PES 2016 reviews - "Best football game ever" (IGN 9.5)

[Nick1984]

Fundamental Changes: New significant improvements across key modes and features.
New Master League – The famous and hugely popular Master League enjoys a total revamp, allowing users to immerse themselves in the managerial world of soccer. Every element has been redesigned or reworked, from the vibrant and involving menus to the new and exciting player transfer system, PES 2016 see one of the series most integral modes redefine the single-player experience.

New Visuals – Incorporating the many advancements of the Fox Engine, the visuals have seen a huge upgrade. See the rain splash as players slide in to win possession, or the turf kick up as you strike the ball into the top corner. New night-time lighting and real turf textures are among some of the many improvements.

Dynamic Weather – For the first time in the PES series, dynamic weather has been introduced, with the chance of rain starting during the game. Combined with the ever more realistic ball physics, the rain changes how the game can be played with passes speeding up, and less skilled players likely to struggle with trapping. The defender taken by the 1-on-1 will also be more likely to slip and fall due to incorrect studs or blades. This feature is applied to all offline modes including the Master League, and is an important element to decide the outcome of the match.

Human Motion – Seeking to humanize player movement, 3x new animations have been added to bring the in-game superstars to life. Goalkeepers have seen an abundance of save animations added, while outfield players shoot, pass, dribble and tackle with incredible variety depending on the situation. Players complain when a foul isn't given, or lament a teammate when a pass isn't made when in open space. The new 1v1 control also benefits from this, with players being able to fool their opponents with shimmies and feints that can result in causing the opposing player to lose his balance and fall in the wrong direction!

New Ball Physics – The past few years has seen the series make huge advancements in ball physics, and for PES 2016 new levels of realism have been reached. Each spin, bobble and ricochet has been calculated using real ball physic data, helping keep every moment in every game unique and unpredictable.

Quality Improvements – Many important elements are upgraded per fan feedback.
myClub – Since the launch of the mode in PES 2015, myClub has been updated on a weekly basis, and has been further improved based on user feedback for PES 2016. The enhancement will introduce player level systems, and players exclusive to the mode. Use GP acquired through matches or myClub coins to experience realistic club management combined with players to strive to be stronger in your squad. Choose the manager, consider coaches, and build the strategy based on what you aim with your team. Build Your Team, Create Your legacy!

Dynamic Wide Camera Angle – The new angle gives you a larger field of vision, allowing you to better plan and adjust your players to compete in aerial battles, or see the intelligent runs being made thanks to Intelligent Player AI. Depending on where the ball is on the pitch, the camera will tilt and pan accordingly to make sure the user has the best view possible during the match.

Commentary – New commentators have been introduced for both UK and Germany, with Peter Drury and Marco Hagemann joining the PES team. A wealth of new lines and specific stories have been recorded dedicated for Master League, responding to player transfers, player growth and team performance.

PS4 Image Importing – Edit mode is synonymous with the PES series, and further updates have been made to this hugely popular mode. PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3 users are now able to import images into the game, thus perfectly replicating any team kit or emblem the user wishes - including managers.

[pricey21]

Can't wait!

[Nick1984]

Perfection

[boskampsflaps]

Any does that keepy-uppy shit against me that it shows at the end is getting snapped

[pricey21]

Jun 12, 2015 16:08:19 GMT Nick1984 said:

Perfection

That looks awesome. I've heard people with the PS4 version may be able to somehow import images for the kits, badges etc. Can't wait play master league.

[Nick1984]

Jun 12, 2015 20:13:59 GMT pricey21 said:

That looks awesome. I've heard people with the PS4 version may be able to somehow import images for the kits, badges etc. Can't wait play master league.

That's correct, the community can create authentic kits in edit mode and share them online.

[Deleted]

No licensing for the Premier League so yet again I won't buy it

[Nick1984]

Jun 14, 2015 14:22:57 GMT @iwebbyyy said:

No licensing for the Premier League so yet again I won't buy it

You can download a kit patch for PES which gives you all the official kits.



"•PS4 Image Importing – Edit mode is synonymous with the PES series, and further updates have been made to this hugely popular mode. PlayStation®4 and PlayStation®3 users are now able to import images into the game, thus perfectly replicating any team kit or emblem the user wishes - including managers."

[Deleted]

Jun 14, 2015 14:31:25 GMT Nick1984 said:

Jun 14, 2015 14:22:57 GMT @iwebbyyy said:

No licensing for the Premier League so yet again I won't buy it

You can download a kit patch for PES which gives you all the official kits.



"•PS4 Image Importing – Edit mode is synonymous with the PES series, and further updates have been made to this hugely popular mode. PlayStation®4 and PlayStation®3 users are now able to import images into the game, thus perfectly replicating any team kit or emblem the user wishes - including managers."

Fair enough they are bob on! 
Still FIFA has the Brittania scanned in totally and most the player's faces scanned in too so that'll turn it for me. PES looks good and the gameplay was a bit better then FIFA's last year

[Nick1984]

Jun 14, 2015 14:57:30 GMT @iwebbyyy said:

PES looks good and the gameplay was a bit better then FIFA's last year

I just find FIFA unplayable though.

