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Post by crapslinger on Feb 16, 2016 18:01:01 GMT
On Friday, the Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer in fact told me that, of the 59 suspects pinpointed so far, just four are from war-torn countries (Syria and Iraq), only 14 are in custody, and nobody has yet been charged. Nearly 600 hours of CCTV reveals very little, and there is no evidence whatsoever that the alleged attacks were planned in advance. From the article. I'm praying for the truth, nothing else. Take your abuse elsewhere, friend. A carefully worded and completely misleading comment: "just four are from war-torn countries (Syria and Iraq)" - so were the other 55 native Germans then? Not if all the reports are to be believed. "only 14 are in custody, and nobody has yet been charged" - which also must be wrong - how are the German Police keeping 14 people in custody if they have not been charged? And why is this at all relevant to who committed the crimes, or is she challenging that the crimes took place? The whole article is one of the worse I have ever read (even by your standards). It makes the Sun and Express look impartial and accurate. Deliberately misleading and tries to demonstrate one thing is wrong by citing an irrelevant fact or view (hence we have the attacks in Cologne weren't done by immigrants, because another attack was done by Germans - just completely flawed logic). The grasping at straws flawed logic of a drowning apologist.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 16, 2016 19:11:46 GMT
Not at all considering anyone with internet access doesn't have to rely solely on British media sources to get their news. As for the media blackout, care to explain how the story wasn't in the news until January 5th? Quite staggering in this age of 24 hour news don't you think? David Beckham gets a new tattoo and it's in the press next day, but that's what your average Joe would rather read about I guess... I can't find that many stories from anywhere outside UK/BBC before 4th January (I haven't searched extensively so I might be wrong). Is it possible it took the police four days to find if all the attacks were linked? I mean, the perpetrators are from several different countries, and they may well have been treated as individual attacks to begin with. That's a slightly naive way of looking at it, but that's what certain sections of the media probably prefer, people who'll swallow anything that they're spoonfed. www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/
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Post by boothenboy75 on Feb 16, 2016 20:25:46 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 16, 2016 20:34:13 GMT
A few more filthy pervs further down the page as well, castrate the fuckin lot of them brand them with a P on the forehead and let society sort them out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 1:07:04 GMT
A few more filthy pervs further down the page as well, castrate the fuckin lot of them brand them with a P on the forehead and let society sort them out. I dare say ALF will say they are British as they were born here...Well ALF...Jesus was born in a stable, but he is not a fucking horse. Cunts the lot of em....These paedos I mean, not horses....
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 8:19:46 GMT
A few more filthy pervs further down the page as well, castrate the fuckin lot of them brand them with a P on the forehead and let society sort them out. I dare say ALF will say they are British as they were born here...Well ALF...Jesus was born in a stable, but he is not a fucking horse. Cunts the lot of em....These paedos I mean, not horses.... All sorts of home grown scum paedos, terrorists etc, what are we doing as a society that attributes to this vile behaviour ?, maybe just maybe we are too tolerant towards these minority groups and nut jobs.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 17, 2016 9:19:45 GMT
I can't find that many stories from anywhere outside UK/BBC before 4th January (I haven't searched extensively so I might be wrong). Is it possible it took the police four days to find if all the attacks were linked? I mean, the perpetrators are from several different countries, and they may well have been treated as individual attacks to begin with. That's a slightly naive way of looking at it, but that's what certain sections of the media probably prefer, people who'll swallow anything that they're spoonfed. www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/I haven't been spoonfed anything. I haven't read a single article that suggests the delay in coverage was because of the police failing to see a connection - it only seems plausible to me. As far as I know, there's not much precedent in large scale publix sexual assaults being carried out by what appears to be an organised crime syndicate. For example, I can't imagine when investigating a sexual assault that the normal routine for police would be to look into who the attacker was working with. Sex attackers are normally individualistic and opportunistic. Maybe I have come to the conclusion that there might be a logical reason for the delay, and it's not because the media are scared to call a Muslim a sex attacker. After all, it took them 40-60 years to uncover mass sexual abuse in the Catholic church and the British entertainment industry. Five days looks positively nifty compared to the delay in revealing those crimes.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 10:48:10 GMT
