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Post by pottersrule on Jul 22, 2015 16:33:28 GMT
That wasn't an option apparently,so it makes the question kind of irrelevant. As Huth was our player when Wolfy was signed it sort of was an option that the manager had , by the way which would you prefer ? Huth is a far better defender than Wolfy,but by all accounts Huth and Hughes don't get on, and one had to go,so keeping him wasn't really an option.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2015 16:38:33 GMT
So called my cousin in Stafford who used to play with Chris the teams physio back in the 80's at the Vale. Apparently Ryan is getting injections in his back for sciatica flare ups... They come and go it seems so it's perplexing. He's on rest. Could be precautionary, or could get worse... No surgery needed at the moment. This is what I'm hinting at above. If he's having injections he'll be getting a lot of secondary nerve pain somewhere, depending on which disc it is. Also depending on hiw much disc material is bulging out. Each course of injections he has will be roughly two weeks out. That's what happened to me when I had them. The injections *can* sometimes only last 18 months in some cases. Sounds like severe pinched lower left nerve from what I heard with some lumbar bruising initially. No herniated discs or bulging from the sounds of it which is good... But he has been in and out in the last few weeks so that explains him being close to starting then dropping out and why he isn't in for Wrexham. I had a pinched right sciatica once. I was jumping for a header and landed on my back to goal on a metal goal post woofing the ball entirely, my pride was hurt and I didn't feel the pain until like 20 minutes later and went down like a sniper shot me. Second longest niggling injury I've ever had, but it cleared up after a few months so it always doesn't end up with a disc out, but it's excruciating pain when it's throbbing when your moving about.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 22, 2015 16:52:11 GMT
This is what I'm hinting at above. If he's having injections he'll be getting a lot of secondary nerve pain somewhere, depending on which disc it is. Also depending on hiw much disc material is bulging out. Each course of injections he has will be roughly two weeks out. That's what happened to me when I had them. The injections *can* sometimes only last 18 months in some cases. Sounds like severe pinched lower left nerve from what I heard with some lumbar bruising initially. No herniated discs or bulging from the sounds of it which is good... But he has been in and out in the last few weeks so that explains him being close to starting then dropping out and why he isn't in for Wrexham. I had a pinched right sciatica once. I was jumping for a header and landed on my back to goal on a metal goal post woofing the ball entirely, my pride was hurt and I didn't feel the pain until like 20 minutes later and went down like a sniper shot me. Second longest niggling injury I've ever had, but it cleared up after a few months so it always doesn't end up with a disc out, but it's excruciating pain when it's throbbing when your moving about. Sure I read somewhere during his first bought of back trouble,he had a bulging disc and rest would hopefully cure it.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2015 16:57:17 GMT
Sounds like severe pinched lower left nerve from what I heard with some lumbar bruising initially. No herniated discs or bulging from the sounds of it which is good... But he has been in and out in the last few weeks so that explains him being close to starting then dropping out and why he isn't in for Wrexham. I had a pinched right sciatica once. I was jumping for a header and landed on my back to goal on a metal goal post woofing the ball entirely, my pride was hurt and I didn't feel the pain until like 20 minutes later and went down like a sniper shot me. Second longest niggling injury I've ever had, but it cleared up after a few months so it always doesn't end up with a disc out, but it's excruciating pain when it's throbbing when your moving about. Sure I read somewhere during his first bought of back trouble,he had a bulging disc and rest would hopefully cure it. Yes initially, around march he had a bulging disc but his left sciatica nerve got bruised and pinched too later... He should of been rested longer but being Ryan he charged through it. I think he's fighting off the nerve pain again and taking precautions not to rupture or get the disc out again. Niggling injury for him.
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Post by Miles Offside on Jul 22, 2015 17:08:18 GMT
Very worrying that Ryan hasn't figured in the friendlies.
My view - I know I'm possibly in a minority of one on here - is that we need a new CB to partner Ryan.
