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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:17:21 GMT
Apologies if you think that's being rude. Being a Eurosceptic is NOT being anti-european. It's being anti-EU. There is a world of difference between the two. That's OK. I would be worried that pulling us out of the EU would lead to a decrease in trade between us and the other European countries. Maybe a gamble not worth taking despite the money paid to Brussels. Some of their biggest trade is with the uk.....do you really think large companies would not trade with us? They couldn't afford to it's just scaremongering to keep things the same
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Post by Orbs on Apr 17, 2015 12:33:35 GMT
That's OK. I would be worried that pulling us out of the EU would lead to a decrease in trade between us and the other European countries. Maybe a gamble not worth taking despite the money paid to Brussels. Some of their biggest trade is with the uk.....do you really think large companies would not trade with us? They couldn't afford to it's just scaremongering to keep things the same I don't know - that's why I'm worried it's a possible gamble.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Apr 17, 2015 13:14:59 GMT
Apologies if you think that's being rude. Being a Eurosceptic is NOT being anti-european. It's being anti-EU. There is a world of difference between the two. That's OK. I would be worried that pulling us out of the EU would lead to a decrease in trade between us and the other European countries. Maybe a gamble not worth taking despite the money paid to Brussels. I'd look on the bright side. We'll still be able to trade with the EU (see Norway) at the same time as trading via bi-lateral agreements with the rest of the world, especially the commonwealth, free from EU red-tape. Win-win!
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Post by Orbs on Apr 17, 2015 13:22:33 GMT
That's OK. I would be worried that pulling us out of the EU would lead to a decrease in trade between us and the other European countries. Maybe a gamble not worth taking despite the money paid to Brussels. I'd look on the bright side. We'll still be able to trade with the EU (see Norway) at the same time as trading via bi-lateral agreements with the rest of the world, especially the commonwealth, free from EU red-tape. Win-win! Certainly one to ponder then......
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 17, 2015 13:43:08 GMT
The big issue I have with UKIP is this . nobody can argue with 90% of what farage says , immigration needs to be reduced , our armed forces need proper funding , nhs for UK taxpayers , foreign aid needs to be better targeted , euro federalism needs to be stopped nobody from left or right could sensibly argue against any of it for me any talk of a withdrawal from the EU leaves UKIP dead in the water all of his policies stem from this , if it ever happens you will see a flight of capital and jobs over to mainland Europe that will cripple this country So you are saying immigration needs dealing with Then say we shouldn't leave the EU We would have to leave to be able to sort immigration Oh and leaving the eu would not necassarilly see jobs go....scaremongering Big companies kind of lean that way to keep the status quo.....bluffing Can't you see the lies and faults with labour and conservatives?.......do you not have problems believing an ounce of their promises ? How could you vote for more of that? Yes
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 14:00:03 GMT
So you are saying immigration needs dealing with Then say we shouldn't leave the EU We would have to leave to be able to sort immigration Oh and leaving the eu would not necassarilly see jobs go....scaremongering Big companies kind of lean that way to keep the status quo.....bluffing Can't you see the lies and faults with labour and conservatives?.......do you not have problems believing an ounce of their promises ? How could you vote for more of that? Yes yes what?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 17, 2015 14:09:18 GMT
That's OK. I would be worried that pulling us out of the EU would lead to a decrease in trade between us and the other European countries. Maybe a gamble not worth taking despite the money paid to Brussels. I'd look on the bright side. We'll still be able to trade with the EU (see Norway) at the same time as trading via bi-lateral agreements with the rest of the world, especially the commonwealth, free from EU red-tape. Win-win! Norway are part of the European Economic Area. This means they have to adhere to nearly all EU trade laws, while having no say in how those laws are created. If this is the solution, it's one that creates a bigger problem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 14:11:54 GMT
I'd look on the bright side. We'll still be able to trade with the EU (see Norway) at the same time as trading via bi-lateral agreements with the rest of the world, especially the commonwealth, free from EU red-tape. Win-win! Norway are part of the European Economic Area. This means they have to adhere to nearly all EU trade laws, while having no say in how those laws are created. If this is the solution, it's one that creates a bigger problem. We have the commonwealth who are doing very well compared to europe
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Post by Orbs on Apr 17, 2015 14:14:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 15:28:29 GMT
thats my ukip love over.....conna do with crap spelling.....bet it was Nige who on earth would want to vote for an independant britain with sensible trade, immigration policy, sensible nhs policy, sensible education policy, sensible armed forces policy now?
