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Post by feedtheshaq on Aug 29, 2015 7:08:29 GMT
Being brutally honest I'm almost too emotional to write anything that would make any sense re the great man's homecoming but I'll try! I personally will never understand some of the sheer hatred and bitterness from certain people on this board or among some of the Stoke support. For whatever reason I connected with him on all levels, loved his dogged determination, his will to win and be successful, his politics, ethics, and his never say die attitude. For over two decades, apart from a couple of brief flirtations with relative success we were shit, we were nowhere apart from in the wilderness and looked odds on to remain there forever..................until Peter Coates instigated (on two occasions) the appointment of TP as Stoke City manager. What a masterstroke. At long last we became a team, a club that didn't lose football matches without one hell of a scrap and actually won football matches by any means we could and I loved it. I couldn't care less how we did it ,we just did it and after years of being spineless, weak losers we became tough winners. The first season in the Prem was dream world. Every man and his dog had us nailed on to back down but not Tony, not his team and not our supporters. WE were all in it together, all of us against the rest of the world or so it felt. Spine tingling stuff that I will take to my grave and that I will always be forever grateful to Tony Pulis for. Beating Man shitty 1-0 with 10 men and the players completely knackered on 80 mins when four sides of the Brit came together , chanting C'mon Stoke C'mon Stoke and we saw the last 10 minutes out together as one, Wembley v Bolton, cup final v Man C, Europe, all fantastic achievements but for me as a lifelong Stoke City supporter since !969/70 I felt so so fucking proud of my team. A warm feeling inside. I don't think there is another man/manager that would have left his mother's death bed to come back and steer his team to victory as TP did on that night v Aston Villa. The man loved being Stoke City manager, he was proud to be Stoke City manager every single day that he was in the post and right up until his departure he was proud and rightly so. Whatever the whys and wherefores surrounding differing opinions on TP he gave his ALL to our great club and no matter what happens in the future he will go down as one of the greatest managers in the history of our great club and rightly so. I can't wait to welcome him back and he will receive a standing ovation from me and the rest of the Stoke support I'm sure but after the walk from the tunnel to the dugouts he's just another manager of an opposing club...............................Yeah, right. "We became a team,a club that didn't lose football matches without one hell of a scrap". Just when I thought the first line of your post was over the top,sentimental clap trap,you go and produce this little beauty. The history rewriting continues So when remember something positive it's rewriting history. When people remember something negative it's spot on?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 7:12:08 GMT
"We became a team,a club that didn't lose football matches without one hell of a scrap". Just when I thought the first line of your post was over the top,sentimental clap trap,you go and produce this little beauty. The history rewriting continues So when remember something positive it's rewriting history. When people remember something negative it's spot on? Where have I said that mate? Some of what he has said in the post I quoted is spot on,whilst some of it is utter bollocks. The part I quoted is utter bollocks that's why I quoted it. Do you believe the bit I quoted to be true then I take it?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 29, 2015 7:13:53 GMT
I expected us to at least try. The team Tony put out was about the weakest possible and we still managed to give them a game. With a little ambition we could have done something. In my book what he did was unforgivable and a betrayal of the supporters he encouraged to go out there. The team in Valencia did better than the team he picked fo the home game. Fuller, Jones and Jerome were more threatening the Walters and Crouch the week before. The players picked did us proud but he didn't know they would. He picked a team he expected to lose.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2015 7:13:51 GMT
I expect a similar write up in The Marksmen on Saturday???? He's had plenty of Oatcake articles mate Enough is enough of this shite Come on mate, He's only been gone two years.
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Post by feedtheshaq on Aug 29, 2015 7:17:41 GMT
So when remember something positive it's rewriting history. When people remember something negative it's spot on? Where have I said that mate? Some of what he has said in the post I quoted is spot on,whilst some of it is utter bollocks. The part I quoted is utter bollocks that's why I quoted it. Do you believe the bit I quoted to be true then I take it? Every season players and managers would say Stoke away was their thoughest test. Are they full of crap too?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 7:19:25 GMT
Where have I said that mate? Some of what he has said in the post I quoted is spot on,whilst some of it is utter bollocks. The part I quoted is utter bollocks that's why I quoted it. Do you believe the bit I quoted to be true then I take it? Every season players and managers would say Stoke away was their thoughest test. Are they full of crap too? So we only used to play home games under Pulis then? Like I said,he was talking utter bollocks.
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Post by feedtheshaq on Aug 29, 2015 7:23:42 GMT
Of course not. But I love how the people moaning about rewriting history refuse to mention the home games. Can't have it both ways. If the home from was as bad as the away form we wouldn't have got promoted and would literally have done a Derby.
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Post by alster on Aug 29, 2015 7:25:01 GMT
How any TRUE Stoke supporter tomorrow cannot have a little bit of heart felt genuine gratitude towards this bloke TP .....they have got no soul nor spirit. Pathetic. Was the road to Damascus everything it's cracked up to be ? I think most roads to Damascus are pretty fucked. If you want to visit to find out for yourself don't be surprised when some ungrateful bastard raised on UK benefits cuts your fucking head off live on al Jazeera.
