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Post by beagriestache on May 2, 2008 17:43:11 GMT
What a nice place S-o-T must be to live, if nine BNP councillors can get elected.
Will it be the first place in the country to have a BNP held council do you think? What an accolade that will be.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2008 17:45:02 GMT
It's a democracy.
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Post by beagriestache on May 2, 2008 17:46:50 GMT
It is until the BNP become a majority!
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on May 2, 2008 17:48:03 GMT
bnp dont represent working class people any more than the tories or labour do.. cant blame voters, people just dont know who to vote for anymore ... nazis have always fed on disillusionment, frustration etc.
doesnt mean s-o-t isnt a nice place to live, just reflects we've been shit on more than most and people are getting desperate for some sort of alternative.
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on May 2, 2008 17:48:59 GMT
It is until the BNP become a majority! and fully agree with that point tache |
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Post by beagriestache on May 2, 2008 17:49:57 GMT
Why is it always the run-down areas that attract most BNP support?
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on May 2, 2008 17:52:18 GMT
because as i said they feed on disillusionment, frustration and fear. labour have whipped on tensions to try and distract from their own role imo and now the bnp can reap the benefits.
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Post by beagriestache on May 2, 2008 17:54:13 GMT
yes, it's sad that people look for someone to have a go at i.e. immigrants when the economics take a downturn, yet don't when times are good.
You'd think they would realise this?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 2, 2008 17:55:03 GMT
Why is it always the run-down areas that attract most BNP support? Because like it or not that's where there are more uneducated people.  |
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on May 2, 2008 18:01:55 GMT
well if you want a lineage - the media whips up racial tensions - media is owned by people like murdoch(spit) and murdoch supports labour in exchange for tax exemptions... so if the government want to distract attention from themselves they can release some bias shite about immigrants to the sun, notw, star.... at the same time tories put bullshit in the mail, telegraph, express, standard etc
tis all fucking corrupt
p.s for anyone voting bnp who worked in steel/pits/pots.. bnp council leader walker is now talking about getting rid of voluntary redundencies and payouts when companies fuck off to indonesia or wherever. so bnp would make it so if our jobs go, we get fuck all and have to go on the dole to find work. same thing labour or the tories would want to do given half the chance
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Post by Premier League Busta Rhymes on May 2, 2008 18:02:42 GMT
Fcuking idiots voting the BNP  What a joke, they have no policies and will do bugger all. Stoke needs sorting out big time |
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Post by starkiller on May 2, 2008 18:04:23 GMT
People who don't fucking work and breed like rats shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on May 2, 2008 18:04:48 GMT
Fcuking idiots voting the BNP What a joke, they have no policies and will do bugger all. Stoke needs sorting out big time Correct, although I'd add "racist" before the word idiots myself. |
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Post by bostedclog on May 2, 2008 18:05:15 GMT
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/7378939.stmAn absolute fucking disgrace that the National front/BBP have won so may votes/seats in Stoke -on Trent .I am totally ashamed.It is a disaster for local businesses and the image of of our once proud and friendly city.Everyone who voted for them ought to hang their head in total shame 
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on May 2, 2008 18:05:25 GMT
Fcuking idiots voting the BNP What a joke, they have no policies and will do bugger all. Stoke needs sorting out big time Correct, although I'd add "racist" before the word idiots myself. how about 'anti-working class' as well |
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Post by Arthurdollar on May 2, 2008 18:08:10 GMT
People who don't fucking work and breed like rats shouldn't be allowed to vote. I got 5 kids i conna afford to work, i wouldna have time to go the the pub and bookies, And those fuckin taxis are that short of dosh they are taking you the short way now. |
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Post by beagriestache on May 2, 2008 18:14:17 GMT
Everyone being 'allowed' to vote is a tricky one.
It does annoy me that some folk with no clue about who stands for what and little enthusiasm to find out are permitted to do something which could actually have quite a material impact on your own life.
It's a little like going to the hospital and asking the first member of staff, even if it's a porter or someone, to try to cure you.
It just wouldn't happen in any other area of life.
Mucking about with universal suffrage is a dodgy path however.
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on May 2, 2008 18:17:16 GMT
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/7378939.stmAn absolute fucking disgrace that the National front/BBP have won so may votes/seats in Stoke -on Trent .I am totally ashamed.It is a disaster for local businesses and the image of of our once proud and friendly city.Everyone who voted for them ought to hang their head in total shame Well said that man - +1 on your Karma. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 2, 2008 18:53:47 GMT
NINE? Dear oh dear oh dear. |
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Post by beagriestache on May 2, 2008 18:59:26 GMT
says 9 on bbc website, second largest party now (joint with Tories)
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Post by Spiros on May 2, 2008 19:18:44 GMT
In the simplest of terms politically this city is seen as an impregnable labour stronghold.
This in reality means that on a central government basis Labour will never ever do anything for this city. If we were to be offered as a parliamentary candidate a steaming dog turd in a red rosette it would be carried shoulder high to Westminster. Why would labour have to buy our votes because after all, we follow like lambs to the slaughter.
Now the Conservatives. They have more chance of plaiting fog than winning a seat here. We have never even been close anything but labour Mp's in my 40 years of voting. Why should the Tories waste time and expense on a dead cause.
Lib-Dems .. Either Labour-light or Tory-light .. What an alternative, there's more substance in an instant whip!!
BNP.. well that is so far right wing, how can they make headway in a Labour (socialist) stronghold. It isn't just a race issue they have a morbid fear of the left wing.
Now that is strange. Historically the 30's and 40's had "uncle" Joe Stalin and Austrian Adolf. So disimilar they were poles apart. Or were they? Both were totalatarian dictators with a bent for mass murder of not just opponents but people who were "different."
Yes I can see why we get these BNP votes because political views would be on a circular graph. The left viewpoint and right would blur at the top of the circle.
NOW COME ON STOKE CITY FC MAKE US PROUD JUST DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bostedclog on May 2, 2008 19:27:11 GMT
BNP.. well that is so far right wing, how can they make headway in a Labour (socialist) stronghold.
because they scaremonger the working class.(they take your jobs etc)
and who in general are not educated enough (no offence)to realise the truth and are easily lead.
In truth only the working class can actually stop this disease from spreading..
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Post by robin1302 on May 2, 2008 20:01:03 GMT
Bloody great!
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Post by Tubes on May 2, 2008 20:41:37 GMT
it's easy to see why they win seats though. How many people have I seen on this very board saying they won't vote. If you don't vote, surely you have very little right to complain. |
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Post by beagriestache on May 2, 2008 20:51:41 GMT
Why is it great KidsgroveStokie?
Seriously, please explain what you think a BNP administration would be like.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 2, 2008 21:00:05 GMT
... I got the opinion he was being sarcastic...
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Post by beagriestache on May 2, 2008 21:28:49 GMT
Ah.
Shame really cos I would genuinely like to understand what BNP voters think it'd be like if they got in.
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Post by bostedclog on May 2, 2008 21:42:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2008 21:44:21 GMT
It's different for the Nazis and for BNP, Germans DID vote for Nazis, looking for a radical alternative. Although BNP could be considered as a radical alternative too, I believe it is ignorance and a lack of intelligence that leads people to vote for them.
My opinion, probably worth jack shit.
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Post by Boyceys been up the attic on May 2, 2008 21:57:15 GMT
beagriestache
You sound like a bigger fascist than the BNP or are you being ironic and it went way over my head?
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