I haven't been spoonfed anything. I haven't read a single article that suggests the delay in coverage was because of the police failing to see a connection - it only seems plausible to me. As far as I know, there's not much precedent in large scale publix sexual assaults being carried out by what appears to be an organised crime syndicate. For example, I can't imagine when investigating a sexual assault that the normal routine for police would be to look into who the attacker was working with. Sex attackers are normally individualistic and opportunistic. Maybe I have come to the conclusion that there might be a logical reason for the delay, and it's not because the media are scared to call a Muslim a sex attacker. After all, it took them 40-60 years to uncover mass sexual abuse in the Catholic church and the British entertainment industry. Five days looks positively nifty compared to the delay in revealing those crimes. Possibly because these sexual assaults took place on mass in public, even the police could not miss what was going on
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Post by metalhead on Feb 17, 2016 11:33:14 GMT
He'll get it as well to be fair.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 12:18:39 GMT
He'll get it as well to be fair. I would put money on that happening
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Post by metalhead on Feb 17, 2016 12:39:02 GMT
He'll get it as well to be fair. I would put money on that happening To be fair, I was shocked at his sentence. To rape 30 young girls and yet get a 22 year sentence? That means each girl was worth less than a year according to the judge. And they wonder why far right groups like the EDL have thousands of members, perhaps because from the outside it looks as though identity politics plays a huge role in the sentencing (and even prosecution) of certain people.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 13:00:57 GMT
I would put money on that happening To be fair, I was shocked at his sentence. To rape 30 young girls and yet get a 22 year sentence? That means each girl was worth less than a year according to the judge. And they wonder why far right groups like the EDL have thousands of members, perhaps because from the outside it looks as though identity politics plays a huge role in the sentencing (and even prosecution) of certain people. Absolutely sickening 30 young lives blighted by this one Muslim pervert alone, we are letting our children down shamefully.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 17, 2016 13:05:31 GMT
To be fair, I was shocked at his sentence. To rape 30 young girls and yet get a 22 year sentence? That means each girl was worth less than a year according to the judge. And they wonder why far right groups like the EDL have thousands of members, perhaps because from the outside it looks as though identity politics plays a huge role in the sentencing (and even prosecution) of certain people. Absolutely sickening 30 young lives blighted by this one Muslim pervert alone, we are letting our children down shamefully. Don't expect it to stop any time soon. You only have to see the Guardian and BBC, how identity politics is literally the most important part of their reporting. I remember after the scandal broke out, while other reports indicated that almost 100% of the men involved were of Pakistani origin, the Guardian and BBC described it as 'groomed by mostly Asian men'. Mostly? Asian? Hold on, so wait, it was Japanese men? Chinese men? No. What's more, when you read Guardian and BBC articles on this, you can tell that the writer is usually grinding his teeth as he writes it, like he doesn't really want to write about it.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 17, 2016 17:17:43 GMT
I haven't been spoonfed anything. I haven't read a single article that suggests the delay in coverage was because of the police failing to see a connection - it only seems plausible to me. As far as I know, there's not much precedent in large scale publix sexual assaults being carried out by what appears to be an organised crime syndicate. For example, I can't imagine when investigating a sexual assault that the normal routine for police would be to look into who the attacker was working with. Sex attackers are normally individualistic and opportunistic. Maybe I have come to the conclusion that there might be a logical reason for the delay, and it's not because the media are scared to call a Muslim a sex attacker. After all, it took them 40-60 years to uncover mass sexual abuse in the Catholic church and the British entertainment industry. Five days looks positively nifty compared to the delay in revealing those crimes. I don't think you can compare the Catholic Church or Operation Yewtree abuse (that was all done surreptitiously, behind closed doors over a number of years), with New Year in Cologne. In Cologne, eyewitnesses described a mob of about 500 men gathered in the square around Cologne Central Station who suddenly threw firecrackers into the people in their immediate vicinity, causing panic and alarm. In the ensuing confusion, this mob then scattered to sexually assault and/or rob numerous people in the area in and around the station. According to witnesses, women were surrounded by about 30 men in same instances. Hardly surreptitious. Now, German media outlets didn't report on any of this until 5th of January (that's why you can't find any stories before this date) and only starting doing so when stories appeared on social media. So, regardless of who the perpetrators were, it's all rather strange that such an event wasn't deemed newsworthy in the local or national media- if it has happened in Hanley, I'd be staggered if there wasn't a spread in The Sentinel, or if it wasn't at least on Midlands News if it had happened in, say, Birmingham. We aren't talking about something that happened behind closed doors, were talking a major incident with eyewitnesses in the city centre. If it was football fans fighting, it would have made the press next day, surely?
