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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 25, 2015 18:09:25 GMT
Ireland and Adam on the same pitch. And Cameron and silly up to their usual tricks. What do you expect? Sidwell in for Adam. Beardsley in for Cameron and muni in for wolly next week. Adam and Ireland along with Arnie were our best players, they dont deserve to be dropped. I agree on Cameron though he was woeful. I agree against a poor side though. Against better teams we sacrifice too much in balance playing them both. We need a midfield upgrade. I'd still sell Adam in the summer if Shenton could play 3rd string CAM behind Bojan and Ireland
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Apr 25, 2015 18:10:05 GMT
With a midfield of N'Zonzi,Ireland and Adam we will always be vulnerable at the back but we need to get Huth back and build a side around him and Shawcross again.
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Post by mrred on Apr 25, 2015 18:11:09 GMT
Shawcross and Wollsheid were like a fucking comedy sketch today. Absolutely shite.
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 25, 2015 18:11:44 GMT
Slaughtering players at the ground from minute one will not get the best out of them. Some of the comments from so called Stoke fans today were an absolute disgrace. Shameful stuff. Fuckin hell, they deserved all they got for that shambolic first goal,are you saying Pieters didn't need bollocking for that abject piece of defending?
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 25, 2015 18:14:03 GMT
Shawcross and Wollsheid were like a fucking comedy sketch today. Absolutely shite. Coacco the clown and Charlie Corolla spring to mind.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 25, 2015 18:49:39 GMT
I don't think we were ever 'under the cosh' to be fair. They are a dreadful side who we gave several great chances to because of piss poor preparation as a defensive unit and a general sense of panic. It really was fucking woeful at times. Absolutely correct Sheikhy, they were the worst side (and by some distance) to visit the Brit this season and (almost unbelievably) we conspired to gift them the game with utterly atrocious defending. It just goes to show how misleading radio commentary can be. I listened to the match on Signal 2 and they made it sound like we were in jeopardy every time they had an attack. That said, I have noticed a lot of pissing about at the back this season and I don't see the need for it.
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 25, 2015 18:56:29 GMT
It was the pissing about that nearly fucked us over. We started far too slowly conceded and then pissed all over them for the full half for only one goal. Second half our passing and crossing was shite
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Post by adamsson on Apr 25, 2015 18:56:31 GMT
We created all of their best chances for them. Wolly needs to realise that sometimes he just needs to fucking launch it. Wolly was having a 'mare but Begovic could have helped by kicking the ball out not rolling it to him and everyone else could have helped by moving and giving him some options.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 19:53:54 GMT
Ireland and Adam on the same pitch. And Cameron and wolly up to their usual tricks. What do you expect? Sidwell in for Adam. Bardsley in for Cameron and muni in for wolly next week. Sidwell.....for Adam!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2015 0:15:11 GMT
We created all of their best chances for them. Wolly needs to realise that sometimes he just needs to fucking launch it. Wolly was having a 'mare but Begovic could have helped by kicking the ball out not rolling it to him and everyone else could have helped by moving and giving him some options. He had the ball for ages (so not Bego's fault), he fannied around with it, shat himself then fucked up. If no one is on you launch it down the channel. The whole getting angry thing pissed me off as much as the mistake tbh. He needs to man the fuck up and accept he cocked up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 6:27:19 GMT
It's obvious we are trying to evolve out from the back. To do that you need centre halves who can do it and midfielders who are prepared to accept the ball. Since Chelsea away, the amount of midfielders dropping in to take a pass has dropped...a lot. Understandable. Shawcross and Wilson in that case will put their foot through it and get rid. Wollscheid won't because it's not his game and that's what got him in trouble yesterday and kicked off his mad half hour. If it was me in that situation, I'd fling my arms in the air and boot it out for a throw in whilst waving my arms at the lack of options, but I'm a nowty sod. There was one pass that told me everything I needed to know about Wollscheid, our midfield and what the manager is instructing the players to do. That was PWs awkward diagonal that went straight to Defoe. It was a pass that was passing for the sake of it and a totally unnatural pass for a centre back to make born out of a lack of options and a player that only knows one way to play / being told to play only one way. This is one of the things that I referred to on another thread about Hughes creating (fixable) problems. In terms of PW. He needs to be told to stick his foot through it at times or we need to bring Huth back. Given the manager has said there are no problems with Huth or his long term fitness (i think Bowen said that bit) then we can safely assume my theory above is correct, and the manager doesn't fancy Huth as the man to do it. Or Wilson for that matter.
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 26, 2015 8:22:31 GMT
Shawcross needs to take the other back 3 to one side and show some leadership imo.....give em a bollocking.
Yesterday certainly, save for one exceptional tackle, he didnt show enough authority for my liking
Hes not above criticism
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 8:27:21 GMT
Adam and Ireland along with Arnie were our best players, they dont deserve to be dropped. I agree on Cameron though he was woeful. I agree against a poor side though. Against better teams we sacrifice too much in balance playing them both. We need a midfield upgrade. I'd still sell Adam in the summer if Shenton could play 3rd string CAM behind Bojan and Ireland Thank fuck you're not our manager then. You'd sell our only central midfielder who has any idea how to get us on the front foot or where the net is?
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Post by metalhead on Apr 26, 2015 8:33:16 GMT
Ireland and Adam on the same pitch. And Cameron and wolly up to their usual tricks. What do you expect? Sidwell in for Adam. Bardsley in for Cameron and muni in for wolly next week. Not sure Geoff was any worse than Wolly, or the others really. Shawcross looked like he's getting back to his best though. Season is somewhat fading away I feel.
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Post by Davef on Apr 26, 2015 10:34:37 GMT
Ireland and Adam on the same pitch. And Cameron and wolly up to their usual tricks. What do you expect? Sidwell in for Adam. Bardsley in for Cameron and muni in for wolly next week. Yeah, let's f**k off the only midfield player who knows where the back of the net is. Genius.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 26, 2015 10:52:10 GMT
Ireland and Adam on the same pitch. And Cameron and wolly up to their usual tricks. What do you expect? Sidwell in for Adam. Bardsley in for Cameron and muni in for wolly next week. Yeah, let's f**k off the only midfield player who knows where the back of the net is. Genius. There's a reason he doesn't start every week. All I'm saying
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Post by potterpaul on Apr 26, 2015 11:06:19 GMT
Yeah, let's f**k off the only midfield player who knows where the back of the net is. Genius. There's a reason he doesn't start every week. All I'm saying That's like saying there's a reason Huth as been let go to Leicester
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 26, 2015 11:06:49 GMT
There's a reason he doesn't start every week. All I'm saying That's like saying there's a reason Huth as been let go to Leicester There is? His passing was woeful
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Post by potterpaul on Apr 26, 2015 11:10:30 GMT
That's like saying there's a reason Huth as been let go to Leicester There is? His passing was woeful Whatever........getting rid of Huth and possibly Adam are both wank ideas IMO
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