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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 2, 2015 19:50:23 GMT
Now seeing a back specialist Tuesday That sounds very very concerning
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 2, 2015 19:53:35 GMT
He's had all summer to see a back specialist.
What the fuck have we been playing at?
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Post by werrington on Aug 2, 2015 20:01:44 GMT
He's had all summer to see a back specialist. What the fuck have we been playing at? Doing the right thing The best things for backs are waiting to see if it settles itself which it obviously hasn't happened as spinal surgery is big shit The medical people aren't stupid mate
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Post by jeycov on Aug 2, 2015 20:02:46 GMT
It looks like we have to plan without him for the first few games at least.
He missed at least a month last season, his captaincy is as big a loss as his fitness issues.
Does Glenn play to his potential when he is captain?
Interestingly Sidwell got the armband when neither of them played
? Charlie if he gets plenty of game time?
I can see Cameron starting there with Muniesa, with Bardsley at RB if he has recovered from his injury
If not Wollscheid and Muni - they played well together away at Leicester (who played some good attacking football on that day imo)
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 2, 2015 20:08:31 GMT
He's had all summer to see a back specialist. What the fuck have we been playing at? Doing the right thing The best things for backs are waiting to see if it settles itself which it obviously hasn't happened as spinal surgery is big shit The medical people aren't stupid mate Spot on mate,as a veteran of 3 spinal compressions (slipped discs) surgery is always the last resort.I spent 5weeks in hospital on traction in the hope that surgery could be avoided.It is major surgery.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 2, 2015 20:12:11 GMT
Now seeing a back specialist Tuesday
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 20:12:19 GMT
Now seeing a back specialist Tuesday First stage with this, after the routine X Rays and MRI Scans, is a cortisone epidural, unless it's gone past that stage. The Cortisone epidural reduces pain and swelling in the area enough to allow the body to try and deal with the excess disc material itself. If it has gone past that stage then there is normally only one route here for a sportsman. Even for a top level sportsman with access to all the very best medical care from surgeon through to physio this is very much shit or bust. Ask any back surgeon and he will tell you that they only operate on "normal" people when they are in that much pain they can barely walk - such are the risks. They will try anything and everything before going down that road. Having been through this process personally I can't stress enough how much i'm panicking about this. EDIT: The operation he is likely to have done is a microdiscetomy, which is a minimally invasive operation done like keyhole surgery. Normal recovery times are about 8 weeks from surgery to training field. It's the same op Andy Murray had done and I think John Terry had it a few years back.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 2, 2015 20:35:52 GMT
Shopping time, transfer boys.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 2, 2015 20:37:40 GMT
Hughes on the OS "we need to get it sorted once and for all"
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Post by StokieNath on Aug 2, 2015 20:38:55 GMT
In this situation I wouldn't mind seeing bloody Mike Williamson at the club
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 20:41:16 GMT
I'm pretty sure there'll be a loan on the cards now!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 20:42:16 GMT
A loan of a player until January would be perfect. Minimal outlay, maximum protection of Shawcross and get's us through to the January window where we can make a more firm decision long term.