We definitely need one if he's not fit. We've got plenty of cover, but the thought of a Wilson/Wollscheid or Cameron combo doesn't inspire me one bit.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 22, 2015 17:33:05 GMT
Cameron has done nothing to show me he can cope as a centre half in the hurly burly of our league Cameron was absolutely superb against Everton in Singapore. Maybe he was but you cant go on a friendly in a totally different climate , he has never looked comfortable there when i have seen him play in the league , he is prone to switching off mentally and you cant in our league
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 22, 2015 17:46:12 GMT
I can't see the point in bringing in another centre back unless that centre back is better than Muni, Wilson, Wolly or Cameron. Even without Ryan we have enough to cover the central defensive area. Anyone better than those mentioned is going to cost a few million and if Ryan's injury is not as serious as some fear any new centre back is likely to be on the bench.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 17:52:11 GMT
So called my cousin in Stafford who used to play with Chris the teams physio back in the 80's at the Vale. Apparently Ryan is getting injections in his back for sciatica flare ups... They come and go it seems so it's perplexing. He's on rest. Could be precautionary, or could get worse... No surgery needed at the moment. If this is true then this constitutes a massive breach of patient confidentiality. In the public sector that is a sacking offence. Im sure Ryan will be chuffed about having his recent medical history plastered over a public forum.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2015 18:07:12 GMT
So called my cousin in Stafford who used to play with Chris the teams physio back in the 80's at the Vale. Apparently Ryan is getting injections in his back for sciatica flare ups... They come and go it seems so it's perplexing. He's on rest. Could be precautionary, or could get worse... No surgery needed at the moment. If this is true then this constitutes a massive breach of patient confidentiality. In the public sector that is a sacking offence. Im sure Ryan will be chuffed about having his recent medical history plastered over a public forum. It's common knowledge he's had the initial injury since march... The club put out a statement on his injury and at the time he was getting injections as well for a bulging disc even at half-time. It's part of being in the limelight. I'm sure he wouldn't say anything if it was to be strictly confidential which it isn't. Just a continuing naggling injury from his previous bout. I doubt that Ryan actually would care, he's not a nannie boy if you've ever met him like half this board. He talked about his injury to me at the club night a few months back.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jul 22, 2015 18:19:55 GMT
Very worrying that Ryan hasn't figured in the friendlies. My view - I know I'm possibly in a minority of one on here - is that we need a new CB to partner Ryan. We definitely need one if he's not fit. We've got plenty of cover, but the thought of a Wilson/Wollscheid or Cameron combo doesn't inspire me one bit. Agree with all that mate.The back 4 tonight frightens me to death against Wrexham never mind premiership sides.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 18:23:59 GMT
If this is true then this constitutes a massive breach of patient confidentiality. In the public sector that is a sacking offence. Im sure Ryan will be chuffed about having his recent medical history plastered over a public forum. It's common knowledge he's had the initial injury since march... The club put out a statement on his injury and at the time he was getting injections as well for a bulging disc even at half-time. It's part of being in the limelight. I'm sure he wouldn't say anything if it was to be strictly confidential which it isn't. Just a continuing naggling injury from his previous bout. I doubt that Ryan actually would care, he's not a nannie boy if you've ever met him like half this board. He talked about his injury to me at the club night a few months back. You can wrap it up how you want to but if someone who is responsible for Ryans care has commented on his current predicament to a third party then that is a breach of patient confidentiality and it has bugger all to go with being in the limelight. Ryan might be ok with it but the club may take a dim view of it.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2015 18:37:55 GMT
It's common knowledge he's had the initial injury since march... The club put out a statement on his injury and at the time he was getting injections as well for a bulging disc even at half-time. It's part of being in the limelight. I'm sure he wouldn't say anything if it was to be strictly confidential which it isn't. Just a continuing naggling injury from his previous bout. I doubt that Ryan actually would care, he's not a nannie boy if you've ever met him like half this board. He talked about his injury to me at the club night a few months back. You can wrap it up how you want to but if someone who is responsible for Ryans care has commented on his current predicament to a third party then that is a breach of patient confidentiality and it has bugger all to go with being in the limelight. Ryan might be ok with it but the club may take a dim view of it. It's not confidential. Like I said and second he's not his GP and third the club haven't put any restrictions on it as they have no need to... It's common... knowledge and well after the fact. Sherlock.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 18:40:14 GMT
