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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 2, 2015 12:02:43 GMT
It's only a matter of time before the usual posters start laying into the manager. The previous manager has done a right job on them. It's so unbelievably transparent.
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Post by Gods on Sept 2, 2015 12:16:42 GMT
Johnson, Pieters and Muniesa in the same side is a bit of a luxury for me, as in, they are all good with the ball at their feet, but not brilliant at defending, poor in the air and on set pieces, therefore for me essential we have at least 1 commanding defender in those areas to add much needed balance to that back four. Instead we have a square peg who looks out of place and regularly loses his marker. When we lost our captain I thought it would be top priortiy on our managers list to get that issue sorted. I would much prefer to see Wolly in there and Camerons energy in the midfield. Maybe I am just old school and the game has moved on, Hughes theory may well be if we have 70% of the posession then keeping the ball is the best form of defence. When asked about the perils of defending set pieces in his press conference, he mentioned about avoiding set pieces altogether rather than having to defend them - maybe he is light years ahead of all of us, because I cant see how a team can avoid miss-timed tackles - not when you have clumsy(dirty bastard) players like Adam in your side. Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days.An honest answer to your honest question (no agenda here) is that it boils down to a lack of decent outcomes so far, it just makes people very nervous. We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) games at all barring Wrexham and Singapore, we took that misfiring in to the Premier League program where we are also without a win against decent opposition and it all culminated in the League Cup fiasco where we were not able to tuck away 88th place Luton before all discipline went out the window against WBA. I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. It's not just the defence, we haven't scored a home goal or any goal at all with a shot (2 Diouf headers and a soft penalty) in open play this season in the Prem have we? I have to pinch myself as to how we have gone from the finish to last season to this, we have talent of that I am certain, but its not firing at all yet. Its nothing a couple of wins won't fix in the fickle world of football I know that!
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Post by sutekh on Sept 2, 2015 12:18:24 GMT
Or happy days for those with a petty, pathetic agenda and are desperately hoping for this manager to fail. Yes I think we have pretty much a thread full house on that score. The only one obviously missing is too busy making a cock of himself on WestBrom.com Stokelad84 by any chance?
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Post by countofmontecristo on Sept 2, 2015 12:20:48 GMT
after what we've done over the last 2 seasons thanks to Hughes, this thread title is possibly the most embarrassing thing i've ever seen on here! shameful, disrespectful and cringeworthy! Spot on. Could you try to keep more of your posts as accurate and concise as this one please Mick?!
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 2, 2015 12:24:56 GMT
Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days.An honest answer to your honest question (no agenda here) is that it boils down to a lack of decent outcomes so far, it just makes people very nervous. We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) games at all barring Wrexham and Singapore, we took that misfiring in to the Premier League program where we are also without a win against decent opposition and it all culminated in the League Cup fiasco where we were not able to tuck away 88th place Luton before all discipline went out the window against WBA. I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. It's not just the defence, we haven't scored a home goal or any goal at all with a shot (2 Diouf headers and a soft penalty) in open play this season in the Prem have we? I have to pinch myself as to how we have gone from the finish to last season to this, we have talent of that I am certain, but its not firing at all yet. Its nothing a couple of wins won't fix in the fickle world of football I know that! You keep saying that the pre season games don't count yet constantly count them.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 2, 2015 12:26:09 GMT
Where's tazi/st4 anyway?
Has he been banned again?
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Post by blackpoolred on Sept 2, 2015 12:26:48 GMT
Johnson, Pieters and Muniesa in the same side is a bit of a luxury for me, as in, they are all good with the ball at their feet, but not brilliant at defending, poor in the air and on set pieces, therefore for me essential we have at least 1 commanding defender in those areas to add much needed balance to that back four. Instead we have a square peg who looks out of place and regularly loses his marker. When we lost our captain I thought it would be top priortiy on our managers list to get that issue sorted. I would much prefer to see Wolly in there and Camerons energy in the midfield. Maybe I am just old school and the game has moved on, Hughes theory may well be if we have 70% of the posession then keeping the ball is the best form of defence. When asked about the perils of defending set pieces in his press conference, he mentioned about avoiding set pieces altogether rather than having to defend them - maybe he is light years ahead of all of us, because I cant see how a team can avoid miss-timed tackles - not when you have clumsy(dirty bastard) players like Adam in your side. Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days. I think we are agreeing that he should be playing Wooly in defense for his aerial ability. But he is not!! he is playing a player out of his normal position rather than a recognised CB, that says to me that he does not rate or trust his recognised Centre Backs.. If this is the case why not TRY and get somebody in the window. Not hysterical, yet anyway, but baffled that he was not at least trying to get somebody in and even more baffled as to why Cameron is playing there when he has Wooly/Wilson. Would be more than delighted to see Pieters/Johnson names on the team sheet if we had the Berlin wall in the Centre Back positions(obviously dont have that option now) - that, for me, balances flair with a bit of steel - I suppose balance is the key word here, for me we dont have any in defence/mid at the moment. As stated I am not hysterical, but at the same time cannot understand the people who are drooling over a top six finish and now saying we have a great chance of beating Arsenal. I think if he persists with the same away teams as Norwich/Spurs we could be in for a very long night at the emirates.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 2, 2015 12:29:32 GMT
Mark Hughes has achieved two top ten finishes. He has raised the profile of the club allowing us to sign decent players.
