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Post by djduncanjames on Dec 14, 2015 22:59:53 GMT
Knowing Woy he'd take Crouchy over Vardy
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2015 23:27:53 GMT
Solid 6/10 tonight.
Mahrez and Kante, now they are players! Absolutely excellent.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2015 23:29:00 GMT
He was average at best tonight. Good finish but he didn't do much otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 23:35:09 GMT
That bares very little relevance to any of the points I have made and that is why I said 'when he is fit.' That is because the whole point of my argument has been from the very start that if all striking options are available Vardy should not be heading to France. If for example Sturridge and maybe another is injured Vardy would be a welcome replacement. Sturridge has done absolutely nothing to merit his inclusion in that squad. Vardy has done more than enough. Woy will go with you. Doesn't make it right. Hahaha absolutely nothing, are you sure? Have you seen his record for Liverpool and watched him play over the past few years? Did you watch the game against Southampton a few weeks ago? He is a proven and consistent talent. The guy is lethal albeit his injury problems are not a massive issue. Vardy has been on fire for a few months man!
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Dec 14, 2015 23:36:25 GMT
He was average at best tonight. Good finish but he didn't do much otherwise. That's often the sign of a top striker. To go unnoticed but still score goals. Steino had days like that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2015 23:39:11 GMT
He was average at best tonight. Good finish but he didn't do much otherwise. That's often the sign of a top striker. To go unnoticed but still score goals. Steino had days like that. It is an excellent trait to have I agree, no arguments there.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Dec 14, 2015 23:51:38 GMT
That's often the sign of a top striker. To go unnoticed but still score goals. Steino had days like that. It is an excellent trait to have I agree, no arguments there. With regards to the teams, everybody is just wondering or predicting where the 2 teams will finish. Leicester show no signs of stopping, whilst Chelsea are hopelessly blundering on. I'll stick my prediction on here... Leicester to finish 4th Chelsea to finish 12th And our boys to finish 8th Arsenal Champions Villa..Norwich..Swansea relegated And Stoke win the League Cup !!
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Post by spongebobflathead on Dec 14, 2015 23:57:37 GMT
I will have a pop
Man city champions Leicester 7th Chelsea 8th Stoke 9th
Relegation villa , Norwich , Swansea
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 15, 2015 0:26:52 GMT
Vardy is playing like god.
To score as many goals as he has for a mediocre team like Leicester shows what a lethal player he has become. To suggest, as some are doing, that he is a poor, or average player is absolute bollocks.
If he was playing for us we would be top and 5 points, or more, clear.
15 goals in 16 games for Leicester for fuck's sake. He may not do it again but while he is doing it give credit where its due. To pick an England side without him as first choice up front would beggar belief right now.
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Post by whydelilah on Dec 15, 2015 7:05:08 GMT
He was average at best tonight. Good finish but he didn't do much otherwise. If we'd have had an average forward against West Ham on Saturday we'd have taken 3 points instead of 1.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 7:37:19 GMT
Anybody (Bayern and Humphrey) who says that Vardy shouldn't go to the Euros is talking through their arse.
If he was playing up front for us and banging in the goals he is now,everyone on here would be banging his drum.
You would seriously not take the top goalscorer to a major tournament?
Just goes to show that your average football fan knows fuck all about football.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 15, 2015 8:39:44 GMT
Anybody (Bayern and Humphrey) who says that Vardy shouldn't go to the Euros is talking through their arse. If he was playing up front for us and banging in the goals he is now,everyone on here would be banging his drum. You would seriously not take the top goalscorer to a major tournament? Just goes to show that your average football fan knows fuck all about football. Yet another deemed not good enough for Stoke. It's getting to be a long list.
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Post by Northy on Dec 15, 2015 8:43:19 GMT
Sturridge has done absolutely nothing to merit his inclusion in that squad. Vardy has done more than enough. Woy will go with you. Doesn't make it right. Hahaha absolutely nothing, are you sure? Have you seen his record for Liverpool and watched him play over the past few years? Did you watch the game against Southampton a few weeks ago? He is a proven and consistent talent. The guy is lethal albeit his injury problems are not a massive issue. Vardy has been on fire for a few months man! I'd say his injury problems ARE a massive issue, you cannot rely on him to last more than a few games, summer tournament football would be a real risk for him
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 15, 2015 9:20:28 GMT
This thread does show who the stubborn know-nothings are.
