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Post by RAF on Dec 29, 2014 10:46:22 GMT
Not really. It is a quite understandable sentiment that Dave is entitled to and makes quite a bit of sense to many. We couldn't afford his needs and who wants to return to that boring shite minimilistic excuse for football? Let someone....anyone else have him. If you enjoyed it all then fair play to you and you are right....he didn't do too badly but there again he hardly delivered the against the odds miracle the forever grateful element would have you believe. Stuff me. We have just had our most successful top flight twelve months on every measure since the 1970s and still some want to spend more time fidgeting about Pulis than discussing Mark Hughes. So it's ok to "fidget" about Pulis if you're going to make cheap jibes. But it's not ok to "fidget" if you want to offer some gratitude for a job largely well done. Ok. Cheers. It's great to have a mod pop in every now and again to clear things up. Offer some gratitude again why? He's had plenty of gratitude, even from the likes that never really took to the man, in fact he's had reams of it. Just like he had unprecedented money to spend. And let's face it , he wasn't doing it for free was he? It all worked out very well for Tony Pulis and Stoke at the time, but like has been said before he hardly did anything miraculous with the funds he had available. So yes thanks again Tony for doing your job that you were handsomely rewarded for and good luck at Brighton, Hull, Leicester, Newcastle, Palace, Forest or Brazil or wherever you end up. H
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 29, 2014 10:50:57 GMT
I don't reslly care where he goes but I think the two people who I would like to see return for a standing ovation are tony pulis and Ricardo fuller the 2 men who did more than anyone other than the chairman to turn our fortunes round .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 10:50:56 GMT
As much as I hated so many games under Tony Pulis, we would still be scrapping in the championship or lower without him....regardless of his spending the man deserves some respect.
the insulting attitude of rulers of the cake is cringeworthy......probably personal attacks due to offspring connection
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Post by RAF on Dec 29, 2014 10:58:19 GMT
As much as I hated so many games under Tony Pulis, we would still be scrapping in the championship or lower without him....regardless of his spending the man deserves some respect. the insulting attitude of rulers of the cake is cringeworthy......probably personal attacks due to offspring connection 'The Cake' hmmmmmmm where did I first hear that term used? Why do you bother with this site? H
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 11:00:24 GMT
As much as I hated so many games under Tony Pulis, we would still be scrapping in the championship or lower without him....regardless of his spending the man deserves some respect. the insulting attitude of rulers of the cake is cringeworthy......probably personal attacks due to offspring connection 'The Cake' hmmmmmmm where did I first hear that term used? Why do you bother with this site? H Why, do you not understand what I meant? i bother to use it to chat with mates and get info.....and put my penneth worth in.....is that ok? F
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 29, 2014 11:00:33 GMT
So it's ok to "fidget" about Pulis if you're going to make cheap jibes. But it's not ok to "fidget" if you want to offer some gratitude for a job largely well done. Ok. Cheers. It's great to have a mod pop in every now and again to clear things up. Offer some gratitude again why? He's had plenty of gratitude, even from the likes that never really took to the man, in fact he's had reams of it. Just like he had unprecedented money to spend. And let's face it , he wasn't doing it for free was he? It all worked out very well for Tony Pulis and Stoke at the time, but like has been said before he hardly did anything miraculous with the funds he had available. So yes thanks again Tony for doing your job that you were handsomely rewarded for and good luck at Brighton, Hull, Leicester, Newcastle, Palace, Forest or Brazil or wherever you end up. H I feel no need to offer any more gratitude than I have. That's done. It's in the past, and as you say, he's been amply rewarded. What I find odd is that it seems fine to mention Pulis in a negative sense but the second anybody mentions him in a positive light the old "living in the past" card gets played. Seems a tad hypocritical to me.
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Post by RAF on Dec 29, 2014 11:14:19 GMT
Offer some gratitude again why? He's had plenty of gratitude, even from the likes that never really took to the man, in fact he's had reams of it. Just like he had unprecedented money to spend. And let's face it , he wasn't doing it for free was he? It all worked out very well for Tony Pulis and Stoke at the time, but like has been said before he hardly did anything miraculous with the funds he had available. So yes thanks again Tony for doing your job that you were handsomely rewarded for and good luck at Brighton, Hull, Leicester, Newcastle, Palace, Forest or Brazil or wherever you end up. H I feel no need to offer any more gratitude than I have. That's done. It's in the past, and as you say, he's been amply rewarded. What I find odd is that it seems fine to mention Pulis in a negative sense but the second anybody mentions him in a positive light the old "living in the past" card gets played. Seems a tad hypocritical to me. I think some people are just getting a bit sensitive here. So what if people are saying they don't want him back? It's neither negative nor disrespectful imho. We've moved on. I don't have a problem with the daily Pulis threads, but you can't expect everyone to remember him so fondly. For some he eventually sucked the life out of the match day experience, that's just personal opinion. I don't think anyone will disagree that he did a good job up until the last 12 months, some might say right until the end in fact. H
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Post by RAF on Dec 29, 2014 11:16:49 GMT
'The Cake' hmmmmmmm where did I first hear that term used? Why do you bother with this site? H Why, do you not understand what I meant? i bother to use it to chat with mates and get info.....and put my penneth worth in.....is that ok? F Oh I understand just fine, I just find it fairly hypocritical to be calling for respect for someone when quite clearly you have none for the Admin of this site that you use for free and they mod in their own time. And actually it is only guesswork on your behalf where we would be without Pulis, not fact. H
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 29, 2014 11:17:35 GMT
'The Cake' hmmmmmmm where did I first hear that term used? Why do you bother with this site? H Why, do you not understand what I meant? i bother to use it to chat with mates and get info.....and put my penneth worth in.....is that ok? F You have mates ?