We play decent attractive successful for our level football.
He clearly has a passion for his job and the club.
The thread title is embarrassing but very insulting to our manager.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 2, 2015 12:30:35 GMT
Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days. I think we are agreeing that he should be playing Wooly in defense for his aerial ability. But he is not!! he is playing a player out of his normal position rather than a recognised CB, that says to me that he does not rate or trust his recognised Centre Backs.. If this is the case why not TRY and get somebody in the window. Not hysterical, yet anyway, but baffled that he was not at least trying to get somebody in and even more baffled as to why Cameron is playing there when he has Wooly/Wilson. Would be more than delighted to see Pieters/Johnson names on the team sheet if we had the Berlin wall in the Centre Back positions(obviously dont have that option now) - that, for me, balances flair with a bit of steel - I suppose balance is the key word here, for me we dont have any in defence/mid at the moment. As stated I am not hysterical, but at the same time cannot understand the people who are drooling over a top six finish and now saying we have a great chance of beating Arsenal. I think if he persists with the same away teams as Norwich/Spurs we could be in for a very long night at the emirates. Cameron came in and had an excellent pre-season, has kept Benteke and Kane quiet and has done at least as well as the other defenders. For right centre back the choice is him or Wolly and he has done more than enough to keep his place. Hughes continues to be consistent in how he rewards form
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 2, 2015 12:40:21 GMT
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Post by greyman on Sept 2, 2015 12:48:04 GMT
Mark Hughes has done a great job and the OP has got the timing of this thread completely wrong. We've had two 9th place finishes, finished last season strongly and are only four league games into this season, knowing also MH teams are slow starters. Peter Coates said the transfer policy had to be self supporting and in an age where transfer fees are simply stupid I think he's correct. There is no 'we'. You are not a Stoke supporter and do not attend or even watch games. You're a cunt. Now fuck off.
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Post by Gods on Sept 2, 2015 12:57:41 GMT
An honest answer to your honest question (no agenda here) is that it boils down to a lack of decent outcomes so far, it just makes people very nervous. We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) games at all barring Wrexham and Singapore, we took that misfiring in to the Premier League program where we are also without a win against decent opposition and it all culminated in the League Cup fiasco where we were not able to tuck away 88th place Luton before all discipline went out the window against WBA. I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. It's not just the defence, we haven't scored a home goal or any goal at all with a shot (2 Diouf headers and a soft penalty) in open play this season in the Prem have we? I have to pinch myself as to how we have gone from the finish to last season to this, we have talent of that I am certain, but its not firing at all yet. Its nothing a couple of wins won't fix in the fickle world of football I know that! You keep saying that the pre season games don't count yet constantly count them. You just made that up. Your task for the day, see if you can retrieve a single post where I have said that.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 2, 2015 13:00:27 GMT
Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days.We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. That didn't take long, what do I win?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 2, 2015 13:01:09 GMT
Mark Hughes has done a great job and the OP has got the timing of this thread completely wrong. We've had two 9th place finishes, finished last season strongly and are only four league games into this season, knowing also MH teams are slow starters. Peter Coates said the transfer policy had to be self supporting and in an age where transfer fees are simply stupid I think he's correct. There is no 'we'. You are not a Stoke supporter and do not attend or even watch games. You're a cunt. Now fuck off. made me laugh that did
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 13:04:55 GMT
We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. That didn't take long, what do I win? i do believe that Gods now knows full well what it feels like to be "Owned" BOOM!