Vardy is on fire and the 2nd top scorer in all of Europes top leagues.
He should play for England ahead of Rooney Sturridge and Kane, if the Championships are being held now.
If he continues the season this way he will end up with 30 goals and completely on fire. He could just be what we need come the summer with his pace and finishing
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Post by fca47 on Dec 15, 2015 9:29:31 GMT
This thread does show who the stubborn know-nothings are. Vardy is on fire and the 2nd top scorer in all of Europes top leagues. He should play for England ahead of Rooney Sturridge and Kane, if the Championships are being held now. If he continues the season this way he will end up with 30 goals and completely on fire. He could just be what we need come the summer with his pace and finishing Don't know that he would suit us, we don't get the ball down the middle quickly enough, we have a similar player in Diouf but we don't use his ability to get through the middle with pace. We always go wide.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 9:32:58 GMT
Re. Vardy and England. When was the last time England played with a front two, which allows him to play front facing a la Leicester and would he adapt to having to play with his back to goal, more often than not, at the highest level against the very best?
They are the questions that need to be asked.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 15, 2015 9:44:19 GMT
This thread does show who the stubborn know-nothings are. Vardy is on fire and the 2nd top scorer in all of Europes top leagues. He should play for England ahead of Rooney Sturridge and Kane, if the Championships are being held now. If he continues the season this way he will end up with 30 goals and completely on fire. He could just be what we need come the summer with his pace and finishing Don't know that he would suit us, we don't get the ball down the middle quickly enough, we have a similar player in Diouf but we don't use his ability to get through the middle with pace. We always go wide. We used the ability twice inside 15 minutes on Saturday. He fluffed his lines both times
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Post by fca47 on Dec 15, 2015 10:04:30 GMT
Don't know that he would suit us, we don't get the ball down the middle quickly enough, we have a similar player in Diouf but we don't use his ability to get through the middle with pace. We always go wide. We used the ability twice inside 15 minutes on Saturday. He fluffed his lines both times He did , but maybe lack of playing time, and also the alternative didn't work either.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 15, 2015 10:07:14 GMT
We used the ability twice inside 15 minutes on Saturday. He fluffed his lines both times He did , but maybe lack of playing time, and also the alternative didn't work either. Dont get me wrong, I like diouf. Without doubt, had those chances fallen to Vardy we'd have been celebrating another 3 points. Vardy is on fire and its a joy to see.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 15, 2015 10:17:01 GMT
This thread does show who the stubborn know-nothings are. Vardy is on fire and the 2nd top scorer in all of Europes top leagues. He should play for England ahead of Rooney Sturridge and Kane, if the Championships are being held now. If he continues the season this way he will end up with 30 goals and completely on fire. He could just be what we need come the summer with his pace and finishing Don't know that he would suit us, we don't get the ball down the middle quickly enough, we have a similar player in Diouf but we don't use his ability to get through the middle with pace. We always go wide. I was talking about England as us
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Post by whydelilah on Dec 15, 2015 10:29:56 GMT
You should all stop trying to make sense of bayernoatcake 's nonsense. One day he's banging the drum about our lack of goals and how big of an issue it is (and it definitely is a significant problem) and then the next day he completely refuses to give credit or acclaim for a striker who is banging them in for fun. Diouf, Walters, Joselu, Arnie, Bojan, Shaqiri, Affelay - our complete squad between them has only mustered 13 premier league goals between them. Jamie Vardy alone has 15 to his name. It really is a remarkable achievement and nothing about it computes to "he really is shit". The prem has seen some talented forwards over the years. Aguero, Henry, Rooney, Torres, Van Nistlerooy, Suarez - and none have them managed to achieve what Vardy just has. I'm in no way comparing him to those players mentioned but it does put into perspective the magnitude of the recent record he broke. The arguments about whether you'd spend 30 million on him in the summer or whether he should be in the England squad are completely irrelevant. The point is, the statement "he really is shit" has been proven to be complete and utter arse gravy and the poster who made the ridiculous statement refuses to back down and admit he fucked up. That's the problem when you are so definitive (and premature) in your assassinations of an individual players ability (or lack thereof). It often comes back to shoot you in the foot and makes you look a complete arse (Wollscheid anyone?). The simple fact is - Jamie Vardy is proving himself to be every bit the top flight striker. It's taken him a few years to work his way to the top but he's finally here and there comes a point where you have to accept it simply isn't form anymore and that ability is the main contributing factor. The goal a game ratio will obviously not continue forever, and I'm sure some will jump straight on his back the moment he goes 3 or 4 games without a goal, but he doesn't have to maintain his current Ronaldo/Messi-esque ratio to be a very good top flight striker. He could score 10 more between now and the end of the season and it would still be an outstanding return and more than enough to take him to the Euros. "He really is shit" really is a load of shit.