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Post by metalhead on Feb 17, 2016 17:20:29 GMT
I haven't been spoonfed anything. I haven't read a single article that suggests the delay in coverage was because of the police failing to see a connection - it only seems plausible to me. As far as I know, there's not much precedent in large scale publix sexual assaults being carried out by what appears to be an organised crime syndicate. For example, I can't imagine when investigating a sexual assault that the normal routine for police would be to look into who the attacker was working with. Sex attackers are normally individualistic and opportunistic. Maybe I have come to the conclusion that there might be a logical reason for the delay, and it's not because the media are scared to call a Muslim a sex attacker. After all, it took them 40-60 years to uncover mass sexual abuse in the Catholic church and the British entertainment industry. Five days looks positively nifty compared to the delay in revealing those crimes. I don't think you can compare the Catholic Church or Operation Yewtree abuse (that was all done surreptitiously, behind closed doors over a number of years), with New Year in Cologne. In Cologne, eyewitnesses described a mob of about 500 men gathered in the square around Cologne Central Station who suddenly threw firecrackers into the people in their immediate vicinity, causing panic and alarm. In the ensuing confusion, this mob then scattered to sexually assault and/or rob numerous people in the area in and around the station. According to witnesses, women were surrounded by about 30 men in same instances. Hardly surreptitious. Now, German media outlets didn't report on any of this until 5th of January (that's why you can't find any stories before this date) and only starting doing so when stories appeared on social media. So, regardless of who the perpetrators were, it's all rather strange that such an event wasn't deemed newsworthy in the local or national media- if it has happened in Hanley, I'd be staggered if there wasn't a spread in The Sentinel, or if it wasn't at least on Midlands News if it had happened in, say, Birmingham. We aren't talking about something that happened behind closed doors, were talking a major incident with eyewitnesses in the city centre. If it was football fans fighting, it would have made the press next day, surely? It's called tahharush
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 18:25:53 GMT
I haven't been spoonfed anything. I haven't read a single article that suggests the delay in coverage was because of the police failing to see a connection - it only seems plausible to me. As far as I know, there's not much precedent in large scale publix sexual assaults being carried out by what appears to be an organised crime syndicate. For example, I can't imagine when investigating a sexual assault that the normal routine for police would be to look into who the attacker was working with. Sex attackers are normally individualistic and opportunistic. Maybe I have come to the conclusion that there might be a logical reason for the delay, and it's not because the media are scared to call a Muslim a sex attacker. After all, it took them 40-60 years to uncover mass sexual abuse in the Catholic church and the British entertainment industry. Five days looks positively nifty compared to the delay in revealing those crimes. I don't think you can compare the Catholic Church or Operation Yewtree abuse (that was all done surreptitiously, behind closed doors over a number of years), with New Year in Cologne. In Cologne, eyewitnesses described a mob of about 500 men gathered in the square around Cologne Central Station who suddenly threw firecrackers into the people in their immediate vicinity, causing panic and alarm. In the ensuing confusion, this mob then scattered to sexually assault and/or rob numerous people in the area in and around the station. According to witnesses, women were surrounded by about 30 men in same instances. Hardly surreptitious. Now, German media outlets didn't report on any of this until 5th of January (that's why you can't find any stories before this date) and only starting doing so when stories appeared on social media. So, regardless of who the perpetrators were, it's all rather strange that such an event wasn't deemed newsworthy in the local or national media- if it has happened in Hanley, I'd be staggered if there wasn't a spread in The Sentinel, or if it wasn't at least on Midlands News if it had happened in, say, Birmingham. We aren't talking about something that happened behind closed doors, were talking a major incident with eyewitnesses in the city centre. If it was football fans fighting, it would have made the press next day, surely? Very poor comparison another apologist excuse not remotely comparable, some people can not or will not see what is going on with these throwbacks.
