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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 28, 2015 10:06:11 GMT
He hardly pulled up any trees when he was last in the Prem, and that was surrounded by the likes of Keane, Ronaldo, Scholes and Van Nistlehorse and he was 13 years younger and a lot fitter. Car Crash signing for me. H To be fair mate, he didn't do too badly after his failure at United. Wrong club, wrong role at the wrong time perhaps? Saying that, I'd have thought he was way best his sell by.
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Post by Gods on Jan 28, 2015 10:08:39 GMT
I suppose the question on everyone's lips is does he still wear that Alice band in the second half of his 30's and the answer seems to be 'yes'. Would he be our first footballer with such an accoutrement since Patrik Berger's loan spell in 2006? Or did Tuncay have one? He should have done but I just don't recall if he did.
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Post by RAF on Jan 28, 2015 10:12:16 GMT
He hardly pulled up any trees when he was last in the Prem, and that was surrounded by the likes of Keane, Ronaldo, Scholes and Van Nistlehorse and he was 13 years younger and a lot fitter. Car Crash signing for me. H To be fair mate, he didn't do too badly after his failure at United. Wrong club, wrong role at the wrong time perhaps? Saying that, I'd have thought he was way best his sell by. My point really was the 'Prem'. We all know it's a different league to the others. Yes he played well again when he went abroad, but my point was if he couldn't cut it over here when he was at his peak, then I don't think there is much point now. H
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 28, 2015 10:16:35 GMT
Even if he was a bloody world-beater last time around, there's certainly no point in him coming to us at 35. I thought Cassano for the rest of the season on loan was a great shout.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 28, 2015 10:19:36 GMT
35 - way past his best in terms of fitness I imagine... bojan role requires a high energy player. I'm hoping Ireland seizes this chance.I hope so too, but feel he has had his chance and not risen to the challenge. Maybe him seeing how Bojan has recovered his form will inspire him to recover his ManC form. I also don't want an old has been like Forlan, but if MH thinks he will help the cause for the remainder of the season, I'll back his judgement based on his signings so far (I know not all successful) and the way Whelan, N'zonzi, Adam have improved under his management.
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Post by crouchbot on Jan 28, 2015 10:26:55 GMT
Even if he was a bloody world-beater last time around, there's certainly no point in him coming to us at 35. I thought Cassano for the rest of the season on loan was a great shout. Kind of contradicting yourself in that statement mate, Cassano is mid 30's as well. I suggested Cassano and I'd be happy with Forlan, he became twice the player he was at the shit and although he's getting on, he's the flair we'd need in the hole behind the striker. His dead ball delivery is amazing too, so it's a yes from me.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 28, 2015 10:38:16 GMT
Even if he was a bloody world-beater last time around, there's certainly no point in him coming to us at 35. I thought Cassano for the rest of the season on loan was a great shout. Kind of contradicting yourself in that statement mate, Cassano is mid 30's as well. I suggested Cassano and I'd be happy with Forlan, he became twice the player he was at the shit and although he's getting on, he's the flair we'd need in the hole behind the striker. His dead ball delivery is amazing too, so it's a yes from me. I thought Cassano was only 32. I think the type of player Forlan is means that at 35 he wouldn't offer us what he should. Unlike Pirlo for example
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Post by santy on Jan 28, 2015 10:42:11 GMT
Cassano is 32, but neither player would be able to play the same way as Bojan does, we would have to adapt to a more drifting around upfront role which either one could do quite well based on their abilities. Bojan has the added extra of being mobile and fit enough to drift out to the flanks and dropping deeper as well which means you'd probably want Walters in the side ahead of a player like Forlan so that someone is tracking back a bit.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 28, 2015 10:44:57 GMT
Attachment Deleted"Oi Forlan....NO!!!!! You may have delighted us with your silky skills in past world cups, but that DOESNT give you the right to mince araand on the field of play sportin girly 'airbands!"
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 28, 2015 10:49:52 GMT
So not only do I have to deal with not seeing Bojan for 6 months, I have to deal with the fact that his short term replacement could be fucking Diego fucking Forlan?
Are you taking the piss Stoke? We go from trying to sign Xherdan Shaqiri to a fucking 97 year old Diego Forlan, who as RAF says, was a clattering abortion in the Premier League even when he wasn't a pensioner.
This had better be bollocks, the amount of players in world football I refuse to believe anyone at Stoke City would even considering sanctioning a move for this fossil.
Like replacing a Lamborghini with a fucking Hillman Imp.
