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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on May 27, 2015 9:24:40 GMT
Have I missed something, N'Zonzi as far as I am aware has not indicated that he wants to leave,(on the contrary he's indicated he wishes to stay) some on here need to chill out a bit and enjoy the moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 10:30:08 GMT
We'd have to spend big to replace N'zonzi in the event he was to leave.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 10:34:29 GMT
I would like to see this thread taken out and buried without trace
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Post by upthefud on Oct 24, 2015 6:14:53 GMT
Everyone's thoughts still the same then?
Adam has been excellent in recent weeks, one of the big reasons for our upturn in form.
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Post by nonameface on Oct 24, 2015 6:27:12 GMT
Everyone's thoughts still the same then? Adam has been excellent in recent weeks, one of the big reasons for our upturn in form. Wouldn't go as far as to say that, however his last performance was the most disciplined I've seen him play and if he continues like that we may finally have a decent centre mdfield partnership again
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 24, 2015 6:35:48 GMT
I think it's a bit early to be getting the bunting out and hailing Adam as the answer.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 24, 2015 7:44:36 GMT
I think it's a bit early to be getting the bunting out and hailing Adam as the answer. It is fair to say we've seen a different side to Charlie Adam's game so far this season. Not a single goal conceded whilst he's been on the pitch this season.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2015 7:50:04 GMT
I think it's a bit early to be getting the bunting out and hailing Adam as the answer. Yeah he may not be the answer as such but he's certainly the solution for now, Rob.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 24, 2015 7:52:30 GMT
I think it's a bit early to be getting the bunting out and hailing Adam as the answer. Yeah he may not be the answer as such but he's certainly the solution for now, Rob. He's doing great. He'll score today. Get your money on it
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2015 7:52:10 GMT
Everyone's thoughts still the same then? Adam has been excellent in recent weeks, one of the big reasons for our upturn in form. It was a very good shout mate. Most including myself (even as a massive Adam fan) couldn't really see it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2015 7:53:58 GMT
Yeah he may not be the answer as such but he's certainly the solution for now, Rob. He's doing great. He'll score today. Get your money on it I may well do dave. Is that stat right about Adam btw?
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2015 7:54:38 GMT
Playing deeper has taken away (or at least significantly reduced) his obvious goal threat but I think he's been excellent. Experienced, can read the game and can use the ball well.
I just worry about his fitness, especially after around an hour.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 24, 2015 7:54:47 GMT
Everyone's thoughts still the same then? Adam has been excellent in recent weeks, one of the big reasons for our upturn in form. It was a very good shout mate. Most including myself (even as a massive Adam fan) couldn't really see it. He's a leader as well, something we seem to lack according to some luminaries in the press.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 24, 2015 7:55:55 GMT
He's doing great. He'll score today. Get your money on it I may well do dave. Is that stat right about Adam btw? It sure is.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 24, 2015 7:56:18 GMT
I think it's a bit early to be getting the bunting out and hailing Adam as the answer. Yeah he may not be the answer as such but he's certainly the solution for now, Rob. He's worth his place at the moment, absolutely. It's way too early to be saying 'Steven who' based on three decent games though.
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Post by samba :) on Oct 24, 2015 7:57:13 GMT
It was a very good shout mate. Most including myself (even as a massive Adam fan) couldn't really see it. He's a leader as well, something we seem to lack according to some luminaries in the press. ignore the press the press said garry monk wasn't in training in the week and the club pictured him in training
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Post by Roy Cropper on Oct 24, 2015 7:58:57 GMT
Massively surprised me.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 24, 2015 8:03:36 GMT
Would anyone else agree that Adam could step into his role? I'm struggling to find a completely like for like midfielder and Adam has proved his worth. I think you have seen your point largely proven judging by recent performances. Stoke definitely look threatening going forward with Adam and Bojan. My concern still remains with defending. Granted the defence has done well in recent matches; they have played better, and Stoke have been keeping possession better (but far from perfect), and Whelan has been excellent. On the other hand we have been playing against mediocre/poor opponents. Swansea were all over us for periods on Monday and we did well/were lucky not to concede. I don't think Adam will be the right player when we meet Chelsea in the Prem.