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Post by metalhead on Dec 15, 2015 10:56:58 GMT
Vardy is playing like god. To score as many goals as he has for a mediocre team like Leicester shows what a lethal player he has become. To suggest, as some are doing, that he is a poor, or average player is absolute bollocks. If he was playing for us we would be top and 5 points, or more, clear. 15 goals in 16 games for Leicester for fuck's sake. He may not do it again but while he is doing it give credit where its due. To pick an England side without him as first choice up front would beggar belief right now. He's hit a purple patch, that's for sure, but I'm not convinced he'll keep it up.
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Post by Bombus on Dec 15, 2015 11:03:03 GMT
Vardy is playing like god. To score as many goals as he has for a mediocre team like Leicester shows what a lethal player he has become. To suggest, as some are doing, that he is a poor, or average player is absolute bollocks. If he was playing for us we would be top and 5 points, or more, clear. 15 goals in 16 games for Leicester for fuck's sake. He may not do it again but while he is doing it give credit where its due. To pick an England side without him as first choice up front would beggar belief right now. Spot on that, lad.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 15, 2015 11:10:09 GMT
Anybody (Bayern and Humphrey) who says that Vardy shouldn't go to the Euros is talking through their arse. If he was playing up front for us and banging in the goals he is now,everyone on here would be banging his drum. You would seriously not take the top goalscorer to a major tournament? Just goes to show that your average football fan knows fuck all about football. We're not though are we? The others are better players. The others stand more of a chance of going. I don't think Roy will either if those listed are fit. There's not a cats in hell chance he goes if Kane, Rooney, Sturridge and Welbeck are fit, not a chance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 15, 2015 11:13:05 GMT
You should all stop trying to make sense of bayernoatcake 's nonsense. One day he's banging the drum about our lack of goals and how big of an issue it is (and it definitely is a significant problem) and then the next day he completely refuses to give credit or acclaim for a striker who is banging them in for fun. Diouf, Walters, Joselu, Arnie, Bojan, Shaqiri, Affelay - our complete squad between them has only mustered 13 premier league goals between them. Jamie Vardy alone has 15 to his name. It really is a remarkable achievement and nothing about it computes to "he really is shit". The prem has seen some talented forwards over the years. Aguero, Henry, Rooney, Torres, Van Nistlerooy, Suarez - and none have them managed to achieve what Vardy just has. I'm in no way comparing him to those players mentioned but it does put into perspective the magnitude of the recent record he broke. The arguments about whether you'd spend 30 million on him in the summer or whether he should be in the England squad are completely irrelevant. The point is, the statement "he really is shit" has been proven to be complete and utter arse gravy and the poster who made the ridiculous statement refuses to back down and admit he fucked up. That's the problem when you are so definitive (and premature) in your assassinations of an individual players ability (or lack thereof). It often comes back to shoot you in the foot and makes you look a complete arse (Wollscheid anyone?). The simple fact is - Jamie Vardy is proving himself to be every bit the top flight striker. It's taken him a few years to work his way to the top but he's finally here and there comes a point where you have to accept it simply isn't form anymore and that ability is the main contributing factor. The goal a game ratio will obviously not continue forever, and I'm sure some will jump straight on his back the moment he goes 3 or 4 games without a goal, but he doesn't have to maintain his current Ronaldo/Messi-esque ratio to be a very good top flight striker. He could score 10 more between now and the end of the season and it would still be an outstanding return and more than enough to take him to the Euros. "He really is shit" really is a load of shit. He's in good form but I don't think he's a good player. What's so hard to understand about that? I don't think it has, he's not a very good footballer! Why would I back down when I think he's still shit?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 11:32:12 GMT
