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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 24, 2015 11:16:19 GMT
Bizarre really. I suppose money is getting in the way of morals though and they would think they'd have a better chance of staying up with him playing. Hard to fathom it. It's one thing before he's charged, but seems crazy after it. Maybe a top-form Johnson would help them - but he'll just be a sideshow and his mind will be all over the place. I remember Lee Bowyer played great after his arrest - but that kindof toughness is rare and it's just an open invitation for the home crowd to whip up a frenzied atmosphere. Spinksy's take on the statement is that he'll definitely feature as early as tomorrow. I still can't see it - but we'll see. If he does play tomorrow, Im sorry but thats just rank bad management from Dick Advocaat.....is anyone seriously saying that Johnson WONT get any barracking and this WONT effect the other Sunderland players....come on !!! Every single one of the Sunderland players needs to be right on their game to get anything out of tomorrow and with this side show going on it bodes well for us Im happy to say. I think this could be the tonking of a team that everyones been waiting for this season As you were Dick (head)
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2015 11:16:28 GMT
I'm assuming the majority of your support think he should be suspended until this has ended on way or the other?
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 24, 2015 11:18:49 GMT
Well that's sorted motivating the home crowd
A quiet day at the Brit in prospect
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Post by haway on Apr 24, 2015 11:22:54 GMT
I'm assuming the majority of your support think he should be suspended until this has ended on way or the other? Kinda 50-50 mate, I'm on the side of he should be suspended till the end of this trial, whilst others preach 'innocent till proven guilty' and should be playing. A lot are surprised that the club have took this stance though - clearly only doing it as he's one of our only decent/okay players. Make no mistake, if we didn't have any relegation worries - we'd have suspended him. Although, we did the same thing with Titus Bramble when he was charged of rape I believe. He hasn't started a game since all of this surfaced though, so I doubt he'll be involved much tomorrow if at all (10 mins at most)
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 24, 2015 11:25:33 GMT
I think Stoke will win tomorrow whether Johnson plays or not. A fired up crowd can help any home team but personal abuse of individual opposition players probably has little effect and in fact can in some cases motivate the opposition.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2015 11:25:39 GMT
I'm assuming the majority of your support think he should be suspended until this has ended on way or the other? Kinda 50-50 mate, I'm on the side of he should be suspended till the end of this trial, whilst others preach 'innocent till proven guilty' and should be playing. A lot are surprised that the club have took this stance though - clearly only doing it as he's one of our only decent/okay players. Make no mistake, if we didn't have any relegation worries - we'd have suspended him. Although, we did the same thing with Titus Bramble when he was charged of rape I believe. He hasn't started a game since all of this surfaced though, so I doubt he'll be involved much tomorrow if at all (10 mins at most) I agree he's innocent until proven otherwise but it's pretty normal to suspend an employee until the trial has finished. It will look terrible on your club if he is convicted and they chose to play him while proceedings were pending.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2015 11:26:30 GMT
I think Stoke will win tomorrow whether Johnson plays or not. A fired up crowd can help any home team but personal abuse of individual opposition players probably has little effect and in fact can in some cases motivate the opposition. We'll be fired up, Geoff. Your mates the ref!
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 24, 2015 11:28:24 GMT
He's going to send a Sunderland player off and give us a penalty Jamo, how will you explain that?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2015 11:29:51 GMT
He's going to send a Sunderland player off and give us a penalty Jamo, how will you explain that? Depends if it's the right decision or not doesn't it?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2015 11:38:34 GMT
He's going to send a Sunderland player off and give us a penalty Jamo, how will you explain that? Another more interesting theory is that you're actually Atkinson and we've hurt your feelings enough to make you want to even things up with us. Have a nice day, Martin.
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Post by boshinthekipper on Apr 24, 2015 11:39:55 GMT
A few years ago the least of his worries would be getting called a dirty nonce bastard. Now he'll just get some tuts and wagging fingers whilst anyone who abuses him will get looked at like they just landed in a spaceship.
