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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 4, 2015 18:56:55 GMT
Clueless show pont shit control and shit ahooting exposed today yet again one for off the wage bill as soon as possible no meaningful contribution all season
We should pay him off in the summer and free up his wages he has shown over time he can't string any meaningful contributions together and he compromises the exceellent effort of true professionals shawcross Walters Wilson whelan nzonzi to name but 5
Get rid asap
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Post by nutterpotter on Apr 4, 2015 18:57:54 GMT
Arnie tries too hard to impress; that's his downfall. He shrugs off players with ease, can beat a man but it's just that final bit of composure which needs sorting. Give him a run of games and think he'll start to relax a bit more. And anyone that thinks his attitude/work rate is crap knows fuck all.
EDIT: And I bet no one in our team would have made something meaningful out of that so-called 'one on one' chance
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 4, 2015 19:04:20 GMT
I think the supporters that clearly hate Arnie are the same ones that loved Sidibe and Richard Cresswell
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 19:07:28 GMT
We need to release the shackles and go for it these next 7 games. For me that means going with Moses and Arnie out wide with Diouf/Walters up top. Arnie has his faults and finishing is number one on the list but we look a better attacking force with him and/or Moses playing......
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Post by Paddypotter on Apr 4, 2015 19:18:34 GMT
Fuck me, Arni's crap unlike Walters the true pro!!! are you on drugs, Walters was shite, doesn't tackle (never close enough to stick his foot in) Just jockeys his man. no pace, hasn't a clue half the time where the ball is. There is an illusion that Walters has good defensive qualities, please point out what he did well today.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 4, 2015 19:19:25 GMT
We need to release the useless Austrian never mind the shackles twice tonight poor control and poor shooting were yet again badly exposed as match channging incompetence fooled by the usual arm waving and super model like pouting
Just get rid
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Post by riponstokie on Apr 4, 2015 19:25:00 GMT
Fuck me, Arni's crap unlike Walters the true pro!!! are you on drugs, Walters was shite, doesn't tackle (never close enough to stick his foot in) Just jockeys his man. no pace, hasn't a clue half the time where the ball is. There is an illusion that Walters has good defensive qualities, please point out what he did well today. Clueless...walters is hungry and determined. Irrelevant of his skills and flair give me him over Arnie any day. Jon Gives his all and loves playing for the mighty potters. I don't think Arnie does.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 4, 2015 19:27:25 GMT
His shot said everything he needs to deal with , lots of qualities but his finishing is pathetic and in his position it has to improve
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 4, 2015 19:29:50 GMT
We need to release the useless Austrian never mind the shackles twice tonight poor control and poor shooting were yet again badly exposed as match channging incompetence fooled by the usual arm waving and super model like pouting Just get rid I'm genuinely staggered that anyone can accuse Arnie of poor control, the ball sticks to him whether it's fired at him knee high or even over his shoulder. Is this another myth that's been created to discredit Arnie? Even his staunchest critics now know they were talking shit when they called him idle. His shooting is abysmal and for the natural ability he has he doesn't impose himself on games enough but don't make shit up.
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 4, 2015 19:31:22 GMT
Clueless show pont shit control and shit ahooting exposed today yet again one for off the wage bill as soon as possible no meaningful contribution all season We should pay him off in the summer and free up his wages he has shown over time he can't string any meaningful contributions together and he compromises the exceellent effort of true professionals shawcross Walters Wilson whelan nzonzi to name but 5 Get rid asap Come again.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Apr 4, 2015 19:35:16 GMT
I think the supporters that clearly hate Arnie are the same ones that loved Sidibe and Richard Cresswell I like watching Arnie but don't believe he is the answer to any challenge we have (he really has had enough chances ). I loved Sidibe, one of my favourite players of all time. I was indifferent about Cresswell but my heart sank when I saw him constantly selected as a winger. I supported all three and cheered them on whenever they pulled on a Stoke top. What is with this "hate" for any Stoke player ?????
