Premiership experience, they were good managers before being given a chance. Bob Bradley appears to be a very solid manager from his record. There are few unemployed managers out there who are very desirable. I think Bob Bradley would be quite a good choice. I'm not saying you need experience to be a good PL manager. But I think without having any PL experience a Sunderland squad with a shitty attitude will find it easier to be dismissive of and not "buy in" to Bradley. To their cost, he seems a good guy.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 7, 2015 16:09:41 GMT
Since when was 'experience' required to be a good Premiership manager? It's all about being a good manager in general. Ferguson, Mourinho? They didn't have Premiership experience, they were good managers before being given a chance. Bob Bradley appears to be a very solid manager from his record. There are few unemployed managers out there who are very desirable. I think Bob Bradley would be quite a good choice. I'm not saying you need experience to be a good PL manager. But I think without having any PL experience a Sunderland squad with a shitty attitude will find it easier to be dismissive of and not "buy in" to Bradley. To their cost, he seems a good guy. Spot on. To be parachuted into that job with that squad you've got to command instant respect and get the players to buy into your methods straight away. That's a big ask of a manager with his credentials.
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Post by Kewstokie on Oct 7, 2015 16:43:19 GMT
Whoever gets the job will be sacked in March with a new messiah appointed to get them away from relegation. That's been Sunderland's modus operandi for years.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Oct 7, 2015 17:01:43 GMT
Can't believe they didn't go for Big Sam.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Oct 8, 2015 4:33:47 GMT
Lack of experience is a given with Bradley, but saying that he will take hard work and professionalism for granted is like saying pulis or allardyce take hard work for granted. Bradley is in the same mould as those two. He picks his players based on fight more than flair and expects them to run their arses off. He's the type of coach that will get lots of boring 0-0 results, with the occasional smash and grab. and I'm pretty sure he hasn't smiled in over a decade. I'd be surprised if he was actually being offered the Sunderland job, with the level he is currently coaching it'd be like going from cashier to CEO.
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Post by haway on Oct 8, 2015 8:01:18 GMT
I know very little about him, but his record is surprisingly good. I think the whole 'big name manager' is always risky for a club like Sunderland anyway. Bottom of the table, shit squad, no motivation and no money to spend. Look at the way Poyet and Di Canio went down? Big names in fancy suits and both failed miserably. Both cut from the same loin cloth in reality, jumped around eccentrically, while seemingly incapable of managing their squad, despite being both great players, it's no surprise that they nose dived at all really. A manager like Bob Bradley might actually be a good thing for Sunderland. No professional career. He's worked with plenty of shit players in the past, he will know how to motivate them, play to their strengths he won't demand a huge wage and I imagine would be completely focussed on the football. For those of you who think I'm being sarcastic, I'm genuinely not. 2nd bottom actually!
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Post by haway on Oct 8, 2015 8:01:56 GMT
Can't believe they didn't go for Big Sam. We have, don't believe the media like the daily mirror. Most journalists writing those are Newcastle fans
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Post by haway on Oct 8, 2015 8:02:18 GMT
Whoever gets the job will be sacked in March with a new messiah appointed to get them away from relegation. That's been Sunderland's modus operandi for years. If the cycle works, don't fix it...
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Post by metalhead on Oct 8, 2015 8:10:53 GMT
Looks like big Sam might be on the cards. Good choice imo.
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Post by Gods on Oct 8, 2015 8:12:53 GMT
Must admit I have never heard of Bob Bradley but by the look of his picture he is bald as a coot.
I don't think Sunderland are going down and I know they are not if they hire Sam Allardyce.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 8, 2015 8:15:32 GMT
Must admit I have never heard of Bob Bradley but by the look of his picture he is bald as a coot. I don't think Sunderland are going down and I know they are not if they hire Sam Allardyce. The only team you ever think is going down is us.
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Post by Gods on Oct 8, 2015 8:26:27 GMT
Must admit I have never heard of Bob Bradley but by the look of his picture he is bald as a coot. I don't think Sunderland are going down and I know they are not if they hire Sam Allardyce. The only team you ever think is going down is us. Bournemouth and Watford, and someone else, god knows who, but not us, we can't stop winning right now! I would say Norwich but I don't think the grim reaper will call for all 3 promoted teams. So perhaps it will have to be one of the big boys but I never pick them to go down since generally they have decent squads and the capacity to throw a few ££'s at the thing in January.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Oct 8, 2015 14:22:27 GMT
Can't believe they didn't go for Big Sam. We have, don't believe the media like the daily mirror. Most journalists writing those are Newcastle fans To be honest I've read nothing except seen this Bradley link. Apart from the Newcastle connection, I think he's be perfect for you and obviously he'd love shoving and any Sunderland success up Newcastle.
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Post by Willoch on Oct 8, 2015 16:08:47 GMT
He's certainly impressed every Norwegian who follow football. Seems a great, great manager.
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Post by haway on Oct 8, 2015 16:21:45 GMT
We have, don't believe the media like the daily mirror. Most journalists writing those are Newcastle fans To be honest I've read nothing except seen this Bradley link. Apart from the Newcastle connection, I think he's be perfect for you and obviously he'd love shoving and any Sunderland success up Newcastle. Ex Sunderland player too, people forget this
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Oct 8, 2015 16:49:46 GMT
To be honest I've read nothing except seen this Bradley link. Apart from the Newcastle connection, I think he's be perfect for you and obviously he'd love shoving and any Sunderland success up Newcastle. Ex Sunderland player too, people forget this I had!
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