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Post by geoff321 on Sept 2, 2015 13:19:11 GMT
If I can just correct you slightly greyman.
Not a Stoke supporter wrong Don't attend games correct Don't watch games wrong Am a cunt correct
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 2, 2015 13:23:25 GMT
Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days.An honest answer to your honest question (no agenda here) is that it boils down to a lack of decent outcomes so far, it just makes people very nervous. We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) games at all barring Wrexham and Singapore, we took that misfiring in to the Premier League program where we are also without a win against decent opposition and it all culminated in the League Cup fiasco where we were not able to tuck away 88th place Luton before all discipline went out the window against WBA. I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. It's not just the defence, we haven't scored a home goal or any goal at all with a shot (2 Diouf headers and a soft penalty) in open play this season in the Prem have we? I have to pinch myself as to how we have gone from the finish to last season to this, we have talent of that I am certain, but its not firing at all yet. Its nothing a couple of wins won't fix in the fickle world of football I know that! No offence mate, but worrying about pre season results and putting them in a "9 without a win" scenario is ridiculous. Luton wasn't ideal, I grant you, but the majority of the team were playing their first game of the season and it was nowhere near as worrying as being totally outplayed by the likes of Swindon and Darlington, both at home as well.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 2, 2015 13:29:58 GMT
Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days. I think we are agreeing that he should be playing Wooly in defense for his aerial ability. But he is not!! he is playing a player out of his normal position rather than a recognised CB, that says to me that he does not rate or trust his recognised Centre Backs.. If this is the case why not TRY and get somebody in the window. Not hysterical, yet anyway, but baffled that he was not at least trying to get somebody in and even more baffled as to why Cameron is playing there when he has Wooly/Wilson. Would be more than delighted to see Pieters/Johnson names on the team sheet if we had the Berlin wall in the Centre Back positions(obviously dont have that option now) - that, for me, balances flair with a bit of steel - I suppose balance is the key word here, for me we dont have any in defence/mid at the moment. As stated I am not hysterical, but at the same time cannot understand the people who are drooling over a top six finish and now saying we have a great chance of beating Arsenal. I think if he persists with the same away teams as Norwich/Spurs we could be in for a very long night at the emirates. Geoff Cameron doesn't believe he's out of position and believes centre half to be his most natural position. If we play how we did for 70 minutes at Norwich anyone could beat us, let alone Arsenal. If, however, we can replicate our opening 20 minutes v Norwich for the best part of 90 minutes we are more than capable of going to Arsenal and winning.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 2, 2015 13:31:51 GMT
If I can just correct you slightly greyman. Not a Stoke supporter wrong Don't attend games correct Don't watch games wrong Am a cunt correct Couple of things Geoff. Why when you first started posting did you refer to Stoke as 'you' rather than 'we' and declare yourself a vague 'follower of local football' rather than 'a Stoke fan'? Also, watching highlights isn't the same as watching games.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 2, 2015 13:33:55 GMT
Mark Hughes has achieved two top ten finishes. He has raised the profile of the club allowing us to sign decent players. We play decent attractive successful for our level football. He clearly has a passion for his job and the club. The thread title is embarrassing but very insulting to our manager. This! Some of us have lost all sense of reality and where we have come from.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 2, 2015 13:39:53 GMT
First time I've come on this thread, thankfully. I'm fucking off again now.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 2, 2015 13:43:58 GMT
Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days.An honest answer to your honest question (no agenda here) is that it boils down to a lack of decent outcomes so far, it just makes people very nervous. We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) games at all barring Wrexham and Singapore, we took that misfiring in to the Premier League program where we are also without a win against decent opposition and it all culminated in the League Cup fiasco where we were not able to tuck away 88th place Luton before all discipline went out the window against WBA. I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. It's not just the defence, we haven't scored a home goal or any goal at all with a shot (2 Diouf headers and a soft penalty) in open play this season in the Prem have we? I have to pinch myself as to how we have gone from the finish to last season to this, we have talent of that I am certain, but its not firing at all yet. Its nothing a couple of wins won't fix in the fickle world of football I know that! We've only lost 1 of our last 4 games,and that was with 9 men,with the other 3 games all being away from home.Hardly time for wrist slashing is it.