You can wrap it up how you want to but if someone who is responsible for Ryans care has commented on his current predicament to a third party then that is a breach of patient confidentiality and it has bugger all to go with being in the limelight. Ryan might be ok with it but the club may take a dim view of it. It's not confidential. Like I said and second he's not his GP and third the club haven't put any restrictions on it as they have no need to... It's common... knowledge and well after the fact. Sherlock. More Dr Watson than Sherlock to be honest.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2015 18:45:24 GMT
It's not confidential. Like I said and second he's not his GP and third the club haven't put any restrictions on it as they have no need to... It's common... knowledge and well after the fact. Sherlock. More Dr Watson than Sherlock to be honest. Cheeky.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 22, 2015 20:12:10 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 22, 2015 20:12:46 GMT
Hopefully he's not just playing it down and he get's a half against Brentford.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 22, 2015 20:29:13 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 22, 2015 20:36:31 GMT
Non story.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 22, 2015 20:42:23 GMT
Not really. He had problems last season and has them pre season. Why no story????
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 22, 2015 20:43:21 GMT
Whose that fresh faced youth? Looks like a kid on work experience.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2015 0:57:02 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 23, 2015 8:14:17 GMT
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2015 8:26:28 GMT
Really can't see Ryan going to Everton, but his back problems worry me more. We really need a fit and confident Ryan to keep improving!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 23, 2015 8:34:40 GMT
They've tried, and failed, to get him 3 times before so I wouldn't be surprised if they tried again should stones leave. Im pretty certain they would fail in any attempt to get him and Ryan would only leave for a genuine top 4 club. Everton aren't that and good club though they are (and a bigger club than us) a move from stoke to Everton is a sideways one at best right now.
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Jul 23, 2015 8:52:39 GMT
Ryan himself said openly (after the training session in Singapore) that he wouldn't figure in the Asian Trophy games; we heard afterwards (scuttlebutt/ITK or whatever) that he would not play in ANY pre-season matches, and would only be ready a week or so before the season kicks off. He will require regular injections (cortisone?) for now, with the hope that the problem doesn't get worse
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Post by rawli on Jul 23, 2015 21:35:39 GMT
Ryan himself said openly (after the training session in Singapore) that he wouldn't figure in the Asian Trophy games; we heard afterwards (scuttlebutt/ITK or whatever) that he would not play in ANY pre-season matches, and would only be ready a week or so before the season kicks off. He will require regular injections (cortisone?) for now, with the hope that the problem doesn't get worse Wonder why he he put himself through 2 long haul flights in that case.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2015 22:04:50 GMT
Ryan himself said openly (after the training session in Singapore) that he wouldn't figure in the Asian Trophy games; we heard afterwards (scuttlebutt/ITK or whatever) that he would not play in ANY pre-season matches, and would only be ready a week or so before the season kicks off. He will require regular injections (cortisone?) for now, with the hope that the problem doesn't get worse Wonder why he he put himself through 2 long haul flights in that case. Yup, makes no sense!
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Post by kustokie on Jul 23, 2015 22:13:09 GMT
You can wrap it up how you want to but if someone who is responsible for Ryans care has commented on his current predicament to a third party then that is a breach of patient confidentiality and it has bugger all to go with being in the limelight. Ryan might be ok with it but the club may take a dim view of it. It's not confidential. Like I said and second he's not his GP and third the club haven't put any restrictions on it as they have no need to... It's common... knowledge and well after the fact. Sherlock. Eh? If it's common knowledge well after the fact, why bring it up?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 24, 2015 13:47:25 GMT
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 25, 2015 15:50:29 GMT
Nowt wrong with Ryan according to Mr Hughes
Just stiffness due to long coach journey and lack of game time
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