Anybody (Bayern and Humphrey) who says that Vardy shouldn't go to the Euros is talking through their arse. If he was playing up front for us and banging in the goals he is now,everyone on here would be banging his drum. You would seriously not take the top goalscorer to a major tournament? Just goes to show that your average football fan knows fuck all about football. We're not though are we? The others are better players. The others stand more of a chance of going. I don't think Roy will either if those listed are fit. There's not a cats in hell chance he goes if Kane, Rooney, Sturridge and Welbeck are fit, not a chance. As it stands he is playing better and scoring more goals than every other English striker. Hodgson has already shown that he isn't afraid to use him so if he carries on this form until the end of the season he will go,regardless of who is fit or who isn't. You can bang on about better players all you like and you might have a point where some of them are concerned,but form counts for a lot and if Vardy continues to score for fun he would be a far better bet than Sturridge or Wellbeck who have played less football than me in the last 12 months.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 15, 2015 11:36:33 GMT
We're not though are we? The others are better players. The others stand more of a chance of going. I don't think Roy will either if those listed are fit. There's not a cats in hell chance he goes if Kane, Rooney, Sturridge and Welbeck are fit, not a chance. As it stands he is playing better and scoring more goals than every other English striker. Hodgson has already shown that he isn't afraid to use him so if he carries on this form until the end of the season he will go,regardless of who is fit or who isn't. You can bang on about better players all you like and you might have a point where some of them are concerned,but form counts for a lot and if Vardy continues to score for fun he would be a far better bet than Sturridge or Wellbeck who have played less football than me in the last 12 months. And that doesn't really matter. If you can't see that you've ignored years of the way the England national team has been selected. Hodgson has been massively reluctant to use him. He's only there because of injury as it is. Form doesn't count for a lot, it counts for something, it's what's put him in the pool but that's it. I know who I'd rather come on if it was between them 3 and Vardy is third choice. I think Roy would feel the same especially with Welbeck. He trusts Welbeck implicitly. I don't think he trusts Sturridge mind which is fair based on his England performances.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 12:18:47 GMT
Hahaha absolutely nothing, are you sure? Have you seen his record for Liverpool and watched him play over the past few years? Did you watch the game against Southampton a few weeks ago? He is a proven and consistent talent. The guy is lethal albeit his injury problems are not a massive issue. Vardy has been on fire for a few months man! I'd say his injury problems ARE a massive issue, you cannot rely on him to last more than a few games, summer tournament football would be a real risk for him I did mean they are a massive issue sorry, do not know where that 'not' came from. If Sturridge is fit for that first game against Russia, he plays though. I bet Gary Neville would think exactly the same as well. That Southampton game showed how lethal he can be even despite coming back from injury and he has also been picking up goals in the league when he has played. The guy is class. Who can honestly saying Vardy is a class player? Or is he a decent player playing like a class player?
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Dec 15, 2015 12:25:35 GMT
I think Sturridge needs too many chances at international level. He's clearly not in the same class as Suarez who had 2 half chances against us and scored 2. In my opinion he needs to be quicker getting his shot away.
Good player though and would expect him to start upfront if he's fit and has some form. Also think Vardy can play a part in the tournament. Form and confidence count for a lot. If any striker scores 5 or 6 goals in a tournament, their team is in with a chance of winning it.
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Post by potterblade on Dec 15, 2015 14:21:07 GMT
Bloke with 80,000 posts cant admit he's wrong shocker!
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