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 17, 2015 15:33:03 GMT
thats my ukip love over.....conna do with crap spelling.....bet it was Nige who on earth would want to vote for an independant britain with sensible trade, immigration policy, sensible nhs policy, sensible education policy, sensible armed forces policy now? Must have been the savage cuts Maggie made to the grammar schools
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 15:36:57 GMT
thats my ukip love over.....conna do with crap spelling.....bet it was Nige who on earth would want to vote for an independant britain with sensible trade, immigration policy, sensible nhs policy, sensible education policy, sensible armed forces policy now? There is noting worse than missing apostrophes .......scandalous !
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 17, 2015 17:26:38 GMT
thats my ukip love over.....conna do with crap spelling.....bet it was Nige who on earth would want to vote for an independant britain with sensible trade, immigration policy, sensible nhs policy, sensible education policy, sensible armed forces policy now? That's me converted too mate. Never mind the policies or what ukip stand for . I'm defo a Labour man now. (not really)
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 17, 2015 20:13:41 GMT
thats my ukip love over.....conna do with crap spelling.....bet it was Nige who on earth would want to vote for an independant britain with sensible trade, immigration policy, sensible nhs policy, sensible education policy, sensible armed forces policy now? There is noting worse than missing apostrophes .......scandalous ! Yes there is. Saying "noting" when you mean "nothing". That is much worse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 20:33:53 GMT
There is noting worse than missing apostrophes .......scandalous ! Yes there is. Saying "noting" when you mean "nothing". That is much worse. I wondered when someone would spot my " deliberate " mistake ?
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 17, 2015 20:46:45 GMT
There is noting worse than missing apostrophes .......scandalous ! Yes there is. Saying "noting" when you mean "nothing". That is much worse. Perhaps he is from Southern Ireland all the gypos talk like that
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Post by Orbs on Apr 17, 2015 20:56:25 GMT
thats my ukip love over.....conna do with crap spelling.....bet it was Nige who on earth would want to vote for an independant britain with sensible trade, immigration policy, sensible nhs policy, sensible education policy, sensible armed forces policy now? That's me converted too mate. Never mind the policies or what ukip stand for . I'm defo a Labour man now. (not really) Call me old fashioned but I tend to prefer my local MP to command at least a basic grasp of written English.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 17, 2015 20:58:49 GMT
That's me converted too mate. Never mind the policies or what ukip stand for . I'm defo a Labour man now. (not really) Call me old fashioned but I tend to prefer my local MP to command at least a basic grasp of written English. I take it you do not live in Stoke-on-Trent then.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 21:13:34 GMT
That's me converted too mate. Never mind the policies or what ukip stand for . I'm defo a Labour man now. (not really) Call me old fashioned but I tend to prefer my local MP to command at least a basic grasp of written English. I'll stick to calling you a cunt if that's ok.....tzc
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Post by Billybigbollox on Apr 17, 2015 22:57:08 GMT
Yet again auntie at it's biased best..... "we as the media will scrutinise to make sure the sums add up" fucking hell! When are you going to start with the labour conservative and liberal party then? BBC puppetsUKIP's own polling shows Farage behind and Reckless will fail to retain his seat you should be glad the BBC is discussing the manifesto at all, when there is as much chance of it being implemented as there is of me having to choose between which of the Minogue sisters to sleep with first For fuck sake be sensible. It has to be Danni.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 18, 2015 0:56:33 GMT
Norway are part of the European Economic Area. This means they have to adhere to nearly all EU trade laws, while having no say in how those laws are created. If this is the solution, it's one that creates a bigger problem. We have the commonwealth who are doing very well compared to europe So no deals with Europe at all?