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Post by rawli on Aug 29, 2015 7:25:29 GMT
I expected us to at least try. The team Tony put out was about the weakest possible and we still managed to give them a game. With a little ambition we could have done something. In my book what he did was unforgivable and a betrayal of the supporters he encouraged to go out there. The team in Valencia did better than the team he picked fo the home game. Fuller, Jones and Jerome were more threatening the Walters and Crouch the week before. What a pathetic argument - a team he clearly didn't rate (it contained Winston and Arismendi in midfield) went out and overperformed. You are talking as if it was some masterstroke. I remember shouting at Kemp that we'd better fucking beat Swansea after they walked off at the end in mock disappointment. And I remember the shitty smirk he flashed at me. (We were sat right behind the dugout, so close we nearly nicked the subs board until security spotted us ) If the likes of Fulham and Boro could get to the final, don't tell me we couldn't have. We sacrificed any chance of glory that night which is unforgivable.
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Post by rawli on Aug 29, 2015 7:27:20 GMT
"We became a team,a club that didn't lose football matches without one hell of a scrap". Just when I thought the first line of your post was over the top,sentimental clap trap,you go and produce this little beauty. The history rewriting continues So when remember something positive it's rewriting history. When people remember something negative it's spot on? Don't you remember 'bonus games'? Can't remember much of a scrap in those.
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Post by alster on Aug 29, 2015 7:27:41 GMT
Where have I said that mate? Some of what he has said in the post I quoted is spot on,whilst some of it is utter bollocks. The part I quoted is utter bollocks that's why I quoted it. Do you believe the bit I quoted to be true then I take it? Every season players and managers would say Stoke away was their thoughest test. Are they full of crap too? I only go to home games and would agree they were normally pretty fucking testing. On the eyes!
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Post by awrypotter on Aug 29, 2015 7:29:00 GMT
Just wanted to say an enormous thank you to Tony Pulis. Having been supporting Stoke now for nigh on 60 years before he became manager I like many other older fans had started to believe that I would never see Stoke in the top flight again and certainly not get to an FA cup final and play in Europe. He obviously has an amazing bond with this club, much more than just another job on his CV. Yes in the end he ran out of ideas in football terms at Stoke but he has left us with incredible memories and a solid foundation to build on. He deserves total respect from Stoke fans. Thank you Mr Pulis. We know you will always be a Stokie in your heart and ours.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2015 7:30:11 GMT
Of course not. But I love how the people moaning about rewriting history refuse to mention the home games. Can't have it both ways. If the home from was as bad as the away form we wouldn't have got promoted and would literally have done a Derby. In them last two seasons we could be utter shit at home. West Ham beat us and their away form was dreadful. They had lost 7 out of their previous 8 away games. They were also missing Kevin Nolan and Mark Noble, in the early stages of the match they had to replace Matt Taylor and Joe Cole. And they beat us easy. a 1-0 thrashing.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 29, 2015 8:34:55 GMT
He's had plenty of Oatcake articles mate Enough is enough of this shite Come on mate, He's only been gone two years. Absolutely, if we were half-decent supporters, we should ensure that a true messiah be conferred with the Balloon D'Oatcake, have Gladioli tossed on the arriving coach, rose petals sprinkled on the red carpet, and a statue for good measure. Our love should know no bounds ....
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Post by werrington on Aug 29, 2015 8:36:42 GMT
Even the WBA fans have given up stokecity_joshw: It's MATCHDAY and it's another home SELL OUT! Around 2,000 away fans expected. A certain Swiss player could make his home debut... #scfc
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Post by matelot1996 on Aug 29, 2015 8:46:36 GMT
Anyone who bares a grudge against a man who took us to the promised land and established us as a Premier League side knows shag all about football and what an achievement that is. For that, all true Stoke fans should be eternally grateful to TP.
Conversely his tenure ship was creating friction all around the club. The "product" was generally painful to watch and as a paying customer I'm very glad he left. For his departure, all Stoke fans should be eternally grateful to Peter Coates.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 8:48:01 GMT
People are showing their true colours now. Pugsley and Werrington hated Pulis from day 1 and always will. How they have the bare face to say people want West Bromwich to win when they spent 10 years hoping Stoke would lose is completely and utterly bonkers. I hope you are not so bitter and twisted towards your wife and kids or you will die very lonely old men. You are entitled to a contrary opinion but to suggest that about Mick (Werrington)) qualifies you for deserving nothing less than a kick in the bollocks. Then you have the nerve to accuse others of being bitter and twisted. Total twat.