Now I'm even more pissed off than I was yesterday.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 28, 2015 10:54:31 GMT
Cassano is 32, but neither player would be able to play the same way as Bojan does, we would have to adapt to a more drifting around upfront role which either one could do quite well based on their abilities. Bojan has the added extra of being mobile and fit enough to drift out to the flanks and dropping deeper as well which means you'd probably want Walters in the side ahead of a player like Forlan so that someone is tracking back a bit. I thought Cassano's assists stats were excellent though? Playing behind Diouf would be an interesting option but we're not linked are we?
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Post by unknown182 on Jan 28, 2015 10:56:37 GMT
Cassano is suited to the "Bojan role" more than Forlan. He's never had great pace but his passing and vision is superb.
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Post by santy on Jan 28, 2015 11:00:46 GMT
Cassano certainly can play in role behind the striker, I would say its more akin to a Bergkamp in his latter years in the way he plays, rather than with the dynamic play style of Bojan. Diouf could also be a shout for playing ahead of/infront of a Forlan/Cassano type.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 28, 2015 11:03:43 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Jan 28, 2015 11:06:34 GMT
Even if he was a bloody world-beater last time around, there's certainly no point in him coming to us at 35. I thought Cassano for the rest of the season on loan was a great shout. Forlan was pretty good in the recent World Cup when I saw him play!
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2015 11:07:28 GMT
After 90% of this message board thought moses was a useless money grabbing wanker before he came to us, and bojan was going be too small and lightweight for the premier league it's pointless debating it.
Always love the quotes about he didn't do it at one club so he's shit. Does that apply to hughes then.
so narrow minded some. I give up.
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Post by KevinWhimper on Jan 28, 2015 11:10:25 GMT
He's 35. End of for me.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 28, 2015 11:10:42 GMT
How old was Henrik Laarson when he turned up at utd?
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Post by RAF on Jan 28, 2015 11:17:55 GMT
After 90% of this message board thought moses was a useless money grabbing wanker before he came to us, and bojan was going be too small and lightweight for the premier league it's pointless debating it. Always love the quotes about he didn't do it at one club so he's shit. Does that apply to hughes then. so narrow minded some. I give up. Has anyone actually said he didn't do it at one club so he's shit? I don't think they have. What has been suggested is that at his peak he couldn't hack it in the Prem, why would he be able to do it now when he is 35 and well past his sell by date? Been a great player no doubt, but I think there are better options out there. H
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Post by RAF on Jan 28, 2015 11:19:52 GMT
How old was Henrik Laarson when he turned up at utd? 36 with a goal scoring ration of 1 in 7 H
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Post by stokienorthants on Jan 28, 2015 11:24:09 GMT
Please no. Have we not learnt from the past players such as Paul Stewart Michael Own and Gudjhonsen were all past their best when they decided to join us. Sir Stan being the exception that proves the rule. As Bill Shankley once said ""when your players' legs go make sure they are playing for someone else"'.
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Post by philb on Jan 28, 2015 11:26:04 GMT
Would be ok on a short term deal til end of season maybe.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jan 28, 2015 11:34:19 GMT
I hope I'm proved wrong but Ireland can't be a replacement for Bojan, he's been terrible this season, he gives the ball away more than anyone else, when he does have a good game he's never consistent for the next game. He had a good game Monday but that was against League One opposition and he scored 2 goals as a sub against Wrexham. He's more of a impact player for me and even then I'm not 100% convinced by him. As I say I hope to be proved wrong.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jan 28, 2015 11:44:59 GMT
Not a replacement for Bojan at all.
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Post by lordb on Jan 28, 2015 12:14:48 GMT
Are all 35 old players no good/past it even on loan?
Really?
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Post by philb on Jan 28, 2015 12:24:47 GMT
Are all 35 old players no good/past it even on loan? Really? I think it's a general consensus that he's not really what we're looking for rather than his age being a problem.
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Post by ttownstokie on Jan 28, 2015 12:41:47 GMT
Well past it…no ta
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Post by jarvinski on Jan 28, 2015 13:26:56 GMT
I loved my hillman imp.......just saying
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 28, 2015 13:32:49 GMT
After 90% of this message board thought moses was a useless money grabbing wanker before he came to us, and bojan was going be too small and lightweight for the premier league it's pointless debating it. Always love the quotes about he didn't do it at one club so he's shit. Does that apply to hughes then. so narrow minded some. I give up. 90% of statistics are made up and the other 20% are just wrong.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jan 28, 2015 13:48:20 GMT
After 90% of this message board thought moses was a useless money grabbing wanker before he came to us, and bojan was going be too small and lightweight for the premier league it's pointless debating it. Always love the quotes about he didn't do it at one club so he's shit. Does that apply to hughes then. so narrow minded some. I give up. 90% of statistics are made up and the other 20% are just wrong. And -10% are right!
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