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Post by BuzzB on Apr 24, 2015 12:04:28 GMT
I think Stoke will win tomorrow whether Johnson plays or not. A fired up crowd can help any home team but personal abuse of individual opposition players probably has little effect and in fact can in some cases motivate the opposition.[/quote Really Geoff? Ask Shaun Wright Phillips and Danny Rose
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 24, 2015 12:52:04 GMT
Surely he wouldn't consider starting Johnson?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 24, 2015 13:49:28 GMT
-1,000,000 fair play points for us tomorrow I feel.....
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 24, 2015 13:56:33 GMT
I wonder if Bardsley would have any joy from booting him 20 rows back into the Boothen? just for the possibility I'd like him to play.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Apr 24, 2015 14:00:06 GMT
-1,000,000 fair play points for us tomorrow I feel..... that was my 1st thought when saw it on sky haha
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Post by tuum on Apr 24, 2015 14:22:59 GMT
Bizarre really. I suppose money is getting in the way of morals though and they would think they'd have a better chance of staying up with him playing. He has not been convicted of any crime. Until he is he should be treated the same as you and I. If he feels ok and is ready to play then I think Sunderland are doing the right thing. I am happy for Johnson and his manager to decide what is best for him at the moment. If you were innocent, and at the moment he is, perhaps you might welcome the support from your employers?
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Post by k on Apr 24, 2015 14:25:11 GMT
Who can forget our fabulously inventive chant against Man City's Robinho when he was under scrutiny for sexual related charges
Rob-in--ho When the girls says no, moleeeeest her
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2015 14:27:55 GMT
Bizarre really. I suppose money is getting in the way of morals though and they would think they'd have a better chance of staying up with him playing. He has not been convicted of any crime. Until he is he should be treated the same as you and I. If he feels ok and is ready to play then I think Sunderland are doing the right thing. I am happy for Johnson and his manager to decide what is best for him at the moment. If you were innocent, and at the moment he is, perhaps you might welcome the support from your employers? You're missing the point. I totally agree that he is innocent at the minute until proven otherwise. Is it not normal to be sent home on full pay in such circumstances though? It seems the most sensible option and what I'd expect to happen whether it be him or someone at work. It serves two purposes, it takes him out of the public eye if he's innocent and if he isn't it means his club can't be dragged into it by playing him prior to any potential conviction. I reckon if it was you at your work they'd send you home until you'd cleared your name wouldn't they?
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 24, 2015 14:36:20 GMT
Could public abuse and criticism of someone facing prosecution be brought up by his defence has prejudicing the case against him?
His lawyers might be a bit interested if he plays!
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Post by tuum on Apr 24, 2015 14:46:35 GMT
He has not been convicted of any crime. Until he is he should be treated the same as you and I. If he feels ok and is ready to play then I think Sunderland are doing the right thing. I am happy for Johnson and his manager to decide what is best for him at the moment. If you were innocent, and at the moment he is, perhaps you might welcome the support from your employers? You're missing the point. I totally agree that he is innocent at the minute until proven otherwise. Is it not normal to be sent home on full pay in such circumstances though? It seems the most sensible option and what I'd expect to happen whether it be him or someone at work. It serves two purposes, it takes him out of the public eye if he's innocent and if he isn't it means his club can't be dragged into it by playing him prior to any potential conviction. I reckon if it was you at your work they'd send you home until you'd cleared your name wouldn't they? Its a tough one. I think it is a decision that should be made primarily by Adam Johnson. Employers unilaterally deciding what should happen invariably take the most conservative option which may not be in the best interests of their employee. Some people would welcome the chance to be with their families and use the time to prepare their defence. Others may hate the idea of being at home all day with nothing to do but spiral into depression. Employers putting you on gardening leave without your consent always leaves me thinking that they are looking after their own interests rather than your own. Fortunately, I cant speak from experience. Like I said,its a tough one. Having said that,if he does feature in the squad tommorow I fully expect him to get loads of abuse..and quite rightly. Innocent or not, he is playing for the opposition and our job is to make life as uncomfortable as possible for him without resorting to physical violence.