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 18, 2015 0:56:59 GMT
That's me converted too mate. Never mind the policies or what ukip stand for . I'm defo a Labour man now. (not really) Call me old fashioned but I tend to prefer my local MP to command at least a basic grasp of written English. 7 Call me normal owd (or racist by left wing wing standards) but I do n all
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 6:46:47 GMT
We have the commonwealth who are doing very well compared to europe So no deals with Europe at all? The world would be our oyster ..europe is still in the world isn't it? .....we would have far more bargaining powers because they want us as much, if not more....if we left you can bet that a few others would want to too. Don't think for one minute things are all rosey with countries in the EU.... .britain looking outward instead of inward.....free to do deals with the world instead of being trapped in an economic prisom you say being in gives us powers...it may be like that on paper but Britain has no powers within the EU......we are scorned upon even when Brown made his big United europe speach in Brussels and signed over a huge chunk of the UK ......they still took turns to stand and fire volley after volley at us for not signing up to the euro and handing over everything make no mistake Germany is the driver with France map reading......we will always be just passengers
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 18, 2015 6:53:46 GMT
So no deals with Europe at all? The world would be our oyster ..europe is still in the world isn't it? .....we would have far more bargaining powers because they want us as much, if not more....if we left you can bet that a few others would want to too. Don't think for one minute things are all rosey with countries in the EU.... .britain looking outward instead of inward.....free to do deals with the world instead of being trapped in an economic prisom you say being in gives us powers...it may be like that on paper but Britain has no powers within the EU......we are scorned upon even when Brown made his big United europe speach in Brussels and signed over a huge chunk of the UK ......they still took turns to stand and fire volley after volley at us for not signing up to the euro and handing over everything make no mistake Germany is the driver with France map reading......we will always be just passengers We will never leave even if we eventually get a yes vote
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 18, 2015 6:56:35 GMT
So no deals with Europe at all? The world would be our oyster ..europe is still in the world isn't it? .....we would have far more bargaining powers because they want us as much, if not more....if we left you can bet that a few others would want to too. Don't think for one minute things are all rosey with countries in the EU.... .britain looking outward instead of inward.....free to do deals with the world instead of being trapped in an economic prisom you say being in gives us powers...it may be like that on paper but Britain has no powers within the EU......we are scorned upon even when Brown made his big United europe speach in Brussels and signed over a huge chunk of the UK ......they still took turns to stand and fire volley after volley at us for not signing up to the euro and handing over everything make no mistake Germany is the driver with France map reading......we will always be just passengers Anyway , you know nothing about politics sort out my dark matter problem and I'll bring you 11 oatcakes
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 7:01:13 GMT
The world would be our oyster ..europe is still in the world isn't it? .....we would have far more bargaining powers because they want us as much, if not more....if we left you can bet that a few others would want to too. Don't think for one minute things are all rosey with countries in the EU.... .britain looking outward instead of inward.....free to do deals with the world instead of being trapped in an economic prisom you say being in gives us powers...it may be like that on paper but Britain has no powers within the EU......we are scorned upon even when Brown made his big United europe speach in Brussels and signed over a huge chunk of the UK ......they still took turns to stand and fire volley after volley at us for not signing up to the euro and handing over everything make no mistake Germany is the driver with France map reading......we will always be just passengers We will never leave even if we eventually get a yes vote I am so dissolutioned with politics and the people we have become I think you are right harry .....sadly too many scared sheep and thieving rich gluttons Also reality is lost on our population........all too willing to believe in anything they are promised by the same people every five years you do seem to have a lot of dark matter between those furry ears
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 18, 2015 7:18:08 GMT
We will never leave even if we eventually get a yes vote I am so dissolutioned with politics and the people we have become I think you are right harry .....sadly too many scared sheep and thieving rich gluttons Also reality is lost on our population........all too willing to believe in anything they are promised by the same people every five years you do seem to have a lot of dark matter between those furry ears The problem with an in out vote being its a one time no turning back leap into the dark situation , most people including me would be very wary of it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 7:29:06 GMT
I am so dissolutioned with politics and the people we have become I think you are right harry .....sadly too many scared sheep and thieving rich gluttons Also reality is lost on our population........all too willing to believe in anything they are promised by the same people every five years you do seem to have a lot of dark matter between those furry ears The problem with an in out vote being its a one time no turning back leap into the dark situation , most people including me would be very wary of it He he who dares Rodders
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 18, 2015 7:53:42 GMT
The problem with an in out vote being its a one time no turning back leap into the dark situation , most people including me would be very wary of it He he who dares Rodders If I could pull up a lemming I would
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Post by countofmontecristo on Apr 18, 2015 8:11:00 GMT
I'd look on the bright side. We'll still be able to trade with the EU (see Norway) at the same time as trading via bi-lateral agreements with the rest of the world, especially the commonwealth, free from EU red-tape. Win-win! Norway are part of the European Economic Area. This means they have to adhere to nearly all EU trade laws, while having no say in how those laws are created. If this is the solution, it's one that creates a bigger problem. Yes - it creates such a massive problem for them they have to scrape by with having the highest standard of living in Europe!
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