The positioning and awareness of your team mates is a joke, the fact that you have to keep tapping L1 to get one of them to move into space shows how bad it is.

Dribbling is too responsive to feel realistic, even when sprinting it's far too easy for players to turn on a dime, unlike PES...



Coupled in with the shit defending matches feel more like basketball games, there's no midfield or build up play.

Then there's the presentation, all the licences go to waste when the players walk onto the like a cross between robots and someone suffering from piles. Once you kick off the players move more like string puppets than real people like you see in PES.

FIFA has started this gen like PES started the last one, two completely awful games. I always used to get ISS/PES on PS1/PS2, then switched to FIFA for PS3. Went back to PES on PS4 last year, it'll take something amazing to make me buy another FIFA.

[likelyladgalizmo]

Looks like its going back to its roots. I still play on PES 11 love edit mode.

[prudhoe]

I will never ever even consider buying PES until they have all 4 English league's officially licensed. I don't care how many patches there are out there. I want to buy a game, not build the sodding thing myself.

[agingerstokie]

Think I'll invest in PES this year

[Nick1984]

"A generational leap for football games"

www.videogamer.com/ps4/pes_2016/preview-3908.html

Never has a new PES been this good this early. In my review of PES 2015 I said it was inches away from being the best football game of all time. Barring total disaster, PES 2016 will take that title.

[foster]

Neither for me. Not gonna keep paying for a new game each year for barely recognisable (revolutionary) changes and updated squads.

Should just be able to purchase a less expensive update file.

[StokieNath]

Dosent look bad at all like.

[2004]

Licensing means I will stick to FIFA

[fiddlerx]

Jun 17, 2015 22:53:15 GMT prudhoe said:

I will never ever even consider buying PES until they have all 4 English league's officially licensed. I don't care how many patches there are out there. I want to buy a game, not build the sodding thing myself.

If game building takes a single download from an option file then you my friend are a genius

[fiddlerx]

Licensing is the main issue for most players however option files have been confirmed which is great news PES is certainly making a comeback

[santy]

Don't we have this thread every year about how PES is actually, finally making its comeback to the top after the previous years false dawn?

[Nick1984]

What was wrong with PES 2015? It was certainly better than FIFA 15.

[santy]

The animations try to hide it but it still looks very much like it only has 8 directional movement when you actually see how the player is moving. Neither particularly impresses me because the whole underlying system is flawed with attributes mostly being cosmetic as the AI has no way of actually utilising any attributes which ought to affect movement of AI controlled players. Both suffer from the same fact that pace is the only relevant attribute, the assisting mechanism both games have is in no way gauged by a players ability but arbitrarily imposes mistakes like over or under hitting the ball to compensate for this.

[LGH87]

Jul 18, 2015 17:17:54 GMT santy said:

The animations try to hide it but it still looks very much like it only has 8 directional movement when you actually see how the player is moving. Neither particularly impresses me because the whole underlying system is flawed with attributes mostly being cosmetic as the AI has no way of actually utilising any attributes which ought to affect movement of AI controlled players. Both suffer from the same fact that pace is the only relevant attribute, the assisting mechanism both games have is in no way gauged by a players ability but arbitrarily imposes mistakes like over or under hitting the ball to compensate for this.

You've put it in to words a lot better than I ever could Santy, but this is the exact reason why I gave up on football games a few years ago.

Difficulty levels also ruin football games, because it makes the teams and player stats irrelevant.

Both Fifa & PES need a year or two out and completely remake their games from scratch. They could release a downloadable patch at the start of each season whilst they are away to update the current games with transfers, kits etc.

They will never do this though, because no matter what shite they churn out year on year they know it will be one of the biggest selling games of the year.

What we really need is for a game to come out of nowhere and challenge both FIFA & PES

[prudhoe]

Jul 17, 2015 23:09:44 GMT fiddlerx said:

Jun 17, 2015 22:53:15 GMT prudhoe said:

I will never ever even consider buying PES until they have all 4 English league's officially licensed. I don't care how many patches there are out there. I want to buy a game, not build the sodding thing myself.

If game building takes a single download from an option file then you my friend are a genius

So are you telling me that with a single click from an options file then i can have all 4 English division clubs licensed? Have a full career with all the divisions where i can take a team up from League 2 to the Prem? Have FA Cup, League Cup, Johnston's Paint Trophy, Europa and Champions league ( admittedly under a different name) games throughout the season? And have all of the Premier League stadiums? Only when PES ticks all these boxes will I ever consider buying it.

[Nick1984]

Demo comes out next Thursday

[Nick1984]

[Nick1984]

Demo's available for download

[stokebloke]

Thanks for the heads up.

[justlookin]

Gave the demo a go. As I do every year. FIFA is far from perfect but at least it's fun. It takes so long to actually get a success attack. It's like watching arsenal pass it around in their own half for 5 minutes. So boring. Plus no commentary, Martin Tyler and Alan smith get repetitive but it's not right.

Konami should spend more time in the gameplay than graphics and it might be more fun.

[Rick Grimes]

Didn't like the demo and the graphics are cartoony.