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 24, 2015 14:47:19 GMT
Could public abuse and criticism of someone facing prosecution be brought up by his defence has prejudicing the case against him? His lawyers might be a bit interested if he plays! Off with his knackers I say.... Just been sent some Adam Johnson jokes by a few mates back in Alsager - to say hes getting battered on social media already is an understatement!!!!!!!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2015 14:49:33 GMT
You're missing the point. I totally agree that he is innocent at the minute until proven otherwise. Is it not normal to be sent home on full pay in such circumstances though? It seems the most sensible option and what I'd expect to happen whether it be him or someone at work. It serves two purposes, it takes him out of the public eye if he's innocent and if he isn't it means his club can't be dragged into it by playing him prior to any potential conviction. I reckon if it was you at your work they'd send you home until you'd cleared your name wouldn't they? Its a tough one. I think it is a decision that should be made primarily by Adam Johnson. Employers unilaterally deciding what should happen invariably take the most conservative option which may not be in the best interests of their employee. Some people would welcome the chance to be with their families and use the time to prepare their defence. Others may hate the idea of being at home all day with nothing to do but spiral into depression. Employers putting you on gardening leave without your consent always leaves me thinking that they are looking after their own interests rather than your own. Fortunately, I cant speak from experience. Like I said,its a tough one. Having said that,if he does feature in the squad tommorow I fully expect him to get loads of abuse..and quite rightly. Innocent or not, he is playing for the opposition and our job is to make life as uncomfortable as possible for him without resorting to physical violence. My concern is that Sunderland are trying to put themselves and their league status ahead of what is most important and that's the bit I find unsavoury in announcing they are happy to pick him.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 24, 2015 14:57:02 GMT
If Sunderland were where we are in the table I'm 99.9% sure he wouldn't be anywhere near the squad. I think that's safe to say.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 24, 2015 15:35:52 GMT
Its a tough one. I think it is a decision that should be made primarily by Adam Johnson. Employers unilaterally deciding what should happen invariably take the most conservative option which may not be in the best interests of their employee. Some people would welcome the chance to be with their families and use the time to prepare their defence. Others may hate the idea of being at home all day with nothing to do but spiral into depression. Employers putting you on gardening leave without your consent always leaves me thinking that they are looking after their own interests rather than your own. Fortunately, I cant speak from experience. Like I said,its a tough one. Having said that,if he does feature in the squad tommorow I fully expect him to get loads of abuse..and quite rightly. Innocent or not, he is playing for the opposition and our job is to make life as uncomfortable as possible for him without resorting to physical violence. My concern is that Sunderland are trying to put themselves and their league status ahead of what is most important and that's the bit I find unsavoury in announcing they are happy to pick him. Stoke City is not the place you want to play when there is bad publicity surrounding you. Ask Gareth Barry. Ask SWP. Ask Danny Rose. Ask Robinho. Adam Johnson should be a quite a nice target tomorrow should he make it on to the pitch. He can be assured of all manner of pelters from all 4 sides of the stadium I would imagine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 16:33:21 GMT
Under the circumstances, it's a disgrace that he's even in their squad. I cannot believe that they are even considering it!
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Post by crouchbot on Apr 24, 2015 16:43:37 GMT
This is Newcastle fans chant.... It is pretty good...
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 24, 2015 16:48:29 GMT
Under the circumstances, it's a disgrace that he's even in their squad. I cannot believe that they are even considering it! The premiership coin comes above anything else, anything. It will show everyone once and for all just how fucked up football is in this country if he plays tomorrow.
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Post by sage on Apr 24, 2015 16:58:52 GMT
Possibly one of the best atmospheres tomorrow, hostile! I can't see him getting on the pitch. "He shags little girls, he shags little girrrls, Adam Johnson you shag little girls!" I feel this is the only likely chant...oh for the days when it was possible for any new and even slightly inventive chant to catch on that wasn't to that same damn drone
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 24, 2015 16:59:48 GMT
The police have charged Johnson and it now remains to be seen if he is found guilty, the only people who seem not to be charged for these sort of offences or worse are some of the people who make the laws.
A few people on here are assuming the player is guilty, not because they have any real idea he is, but simply because he is an opposition PL player and is seen as fair game, the coming court case will be a big worry for him, a few chants and songs will certainly not be.
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