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Apr 4, 2015 19:38:14 GMT
I think the supporters that clearly hate Arnie are the same ones that loved Sidibe and Richard Cresswell I like watching Arnie but don't believe he is the answer to any challenge we have (he really has had enough chances ). I loved Sidibe, one of my favourite players of all time. I was indifferent about Cresswell but my heart sank when I saw him constantly selected as a winger. I supported all three and cheered them on whenever they pulled on a Stoke top. What is with this "hate" for any Stoke player ????? Agree with this 100%, especially the part about the hate for some of our players. Don't understand it at all
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 4, 2015 19:44:40 GMT
There's a lot of players who don't get half as much shit as Arnie. Wilson and Whelan are fucking garbage. Whelan garbage?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 4, 2015 19:53:06 GMT
There's a lot of players who don't get half as much shit as Arnie. Wilson and Whelan are fucking garbage. Whelan garbage? Maybe "garbage" is a little harsh, but he isn't anything special, I'd be looking at getting rid of Whelan and Wilson.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Apr 4, 2015 19:55:42 GMT
Incredibly unlucky not to start today , my motm against palace !
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Post by ukcstokie on Apr 4, 2015 20:12:41 GMT
For the second half of last season, I'd never seen a better Stoke player than Arnie, people have been quick to forget just how incredible he was. It's disappointing that he hasn't found THAT form again but he's been fine this season. He hasn't been brilliant, but he's been okay. He played well when he came on against the best team in the league, and despite what the OP is trying to portray, a first time volley from the edge of the area isn't a 4 yard tap in. Unfortunately there's a fairly large number of moronic twats in our support who, however well he plays, have decided pre game that they don't like him and are going to focus on every less than good thing he does, or just make stuff up. It's pretty fucking obvious that if you're criticising his work rate, you're not actually taking notice of what's right in front of your eyes, but it doesn't stop pockets of 'support' abusing him for being lazy. It's fucking shameful - whether you like or hate his cocky style, he is a good footballer with the potential to be an excellent footballer. Well said mate. Some of the criticism is just moronic. He's not perfect (and when does a middle of the table Premiership team have perfect footballers for any length of time?), but I've seen him slagged off for being lazy, not giving a shit, wearing Champions League boots, being called a "child" when he was 17,....
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 4, 2015 20:15:11 GMT
Maybe "garbage" is a little harsh, but he isn't anything special, I'd be looking at getting rid of Whelan and Wilson. Very harsh I'd say.We paid £500,000 for Whelan and he has repaid that fee ten fold,and continues too.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 4, 2015 20:20:38 GMT
Clean through from a Ireland pass no one between him and goal and hi control let him down that why i said poor control
It's clearly a mental thing as soon as real chance occurs he goes to pieces he can control on the halfway line but under pressure near Goal his game falls apart
Flatters to deceive plenty of chances get rid
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 4, 2015 20:25:35 GMT
Maybe "garbage" is a little harsh, but he isn't anything special, I'd be looking at getting rid of Whelan and Wilson. Very harsh I'd say.We paid £500,000 for Whelan and he has repaid that fee ten fold,and continues too. Overrated, nearly scored an own goal today as well
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 4, 2015 21:02:03 GMT
Very harsh I'd say.We paid £500,000 for Whelan and he has repaid that fee ten fold,and continues too. Overrated, nearly scored an own goal today as well Has contributed to the Stoke cause more than Arnie ever will.Overrated?A bit ironic that.
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 4, 2015 21:35:55 GMT
It is - that there are some here who still drool over him. What has he done the whole season !!!!????? Fuck all that's what ! Just cause he walks like he's some Ronaldo, he isn't . Not even one goal this season ! He was put straight on goal but was unable to control it ! Then gets a last minute chance and blazes it out if the Stamford bridge roof! RUBBISH Hes a Marmite player but capable of something special. suppose he's a guy that Pulis wouldn't entertain for the same reason that his detractors on here don't
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Apr 4, 2015 21:49:07 GMT
Clean through from a Ireland pass no one between him and goal and hi control let him down that why i said poor control It's clearly a mental thing as soon as real chance occurs he goes to pieces he can control on the halfway line but under pressure near Goal his game falls apart Flatters to deceive plenty of chances get rid Like he controlled it against Fulham ? Where he brought it down held off Riise and pulled it bk for the goal. His touch was bad today for that chance but there's not another player at this squad with a better touch.