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Post by mozzer on Dec 29, 2014 11:20:52 GMT
Not really. It is a quite understandable sentiment that Dave is entitled to and makes quite a bit of sense to many. We couldn't afford his needs and who wants to return to that boring shite minimilistic excuse for football? Let someone....anyone else have him. If you enjoyed it all then fair play to you and you are right....he didn't do too badly but there again he hardly delivered the against the odds miracle the forever grateful element would have you believe. Stuff me. We have just had our most successful top flight twelve months on every measure since the 1970s and still some want to spend more time fidgeting about Pulis than discussing Mark Hughes. Hughes has walked into a stable, established premier league club thanks to what pulis did before. Hughes is doing a good job an long may it continue Im lost on this one, is it something do with Christmas........what the fuck was Sparkey doing in a stable.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 29, 2014 11:22:48 GMT
I sort of think the whole 'stable club' thing is overplayed. Would this be the club reportedly riven with dissension, that had won three games in five months?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 11:26:31 GMT
Wait till Bournemouth get promoted, then struggle, sack Eddie Howe, and appoint Lord Tony of Sandbanks......Dead handy for him. And it's his old club if I remember right.
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Post by heisenberg88 on Dec 29, 2014 11:29:30 GMT
I sort of think the whole 'stable club' thing is overplayed. Would this be the club reportedly riven with dissension, that had won three games in five months? Fair do's. But he walked into a club with a good squad of players.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Dec 29, 2014 11:44:08 GMT
You have probably heard of the Coates family and Bet365? I think they had a bit to do with it all Yep. But they arnt the only owners in the football league that have pumped millions into a club. Many owners h e done it and failed due to appointimg the wrong manager. Coates got a diamond in pulis. I think that's right. I am very glad that Peter Coates seems to be good at picking managers, and ignoring those who opposed his choice at the time. Pulis' return was a brilliant appointment, and so was Mark Hughes, despite both being opposed by many fans (including me in the first case). I am strongly pro-Pulis; strongly pro-Hughes; strongly pro-Stoke City and strongly pro-Peter Coates. What's not to like ? I wish TP well wherever he goes, except when he plays Stoke.
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Post by Sfance on Dec 29, 2014 12:26:08 GMT
OS is right. Pulis is an egotistical dinosaur. May he rot on the Hampshire beaches, or wherever the fuck he lives.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 29, 2014 12:35:58 GMT
I sort of think the whole 'stable club' thing is overplayed. Would this be the club reportedly riven with dissension, that had won three games in five months? Fair do's. But he walked into a club with a good squad of players. Hughes walked into a club that was favourite for relegation based on an appalling record in the last half of the prior season under Pulis. The squad was a mess. Attendances falling. Very little money to bring new players in. The start of last season was a deeply worrying time. The success Hughes achieved was astonishing - both in terms of points scored and a huge change in the style of football. He brought back a feel good factor that had gone from many fans. You can see that in the return to full crowds at the Brit.
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Post by march4 on Dec 29, 2014 12:37:17 GMT
Wherever TP does turn up, his new team will improve considerably over the remainder of the season.
If we ignore SCFC for a moment, his record at Palace and Plymouth were impressive.
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Post by tazi on Dec 29, 2014 12:42:15 GMT
I'd just like to say that I was there at the promotion piss up with woolywool, davef, werrington etc etc and I loved every minute of it which was made even better when staring into their eyes as yet another song broke out.