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Post by samba :) on Oct 24, 2015 8:10:18 GMT
To put it simply, if N'Zonzi goes in the summer we are absolutely fucked. humble pie?
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 24, 2015 8:22:43 GMT
Yeah he may not be the answer as such but he's certainly the solution for now, Rob. He's worth his place at the moment, absolutely. It's way too early to be saying 'Steven who' based on three decent games though. Those that said Adam was quite capable of performing that role didn't base it on the last 3 decent games, Rob
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 24, 2015 8:27:24 GMT
He's worth his place at the moment, absolutely. It's way too early to be saying 'Steven who' based on three decent games though. Those that said Adam was quite capable of performing that role didn't base it on the last 3 decent games, Rob I know they didn't Paul. My point is that the idea that the Nzonzi problem is solved and done and dusted because Adam's doing well there is way too premature. Just like the people getting twitchy about Hughes after an iffy start to the season were being premature. Just like the people writing Shaqiri off are being premature.
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 24, 2015 8:40:31 GMT
Yeah he may not be the answer as such but he's certainly the solution for now, Rob. He's doing great. He'll score today. Get your money on it Adam first goal, 3-0 Stoke. 95/1.
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 24, 2015 8:45:27 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 24, 2015 8:51:49 GMT
To put it simply, if N'Zonzi goes in the summer we are absolutely fucked. humble pie? Wow, you're better at bringing up things I've said in the past than my ex-girlfriend.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 24, 2015 8:53:05 GMT
Nice one upthefud. Well worth bringing this back up to the top and showing the Oatcake brains trust how little they really understand about football! Adam will never get the credit he deserves from some Stoke fans
Adam playing deep has added an extra-dimension to our play that we never had with Nzonzi.
Needs to keep his discipline and positioning, but so far he has concentrated really well on the defensive side of his game.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 24, 2015 9:11:59 GMT
Adam is the best option wh have to partner Whelan.
Oue efforts to sign a Zonz replacement showed what a top player he was for us.
Adam has adapted his game, added a little more discipline and done a pretty good job over the last 3 games. Let's all hope it continues.
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Post by jonnybravo on Oct 24, 2015 9:16:29 GMT
N'zonzi always started the season slow first ten games or so he never looked interested but would then kick into gear once he got his head right,if Adam keeps playing well he could be the replacement we never thought we'd get, Seville don't seem to be as patient with Steven as stoke we're.
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Post by potterblade on Oct 24, 2015 9:37:44 GMT
Adams never going to be a like for like replacement. He offers something different in the same poaition and that's how he should be judged. On his own merits not Nzonzis who I am sick of reading about.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 24, 2015 9:53:29 GMT
Nice one upthefud. Well worth bringing this back up to the top and showing the Oatcake brains trust how little they really understand about football! Adam will never get the credit he deserves from some Stoke fans Adam playing deep has added an extra-dimension to our play that we never had with Nzonzi. Needs to keep his discipline and positioning, but so far he has concentrated really well on the defensive side of his game. I think upthefud has at least demonstrated that those who were so quick to dismiss and even ridicule his idea have been shown to know less than both he and the manager does, which in the latter case at least isn't at all surprising. I think you are right that Adam has a wider range of passing that Nz
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Post by chiswickpotter on Oct 24, 2015 9:54:44 GMT
Without. N'Zonzi, Bojan will get more of the ball and get it faster. With Arnie on form, Shaqiri as another threat for opposing defenders to worry about and Diouf's pace, we need to play forward faster and more often, Charlie offers this, N'Zonzi' s long passing was almost non-existent. My worry about Charlie has always been defence and we do look more open at times but football is about compromises and it is fair to say N'Zonzi was not great defensively, he rarely picked up runners in behind him. And the stats do suggest Charlie is doing well defensively. Our back five is stronger this year with a better goalie and right back so that helps. The challenge now is to turn our attacking potential into more goals
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