Who that player could be, is anyone's guess.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Aug 2, 2015 20:44:53 GMT
A loan of a player until January would be perfect. Minimal outlay, maximum protection of Shawcross and get's us through to the January window where we can make a more firm decision long term. Who that player could be, is anyone's guess. Therein lies the problem. Who on earth could we loan that would be a ready made replacement for him?!! Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 2, 2015 20:46:55 GMT
Blackett and McNair at the shit, up for loan. Good enough?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 2, 2015 20:48:04 GMT
A loan of a player until January would be perfect. Minimal outlay, maximum protection of Shawcross and get's us through to the January window where we can make a more firm decision long term. Who that player could be, is anyone's guess. Therein lies the problem. Who on earth could we loan that would be a ready made replacement for him?!! Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards Its not about replacement unless we spend £10M plus, its about better than we've got.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 20:48:19 GMT
A bit left field granted, but what about Jonas Guiterrez on a short term deal to play left back and use Pieters as Centre Half with Muni?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 2, 2015 20:49:09 GMT
I'm sure we could call in a favour off TP and loan 1 of his numerous centre backs
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Post by jeycov on Aug 2, 2015 20:50:32 GMT
Now seeing a back specialist Tuesday First stage with this, after the routine X Rays and MRI Scans, is a cortisone epidural, unless it's gone past that stage. The Cortisone epidural reduces pain and swelling in the area enough to allow the body to try and deal with the excess disc material itself. If it has gone past that stage then there is normally only one route here for a sportsman. Even for a top level sportsman with access to all the very best medical care from surgeon through to physio this is very much shit or bust. Ask any back surgeon and he will tell you that they only operate on "normal" people when they are in that much pain they can barely walk - such are the risks. They will try anything and everything before going down that road. Having been through this process personally I can't stress enough how much i'm panicking about this. EDIT: The operation he is likely to have done is a microdiscetomy, which is a minimally invasive operation done like keyhole surgery. Normal recovery times are about 8 weeks from surgery to training field. It's the same op Andy Murray had done and I think John Terry had it a few years back. I wasn't aware that Terry had this type of op - it's good news if he did, as he has returned to football at the same level pre injury It's taken Andy Murray nearly 12 months to regain his full fitness. Different sport of course, Murray is involved almost non stop for up to 4 hours playing top class tennis. Lots of running / changing direction BUT it is a non contact sport. The club will need to plan without Ryan - a massive disappointment for Ryan and the club, but something that they have been ready for no doubt He'll have the very best treatment and the very best support
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 2, 2015 20:51:50 GMT
Absolute joke. Schoolboy error by all concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 20:52:14 GMT
Chris Samba. Out in Russia, last year of his contract and his family still live over here.
Hughes knows him, signed him and got the best out of him at Blackburn. Perfect.
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Post by chad on Aug 2, 2015 20:52:24 GMT
Blackett and McNair at the shit, up for loan. Good enough? Error nowhere near
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 2, 2015 20:52:20 GMT
First stage with this, after the routine X Rays and MRI Scans, is a cortisone epidural, unless it's gone past that stage. The Cortisone epidural reduces pain and swelling in the area enough to allow the body to try and deal with the excess disc material itself. If it has gone past that stage then there is normally only one route here for a sportsman. Even for a top level sportsman with access to all the very best medical care from surgeon through to physio this is very much shit or bust. Ask any back surgeon and he will tell you that they only operate on "normal" people when they are in that much pain they can barely walk - such are the risks. They will try anything and everything before going down that road. Having been through this process personally I can't stress enough how much i'm panicking about this. EDIT: The operation he is likely to have done is a microdiscetomy, which is a minimally invasive operation done like keyhole surgery. Normal recovery times are about 8 weeks from surgery to training field. It's the same op Andy Murray had done and I think John Terry had it a few years back. but something that they have been ready for no doubt The departure of Huth suggests not that ready.
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Post by lancashirelad on Aug 2, 2015 20:53:11 GMT
Any CB signing has to be a leader and organiser as the others at the club CB wise need a leader. MH biggest task is to sign that leader and not a fancy Bambi on ice!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 2, 2015 20:53:19 GMT
Blackett and McNair at the shit, up for loan. Good enough? Error nowhere near Perhaps not but if you don't go young on loan you go old. Who?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 2, 2015 20:54:22 GMT
Chris Samba. Out in Russia, last year of his contract and his family still live over here. Hughes knows him, signed him and got the best out of him at Blackburn. Perfect. £100K a week?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 2, 2015 20:55:29 GMT
Perhaps not but if you don't go young on loan you go old. Who? Curtis Davies?
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Post by StokieNath on Aug 2, 2015 20:55:30 GMT
A loan of a player until January would be perfect. Minimal outlay, maximum protection of Shawcross and get's us through to the January window where we can make a more firm decision long term. Who that player could be, is anyone's guess. I would like Jonny Evans
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 2, 2015 20:56:14 GMT
Jonny Evans?
I think he gets a raw deal Last year of deal - wouldn't have to move house?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 20:57:05 GMT
Chris Samba. Out in Russia, last year of his contract and his family still live over here. Hughes knows him, signed him and got the best out of him at Blackburn. Perfect. £100K a week? That's what Anzi were paying him. I doubt Dinamo Moscow are paying him that. I'm sure a deal could be done.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Aug 2, 2015 20:57:22 GMT
Therein lies the problem. Who on earth could we loan that would be a ready made replacement for him?!! Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards Its not about replacement unless we spend £10M plus, its about better than we've got. Don't disagree, but thats effectively what we'd be asking a new CB to do. If Shawcross is out long term, and it looks likely, I think we'll really struggle. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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