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Post by themistocles on Feb 17, 2016 18:35:22 GMT
I don't think you can compare the Catholic Church or Operation Yewtree abuse (that was all done surreptitiously, behind closed doors over a number of years), with New Year in Cologne. In Cologne, eyewitnesses described a mob of about 500 men gathered in the square around Cologne Central Station who suddenly threw firecrackers into the people in their immediate vicinity, causing panic and alarm. In the ensuing confusion, this mob then scattered to sexually assault and/or rob numerous people in the area in and around the station. According to witnesses, women were surrounded by about 30 men in same instances. Hardly surreptitious. Now, German media outlets didn't report on any of this until 5th of January (that's why you can't find any stories before this date) and only starting doing so when stories appeared on social media. So, regardless of who the perpetrators were, it's all rather strange that such an event wasn't deemed newsworthy in the local or national media- if it has happened in Hanley, I'd be staggered if there wasn't a spread in The Sentinel, or if it wasn't at least on Midlands News if it had happened in, say, Birmingham. We aren't talking about something that happened behind closed doors, were talking a major incident with eyewitnesses in the city centre. If it was football fans fighting, it would have made the press next day, surely? Very poor comparison another apologist excuse not remotely comparable, some people can not or will not see what is going on with these throwbacks. It's their agenda formed through sheltered lives and looking through rainbow tinted glasses. Don't worry,they'll surely wake up when soon.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 17, 2016 18:56:57 GMT
I haven't been spoonfed anything. I haven't read a single article that suggests the delay in coverage was because of the police failing to see a connection - it only seems plausible to me. As far as I know, there's not much precedent in large scale publix sexual assaults being carried out by what appears to be an organised crime syndicate. For example, I can't imagine when investigating a sexual assault that the normal routine for police would be to look into who the attacker was working with. Sex attackers are normally individualistic and opportunistic. Maybe I have come to the conclusion that there might be a logical reason for the delay, and it's not because the media are scared to call a Muslim a sex attacker. After all, it took them 40-60 years to uncover mass sexual abuse in the Catholic church and the British entertainment industry. Five days looks positively nifty compared to the delay in revealing those crimes. I don't think you can compare the Catholic Church or Operation Yewtree abuse (that was all done surreptitiously, behind closed doors over a number of years), with New Year in Cologne. In Cologne, eyewitnesses described a mob of about 500 men gathered in the square around Cologne Central Station who suddenly threw firecrackers into the people in their immediate vicinity, causing panic and alarm. In the ensuing confusion, this mob then scattered to sexually assault and/or rob numerous people in the area in and around the station. According to witnesses, women were surrounded by about 30 men in same instances. Hardly surreptitious. Now, German media outlets didn't report on any of this until 5th of January (that's why you can't find any stories before this date) and only starting doing so when stories appeared on social media. So, regardless of who the perpetrators were, it's all rather strange that such an event wasn't deemed newsworthy in the local or national media- if it has happened in Hanley, I'd be staggered if there wasn't a spread in The Sentinel, or if it wasn't at least on Midlands News if it had happened in, say, Birmingham. We aren't talking about something that happened behind closed doors, were talking a major incident with eyewitnesses in the city centre. If it was football fans fighting, it would have made the press next day, surely? Having done a bit more digging, here's two stories written in local Cologne newspapers on 1st January: www.express.de/koeln/silvesternacht-hauptbahnhof--junge-frauen-sexuell-belaestigt-23251504www.rundschau-online.de/koeln/unruhige-silvesternacht-in-koeln-frauen-am-hauptbahnhof-belaestigt---beinahe-massenpanik-am-dom,15185496,33045320.html Plenty of people knew about celebrities noncing about in the 60s and 70s, yet no-one did fuck all. Maybe they didn't know the scale of it but they certainly knew certain people were up this sort of stuff. One thing I do agree on is that if it happened in Birmingham, it would be all over our news very quickly. Which has confused me - because I thought you were arguing that there is a British media cover up on the Cologne attacks? Or are you only saying the German media covered it up?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 17, 2016 18:58:45 GMT
I don't think you can compare the Catholic Church or Operation Yewtree abuse (that was all done surreptitiously, behind closed doors over a number of years), with New Year in Cologne. In Cologne, eyewitnesses described a mob of about 500 men gathered in the square around Cologne Central Station who suddenly threw firecrackers into the people in their immediate vicinity, causing panic and alarm. In the ensuing confusion, this mob then scattered to sexually assault and/or rob numerous people in the area in and around the station. According to witnesses, women were surrounded by about 30 men in same instances. Hardly surreptitious. Now, German media outlets didn't report on any of this until 5th of January (that's why you can't find any stories before this date) and only starting doing so when stories appeared on social media. So, regardless of who the perpetrators were, it's all rather strange that such an event wasn't deemed newsworthy in the local or national media- if it has happened in Hanley, I'd be staggered if there wasn't a spread in The Sentinel, or if it wasn't at least on Midlands News if it had happened in, say, Birmingham. We aren't talking about something that happened behind closed doors, were talking a major incident with eyewitnesses in the city centre. If it was football fans fighting, it would have made the press next day, surely? Very poor comparison another apologist excuse not remotely comparable, some people can not or will not see what is going on with these throwbacks. What am I apologising for? Actually, where have I apologised for anything?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 17, 2016 19:05:56 GMT