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Post by Sfance on Aug 29, 2015 9:10:05 GMT
The thought of this profoundly horrible excuse for a football manager coming back to Stoke and being cheered is beyond distressing. The only worse thought is that when West Bromwich finally come to their senses and show him the door, Watford or some other poor fuck of a chairman will hire him and he'll come back again.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 9:18:49 GMT
The thought of this profoundly horrible excuse for a football manager coming back to Stoke and being cheered is beyond distressing. The only worse thought is that when West Bromwich finally come to their senses and show him the door, Watford or some other poor fuck of a chairman will hire him and he'll come back again. Indeed, he'll never get a job in the Premier League again.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 29, 2015 9:23:23 GMT
This will be the one game Pulis will want to win more than any other, so let's give all the encouragement we can at the start :/
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 9:24:58 GMT
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Post by feedtheshaq on Aug 29, 2015 9:27:01 GMT
People are showing their true colours now. Pugsley and Werrington hated Pulis from day 1 and always will. How they have the bare face to say people want West Bromwich to win when they spent 10 years hoping Stoke would lose is completely and utterly bonkers. I hope you are not so bitter and twisted towards your wife and kids or you will die very lonely old men. You are entitled to a contrary opinion but to suggest that about Mick (Werrington)) qualifies you for deserving nothing less than a kick in the bollocks. Then you have the nerve to accuse others of being bitter and twisted. Total twat. Funny how you're quick to defend your drinking buddies instead of moderating the forum fairly. I'm looking forward to the bingo later.
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Post by werrington on Aug 29, 2015 9:29:34 GMT
You are entitled to a contrary opinion but to suggest that about Mick (Werrington)) qualifies you for deserving nothing less than a kick in the bollocks. Then you have the nerve to accuse others of being bitter and twisted. Total twat. Funny how you're quick to defend your drinking buddies instead of moderating the forum fairly. I'm looking forward to the bingo later. Cmon then Shaq......what games did I want Stoke to lose ?
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Post by philm87 on Aug 29, 2015 9:33:25 GMT
We both know you have a personal hatred of Pulis that seriously clouds your judgement on these issues. Now you may be shallow enough to have a personal hatred for people that you don't personally know but please do not tar me with the same brush. There is not one single post that I ever made criticising Tony Pulis as a human being. I have been extremely critical of his methods in a football context. Go figure the difference and try and rationalise with yourself what there is in a completely neutral couple of posts on the subject of a reception for the bloke that has provoked you to post that! Well there must be some other explanation I am missing then? Your long standing and obsessive agenda against him cannot be explained in reference to any ''football context'' as you put it. You support Stoke City and this guy is a genuine Stoke City legend. The man won us promotion, kept us up comfortably, established us in the Premier League, signed legends like Shawcross and Fuller, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final ... on this basis it cannot be a ''football context'' that explains your obvious dislike for him and your smug contempt for anyone who recognises his role in our history and our recent success. The reason you don't like him is because not liking him has become part of your identity. It has no basis in reason and very little basis in any ''football context''. The fact that you have not met him in person is irrelevant also, given that nobody on here has met Margaret Thatcher either.
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Post by Beardy200 on Aug 29, 2015 9:37:37 GMT
People are showing their true colours now. Pugsley and Werrington hated Pulis from day 1 and always will. How they have the bare face to say people want West Bromwich to win when they spent 10 years hoping Stoke would lose is completely and utterly bonkers. I hope you are not so bitter and twisted towards your wife and kids or you will die very lonely old men. You are entitled to a contrary opinion but to suggest that about Mick (Werrington)) qualifies you for deserving nothing less than a kick in the bollocks. Then you have the nerve to accuse others of being bitter and twisted. Total twat. I think this poster deserves a small time out admin. ;D
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 9:39:48 GMT
People did want us to lose under Pulis. It was before a Wolves game at the time of the shameful red card incident, there was a long thread on here about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 9:43:42 GMT
You are entitled to a contrary opinion but to suggest that about Mick (Werrington)) qualifies you for deserving nothing less than a kick in the bollocks. Then you have the nerve to accuse others of being bitter and twisted. Total twat. I think this poster deserves a small time out admin. ;D You are a bitter and twisted cuntrag.......I hope your hamster dies of distemper
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Post by Beardy200 on Aug 29, 2015 9:49:23 GMT
I think this poster deserves a small time out admin. ;D :D You are a bitter and twisted cuntrag.......I hope your hamster dies of distemper ;) You're good. You winked at me ;)
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 9:54:34 GMT
You are entitled to a contrary opinion but to suggest that about Mick (Werrington)) qualifies you for deserving nothing less than a kick in the bollocks. Then you have the nerve to accuse others of being bitter and twisted. Total twat. Funny how you're quick to defend your drinking buddies instead of moderating the forum fairly. I'm looking forward to the bingo later. Not as amusing as being lectured on forum administration by someone who has contributed hugely to the near death of one.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 10:11:06 GMT
Looks like a roll call of West Brom fans turning up to enjoy a Pulis away day spectacular would be quicker to complete. Any idea why so few are making the short journey? And why is nobody getting emotional about the return of the tactical genius that was instrumental in delivering the miracle. Thunderous applause for Kempy Kempo or you are not a true Stoke supporter!!!
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