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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 14:31:02 GMT
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 2, 2015 14:44:42 GMT
Doesn't make a difference, he still won't be back till next season.
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 2, 2015 14:48:20 GMT
Doesn't make a difference, he still won't be back till next season. Big difference if he can have a pre-seaon so be available from the start of the season rather than playing catchup. He will need that time to gain confidence in his knee injury being recovered.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 2, 2015 14:51:08 GMT
Yeh it's all over the official site just after the Up date On Ryan's back injury.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 14:53:50 GMT
Brilliant. Fingers crossed for a luckier season for us with injuries. Sign two or three players and have a settled in Bojan and Odemwingie back and the Premier League is not going to know what's hit it.
Bego New RB Shawcross Wollscheid Pieters/Muniesa
Nzonzi Whelan
Odemwingie/Arnie Bojan New winger (Moses?)
New striker (Or settled in Diouf might turn out to be better than we've seen yet)
That'd be a pretty awesome team.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 2, 2015 14:54:48 GMT
Just had a wank into my sink. Oh that was you I saw from across the way was it? Put it away it's not worth looking at!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 2, 2015 14:55:41 GMT
Great news
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 2, 2015 14:58:30 GMT
Doesn't make a difference, he still won't be back till next season. Big difference if he can have a pre-seaon so be available from the start of the season rather than playing catchup. He will need that time to gain confidence in his knee injury being recovered. But he was already due back in pre-season?
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 2, 2015 15:02:17 GMT
Just remember though - whilst we're all wanking, Stephen Ireland is crying (and maybe wanking too, I dunno).
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 2, 2015 15:02:50 GMT
Big difference if he can have a pre-seaon so be available from the start of the season rather than playing catchup. He will need that time to gain confidence in his knee injury being recovered. But he was already due back in pre-season? It is normal and was suggested to take 6 months before he would be back ( from the operation) that would make it August. Ok before the season starts but no pre-season. I've had four ops on the same knee, not as serious, but believe me you need to regain confidence in using it.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 2, 2015 15:05:27 GMT
Just in time to get a pre season in at Liverpool.....
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Post by andylgr on Feb 2, 2015 15:05:45 GMT
Great news. I don't recall ever feeling so down about the loss of a player through injury as I did last week.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 2, 2015 15:08:21 GMT
My testes are still pulsating rapidly, I just want to roll around naked in a field of nettles.
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Feb 2, 2015 15:12:26 GMT
My testes are still pulsating rapidly, I just want to roll around naked in a field of nettles. Me to but for a totally different reason.
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Post by manumasochist on Feb 2, 2015 15:17:23 GMT
A replaced ACL from a cadaver would have been stronger. He may recover a little sooner, but it is more likely to happen again and will never be as strong as it was, before it went.
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 2, 2015 15:20:54 GMT
A replaced ACL from a cadaver would have been stronger. He may recover a little sooner, but it is more likely to happen again and will never be as strong as it was, before it went. Over my dead body! Errr
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Post by lewando on Feb 2, 2015 15:24:40 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 2, 2015 16:11:05 GMT
A replaced ACL from a cadaver would have been stronger. He may recover a little sooner, but it is more likely to happen again and will never be as strong as it was, before it went. It would be stronger, but with less flexibility. The player and the club will just have to trust the advice of the experts I suppose.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Feb 2, 2015 16:13:31 GMT
Sounds like me on a good night.
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Post by manumasochist on Feb 2, 2015 16:24:21 GMT
A replaced ACL from a cadaver would have been stronger. He may recover a little sooner, but it is more likely to happen again and will never be as strong as it was, before it went. It would be stronger, but with less flexibility. The player and the club will just have to trust the advice of the experts I suppose. Actually, the one he has now will be less flexible, because there'll be a lot of scar tissue where the tear has healed. I'm not sure an allograft would result in less flexibility, but can do if the graft doesn't go as well as expected. It certainly may result in more pain though as it's more invasive and may require second surgeries to remove pins, but the pain should go away after about a year and can be handled with cortisone injections during training and game days (assuming this does not breach regulations). The bonus of an allograft is a much stronger acl can be inserted than was there before for someone with a small build like Bojan. This would make his acl actually stronger than it was before! The club want him back sooner and will risk it going again. It's a gamble, because if he stays healthy, great. If it goes again, he will definitely be out for a year, after already being out for 4 - 6 months.
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Post by Gods on Feb 2, 2015 16:30:00 GMT
A replaced ACL from a cadaver would have been stronger. He may recover a little sooner, but it is more likely to happen again and will never be as strong as it was, before it went. Don't know about manchesterunitedmasochist but you seem to be taking a sadistic pleasure in the Bojan injury. Here is your previous offering on the same subject: "His knee will never be the same though. It will tighten up a lot, have a lot of pain and could go again." Since you never even offer an 'unfortunately' among your doom laden and unsubstantiated assessments I am trying to work out what your agenda is here If I didn't know better I would think you are quite pleased about this injury and if it could prove to be permanent then xmas will have come early for you.