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Post by Gods on Sept 2, 2015 13:50:33 GMT
We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. That didn't take long, what do I win? What a literal man you are, that was a piece of parody, playing back what other folks may think. I hope you knew that, I really do for the sake of your own mental state if nothing else!
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Post by countofmontecristo on Sept 2, 2015 13:54:15 GMT
That didn't take long, what do I win? What a literal man you are, that was a piece of parody, playing back what other folks may think. I hope you knew that, I really do for the sake of your own mental state if nothing else! That's a big spade you're using there Gods!
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Post by geoff321 on Sept 2, 2015 14:01:37 GMT
This thread Rob is about MH but yes I seem to remember using the word you a couple of times but I'm not sure in what context. I don't go to games because I won't pay the entrance fees out of principle and watching extended highlights on the T.V. does give you a fairly accurate feeling for the way a team is playing.
I have never been told that not attending games means you can't join this message board or have a view. It would be of course entirely wrong of anyone to express views they don't believe in and in that respect I am careful what I talk about.
I back England and Hodgson/ support officials/ backed Pulis/ back Hughes and think football is to costly.
Now back to the thread subject.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 2, 2015 14:05:53 GMT
This thread Rob is about MH but yes I seem to remember using the word you a couple of times but I'm not sure in what context. I don't go to games because I won't pay the entrance fees out of principle and watching extended highlights on the T.V. does give you a fairly accurate feeling for the way a team is playing. I have never been told that not attending games means you can't join this message board or have a view. It would be of course entirely wrong of anyone to express views they don't believe in and in that respect I am careful what I talk about. I back England and Hodgson/ support officials/ backed Pulis/ back Hughes and think football is to costly. Now back to the thread subject. I've never once taken issue with you not attending games. If you don't watch the whole game but carefully edited highlights though you're significantly less informed about how the team is playing than those who see the whole match every week. You used the term 'you' to describe Stoke to other supporters. "You always seem to play with plenty of pace whenever I've seen you", that sort of thing (which given this was the dregs of the Pulis era underlines just how little of us you were actually watching). Why did the 'I'm just a follower of local football' line stop out of interest?
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 2, 2015 14:13:24 GMT
Mark Hughes has achieved two top ten finishes. He has raised the profile of the club allowing us to sign decent players. We play decent attractive successful for our level football. He clearly has a passion for his job and the club. The thread title is embarrassing but very insulting to our manager. +1 It's a good job nothing anyone says on here has any bearing on anything in the real world
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 2, 2015 14:22:48 GMT
Mark Hughes has achieved two top ten finishes. He has raised the profile of the club allowing us to sign decent players. We play decent attractive successful for our level football. He clearly has a passion for his job and the club. The thread title is embarrassing but very insulting to our manager. Hear, hear.
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Post by geoff321 on Sept 2, 2015 14:25:03 GMT
If you believe Rob I'm not a Stoke supporter then there's nothing I can do about that,in any case if people are only allowed to comment about clubs they support this message board would be fairly quiet.
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Post by Gods on Sept 2, 2015 14:33:51 GMT
An honest answer to your honest question (no agenda here) is that it boils down to a lack of decent outcomes so far, it just makes people very nervous. We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) games at all barring Wrexham and Singapore, we took that misfiring in to the Premier League program where we are also without a win against decent opposition and it all culminated in the League Cup fiasco where we were not able to tuck away 88th place Luton before all discipline went out the window against WBA. I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. It's not just the defence, we haven't scored a home goal or any goal at all with a shot (2 Diouf headers and a soft penalty) in open play this season in the Prem have we? I have to pinch myself as to how we have gone from the finish to last season to this, we have talent of that I am certain, but its not firing at all yet. Its nothing a couple of wins won't fix in the fickle world of football I know that! No offence mate, but worrying about pre season results and putting them in a "9 without a win" scenario is ridiculous. Luton wasn't ideal, I grant you, but the majority of the team were playing their first game of the season and it was nowhere near as worrying as being totally outplayed by the likes of Swindon and Darlington, both at home as well. I know some games matter a lot and others hardly at all but being a fan is like being a boxer to me. You take a few haymakers (the last 70 minutes of the Norwich debacle), you take a few low blows (WBA), a blow or two in the solo plexus (Luton) and you take a few innocuous rabbit punches (the pre-season program) but when you pput it all together we've taken quite a pasting since those heady days of May. For what its worth that's why I think people like me are a testy right now, we feel like we're on the ropes and we are going come out punching
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