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Post by malteser68 on Apr 4, 2015 22:25:32 GMT
For the second half of last season, I'd never seen a better Stoke player than Arnie, people have been quick to forget just how incredible he was. It's disappointing that he hasn't found THAT form again but he's been fine this season. He hasn't been brilliant, but he's been okay. He played well when he came on against the best team in the league, and despite what the OP is trying to portray, a first time volley from the edge of the area isn't a 4 yard tap in. Unfortunately there's a fairly large number of moronic twats in our support who, however well he plays, have decided pre game that they don't like him and are going to focus on every less than good thing he does, or just make stuff up. It's pretty fucking obvious that if you're criticising his work rate, you're not actually taking notice of what's right in front of your eyes, but it doesn't stop pockets of 'support' abusing him for being lazy. It's fucking shameful - whether you like or hate his cocky style, he is a good footballer with the potential to be an excellent footballer. 'never seen a better stoke player than arnie'. Go check yourself for dementia mate. Arnie isn't worth Ricky's little finger
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Post by malteser68 on Apr 4, 2015 22:27:37 GMT
For the second half of last season, I'd never seen a better Stoke player than Arnie, people have been quick to forget just how incredible he was. It's disappointing that he hasn't found THAT form again but he's been fine this season. He hasn't been brilliant, but he's been okay. He played well when he came on against the best team in the league, and despite what the OP is trying to portray, a first time volley from the edge of the area isn't a 4 yard tap in. Unfortunately there's a fairly large number of moronic twats in our support who, however well he plays, have decided pre game that they don't like him and are going to focus on every less than good thing he does, or just make stuff up. It's pretty fucking obvious that if you're criticising his work rate, you're not actually taking notice of what's right in front of your eyes, but it doesn't stop pockets of 'support' abusing him for being lazy. It's fucking shameful - whether you like or hate his cocky style, he is a good footballer with the potential to be an excellent footballer. 'never seen a better stoke player than arnie'. Go check yourself for dementia mate. Arnie isn't worth Ricky's little finger ''he's a good footballer with the potential of being an excellent footballer' - yeah that's why he's been allowed to leave on a free from every club he's Been at. And the same will happen pretty soon at stoke
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Post by malteser68 on Apr 4, 2015 22:31:42 GMT
I like watching Arnie but don't believe he is the answer to any challenge we have (he really has had enough chances ). I loved Sidibe, one of my favourite players of all time. I was indifferent about Cresswell but my heart sank when I saw him constantly selected as a winger. I supported all three and cheered them on whenever they pulled on a Stoke top. What is with this "hate" for any Stoke player ????? Agree with this 100%, especially the part about the hate for some of our players. Don't understand it at all its got nothing to do with hate, I don't hate arnie, that would be stupid. I just don't think he's anyting special thats all. He's nowhere near good enough. That's my opinion of him and sparky seems to think the same. Doesn't mean I hate him. And I thought cresswell was utterly useless at prem level. And he was. But I didn't 'hate' him Ffs
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Apr 4, 2015 22:31:53 GMT
'never seen a better stoke player than arnie'. Go check yourself for dementia mate. Arnie isn't worth Ricky's little finger ''he's a good footballer with the potential of being an excellent footballer' - yeah that's why he's been allowed to leave on a free from every club he's Been at. And the same will happen pretty soon at stoke We actually paid around 2m for Arnie ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif)
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Post by malteser68 on Apr 4, 2015 22:33:34 GMT
Well if we did hope we can get that money back when we decide to move him on at the end of the season which I'm pretty sure we will
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Apr 4, 2015 22:35:30 GMT
Agree with this 100%, especially the part about the hate for some of our players. Don't understand it at all its got nothing to do with hate, I don't hate arnie, that would be stupid. I just don't think he's anyting special thats all. He's nowhere near good enough. That's my opinion of him and sparky seems to think the same. Doesn't mean I hate him. And I thought cresswell was utterly useless at prem level. And he was. But I didn't 'hate' him Ffs Constantly berating him when he's been no worse than the majority in the majority of games he's played is also stupid.
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Post by malteser68 on Apr 4, 2015 22:37:54 GMT
No goals in a whole season from a striker / attacking midfielder is crap and useless in my book. Crouch has scored, diouf has scored, Walters has scored, bojan has scored, Adam has scored - everyone except him
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Apr 4, 2015 22:44:21 GMT
No goals in a whole season from a striker / attacking midfielder is crap and useless in my book. Crouch has scored, diouf has scored, Walters has scored, bojan has scored, Adam has scored - everyone except him But he scored in the cup? Or does not not count? It's also not just about goals. Along with Moses, he's provided the most amount of assists this season.
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