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Post by manumasochist on Feb 2, 2015 16:33:33 GMT
A replaced ACL from a cadaver would have been stronger. He may recover a little sooner, but it is more likely to happen again and will never be as strong as it was, before it went. Don't know about manchesterunitedmasochist but you seem to be taking a sadistic pleasure in the Bojan injury. Here is your previous offering on the same subject: "His knee will never be the same though. It will tighten up a lot, have a lot of pain and could go again." Since you never even offer an 'unfortunately' among your doom laden and unsubstantiated assessments I am trying to work out what your agenda is here I'm not trying to be nasty and I was wrong; It could be stronger, but not if they let the tear heal, but a full replacement graft could be stronger. Hoping for a quicker return may not be the best outcome. If he's out for the season anyway, it might be better to do the job properly.
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Post by mailman44 on Feb 2, 2015 16:34:22 GMT
I have to believe my shrine to Bojan played a part in this good news. I ordered a SuperStarz figurine from the club shop and when it arrived in the post I set up a little shrine to the wee man. Put the figurine on a pedestal, two candles on either side, and put the family on shifts to make sure our Bojan was never alone. May sacrifice one of the cats now at my Bojan altar to get him in the side for our upcoming day at Wembley .....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 17:32:09 GMT
It would be stronger, but with less flexibility. The player and the club will just have to trust the advice of the experts I suppose. Actually, the one he has now will be less flexible, because there'll be a lot of scar tissue where the tear has healed. I'm not sure an allograft would result in less flexibility, but can do if the graft doesn't go as well as expected. It certainly may result in more pain though as it's more invasive and may require second surgeries to remove pins, but the pain should go away after about a year and can be handled with cortisone injections during training and game days (assuming this does not breach regulations). The bonus of an allograft is a much stronger acl can be inserted than was there before for someone with a small build like Bojan. This would make his acl actually stronger than it was before! The club want him back sooner and will risk it going again. It's a gamble, because if he stays healthy, great. If it goes again, he will definitely be out for a year, after already being out for 4 - 6 months. If you can prove you are an nationally renouned knee specialist who has access to his MRI scans and has performed a full physical examination on Bojan then I'll except your assessment ( of course you can't because that would be a massive breach of confidentiality) There's too many experts on here to be honest. Do you honestly think the club would put him at risk for the sake of a few months? Stop being so pessimistic, this is fabulous news.
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Post by werrington on Feb 2, 2015 17:38:28 GMT
Madness to even contemplate playing in May
Leave it until pre season
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Post by manumasochist on Feb 2, 2015 17:43:02 GMT
Actually, the one he has now will be less flexible, because there'll be a lot of scar tissue where the tear has healed. I'm not sure an allograft would result in less flexibility, but can do if the graft doesn't go as well as expected. It certainly may result in more pain though as it's more invasive and may require second surgeries to remove pins, but the pain should go away after about a year and can be handled with cortisone injections during training and game days (assuming this does not breach regulations). The bonus of an allograft is a much stronger acl can be inserted than was there before for someone with a small build like Bojan. This would make his acl actually stronger than it was before! The club want him back sooner and will risk it going again. It's a gamble, because if he stays healthy, great. If it goes again, he will definitely be out for a year, after already being out for 4 - 6 months. If you can prove you are an nationally renouned knee specialist who has access to his MRI scans and has performed a full physical examination on Bojan then I'll except your assessment ( of course you can't because that would be a massive breach of confidentiality) There's too many experts on here to be honest. Do you honestly think the club would put him at risk for the sake of a few months? Stop being so pessimistic, this is fabulous news. I wasn't being pessimistic. If I was, I'd be saying that Bojan will never be as good after the injury, or some shit like that. All I am saying is the severity of a torn ACL that will keep him out long enough to miss the rest of the season, may have better options than doing the minimum and bringing him back to training a.s.a.p. If there's a window between now and the preseason to get him as healthy as possible, with enough time to get his fitness back, that may be preferable than just getting him back healthy enough, with the risk of the injury returning.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 2, 2015 17:47:10 GMT
He will come back as Super Bojan. His powers will mean he stays 24 forever has lasers for eyes. Modern medicine is amazing
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Post by Gods on Feb 2, 2015 17:50:29 GMT
If you can prove you are an nationally renouned knee specialist who has access to his MRI scans and has performed a full physical examination on Bojan then I'll except your assessment ( of course you can't because that would be a massive breach of confidentiality) There's too many experts on here to be honest. Do you honestly think the club would put him at risk for the sake of a few months? Stop being so pessimistic, this is fabulous news. I wasn't being pessimistic. If I was, I'd be saying that Bojan will never be as good after the injury, or some shit like that. All I am saying is the severity of a torn ACL that will keep him out long enough to miss the rest of the season, may have better options than doing the minimum and bringing him back to training a.s.a.p. If there's a window between now and the preseason to get him as healthy as possible, with enough time to get his fitness back, that may be preferable than just getting him back healthy enough, with the risk of the injury returning. You already did say that in an earlier message. Here is exactly what you said: "His knee will never be the same though. It will tighten up a lot, have a lot of pain and could go again."
I am not 100% sure but I think you are on a wind up.
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Post by kurt on Feb 2, 2015 17:53:02 GMT
Very good news
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Post by rawli on Feb 2, 2015 17:55:42 GMT
Knew he was faking it.
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