Very poor comparison another apologist excuse not remotely comparable, some people can not or will not see what is going on with these throwbacks. It's their agenda formed through sheltered lives and looking through rainbow tinted glasses. Don't worry,they'll surely wake up when soon. Yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe anyone offering an opinion that isn't from the right must be sheltered. Whenever I meet someone who is anti-immigration I normally can't get over how broad and open minded they are.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 19:32:56 GMT
Very poor comparison another apologist excuse not remotely comparable, some people can not or will not see what is going on with these throwbacks. What am I apologising for? Actually, where have I apologised for anything? The general tone of your posts suggests that you are indeed an apologist, let's see how things pan out in Germany with mass immigration thanks to Merkel, let's hope we do not let them flood into the UK this will end in tears these immigrants have no respect for western values or morals, the whole situation reeks of a disaster in the making many of these migrants are illegals and should be treated as such.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 17, 2016 19:38:41 GMT
Very poor comparison another apologist excuse not remotely comparable, some people can not or will not see what is going on with these throwbacks. What am I apologising for? Actually, where have I apologised for anything? You haven't you're simply offering an alternative opinion which in Crapslinger's world is tantamount to heresy.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 19:54:29 GMT
What am I apologising for? Actually, where have I apologised for anything? You haven't you're simply offering an alternative opinion which in Crapslinger's world is tantamount to heresy. And here he is the biggest apologist on the board, hooked again Sir knew you would not be able to resist the bait ALF
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 17, 2016 20:44:58 GMT
You haven't you're simply offering an alternative opinion which in Crapslinger's world is tantamount to heresy. And here he is the biggest apologist on the board, hooked again Sir knew you would not be able to resist the bait ALF Don't flatter yourself, sunshine. I was posting about you not to you. Get it? Probably not, as usual.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 22:19:46 GMT
And here he is the biggest apologist on the board, hooked again Sir knew you would not be able to resist the bait ALF Don't flatter yourself, sunshine. I was posting about you not to you. Get it? Probably not, as usual. Really Sir you really must do better, hook line and keep net as usual, this is getting boring now I have bigger fish to fry.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 17, 2016 22:24:08 GMT
Don't flatter yourself, sunshine. I was posting about you not to you. Get it? Probably not, as usual. Really Sir you really must do better, hook line and keep net as usual, this is getting boring now I have bigger fish to fry. A piss poor effort at a reply which took you 2 hours to put together. Thicker than a whale omelette.... you.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2016 22:40:01 GMT
Very poor comparison another apologist excuse not remotely comparable, some people can not or will not see what is going on with these throwbacks. It's their agenda formed through sheltered lives and looking through rainbow tinted glasses. Don't worry,they'll surely wake up when soon. They will never wake they are so entrenched in their apologist agendas, brainwashed left wing do good doers sleepwalking into oblivion hand in hand with Jezza and his Marxist nut jobs.
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Post by yeswilko on Feb 17, 2016 23:02:00 GMT
Sadly , these are minimum figures not maximum . As you can read and see on the other thread there are tens of thousands more prepared to risk their lives for the benefits system we have . The word 'illegal' is sadly missed by many . If we ever do manage to conquer these deficiencies in our border security , then I fear it will be too little , too late. Sickening is it not Carps and still no arrests I wonder why that could be , we need to stop all benefits including the free use of the NHS for migrants, I am moving to Lanzarote next year I am entitled to nothing from the Spanish state and quite rightly so I will have to pay for health care etc. why should it be any different here, stop the benefits and Calais will have no immigration problems within a month. This is an issue of our own making we need to sort it out nobody else. Charity begins at home our own people should come first after all we pay for it. You are the exact type of poisonous scum we need to get rid of to let the migrants gave a home
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Post by nietzsche on Feb 17, 2016 23:03:23 GMT
Women are second class citizens in Islam. Young, white women are considered promiscuous. Homosexuals are not recognised, deserving of death, if it were allowed. Having dogs as pets is a complete no no. So it is okay to tolerate the intolerant. We should accept and embrace the culture eh?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 17, 2016 23:19:07 GMT
What am I apologising for? Actually, where have I apologised for anything? The general tone of your posts suggests that you are indeed an apologist, let's see how things pan out in Germany with mass immigration thanks to Merkel, let's hope we do not let them flood into the UK this will end in tears these immigrants have no respect for western values or morals, the whole situation reeks of a disaster in the making many of these migrants are illegals and should be treated as such. Again, what am I supposed to be apologising for? It's a genuine question - I can't respond if I don't know what I'm supposed to be condoning.
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