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Post by tazi on Dec 29, 2014 12:44:49 GMT
Fair do's. But he walked into a club with a good squad of players. Hughes walked into a club that was favourite for relegation based on an appalling record in the last half of the prior season under Pulis. The squad was a mess. Attendances falling. Very little money to bring new players in. The start of last season was a deeply worrying time. The success Hughes achieved was astonishing - both in terms of points scored and a huge change in the style of football. He brought back a feel good factor that had gone from many fans. You can see that in the return to full crowds at the Brit. Favourite for relegation?....Got a link to that list of odds?.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 12:48:48 GMT
Why, do you not understand what I meant? i bother to use it to chat with mates and get info.....and put my penneth worth in.....is that ok? F Oh I understand just fine, I just find it fairly hypocritical to be calling for respect for someone when quite clearly you have none for the Admin of this site that you use for free and they mod in their own time. And actually it is only guesswork on your behalf where we would be without Pulis, not fact. H You can find it how you want H..... This site is in my opinion for stoke city fans to discuss, argue, laugh and cry together...it's not a personal domain for would be kings and nodding dogs.....I'm not saying admin and others are this, I'm saying if they were this ........they are entitled to their say and I mine. Respect has to be earned......and I think Pulis, at least has earned that respect. F
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 12:54:40 GMT
Hughes has walked into a stable, established premier league club thanks to what pulis did before. Hughes is doing a good job an long may it continue You have probably heard of the Coates family and Bet365? I think they had a bit to do with it all Wasn't it Peter Coates who said if it wasn't for Tony coming back he probably wouldn't have returned himself? Only TP could have persuaded the Coates family to spend so much on players ill say again...I hated to watch it but, credit where it's due, and it's due to Tony Pulis that stoke city are in the premiership.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 29, 2014 13:07:08 GMT
Hughes walked into a club that was favourite for relegation based on an appalling record in the last half of the prior season under Pulis. The squad was a mess. Attendances falling. Very little money to bring new players in. The start of last season was a deeply worrying time. The success Hughes achieved was astonishing - both in terms of points scored and a huge change in the style of football. He brought back a feel good factor that had gone from many fans. You can see that in the return to full crowds at the Brit. Favourite for relegation?....Got a link to that list of odds?. I can't be arsed doing much digging around - but the first Google return for "premier league predictions 2013/14" pulls up this Guardian piece where we are predicted to finish one place above the bottom three but you'll see (if you read it) quite a few of their pundits predicting relegation for Stoke. This was the general feeling of pundits at the time as I recall; a tough season fighting relegation was predicted. Instead, we had our best ever premier league finish.
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Post by tazi on Dec 29, 2014 13:13:13 GMT
Favourite for relegation?....Got a link to that list of odds?. I can't be arsed doing much digging around - but the first Google return for "premier league predictions 2013/14" pulls up this Guardian piece where we are predicted to finish one place above the bottom three but you'll see (if you read it) quite a few of their pundits predicting relegation for Stoke. This was the general feeling of pundits at the time as I recall; a tough season fighting relegation was predicted. Instead, we had our best ever premier league finish. I didn't think we were the favourite for relegation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 13:20:16 GMT
I can't be arsed doing much digging around - but the first Google return for "premier league predictions 2013/14" pulls up this Guardian piece where we are predicted to finish one place above the bottom three but you'll see (if you read it) quite a few of their pundits predicting relegation for Stoke. This was the general feeling of pundits at the time as I recall; a tough season fighting relegation was predicted. Instead, we had our best ever premier league finish. I didn't think we were the favourite for relegation. Nether did I. Once Pulis was out, and Huhes in, the future looked bright.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 29, 2014 13:20:46 GMT
Numerous pundits tipped us for relegation last season.
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Post by tazi on Dec 29, 2014 13:36:44 GMT
Favourite for relegation?....Got a link to that list of odds?. I can't be arsed doing much digging around - but the first Google return for "premier league predictions 2013/14" pulls up this Guardian piece where we are predicted to finish one place above the bottom three but you'll see (if you read it) quite a few of their pundits predicting relegation for Stoke. This was the general feeling of pundits at the time as I recall; a tough season fighting relegation was predicted. Instead, we had our best ever premier league finish. So when you say we were favourite for relegation you Didn't actually mean as these odds were compiled by bookmakers but what you meant was that it was the media who portrayed us as the favourite, or as you say the pundits?.
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Post by upthefud on Dec 29, 2014 13:43:47 GMT
Offer some gratitude again why? He's had plenty of gratitude, even from the likes that never really took to the man, in fact he's had reams of it. Just like he had unprecedented money to spend. And let's face it , he wasn't doing it for free was he? It all worked out very well for Tony Pulis and Stoke at the time, but like has been said before he hardly did anything miraculous with the funds he had available. So yes thanks again Tony for doing your job that you were handsomely rewarded for and good luck at Brighton, Hull, Leicester, Newcastle, Palace, Forest or Brazil or wherever you end up. H From the man who never wanted to attend another home game under Pulis and Coates. Some people are best ignored
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Post by salopstick on Dec 29, 2014 13:53:22 GMT
To be honest the "tony Pulis is your only hope" was pretty hilarious in the south stand yesterday
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 29, 2014 14:08:28 GMT
I can't be arsed doing much digging around - but the first Google return for "premier league predictions 2013/14" pulls up this Guardian piece where we are predicted to finish one place above the bottom three but you'll see (if you read it) quite a few of their pundits predicting relegation for Stoke. This was the general feeling of pundits at the time as I recall; a tough season fighting relegation was predicted. Instead, we had our best ever premier league finish. So when you say we were favourite for relegation you Didn't actually mean as these odds were compiled by bookmakers but what you meant was that it was the media who portrayed us as the favourite, or as you say the pundits?. The evidence I can get easily is from pundits. But they were also reflected in bookies odds at that time. But I've no idea how to prove that. The point is, when Hughes arrived, the general view was he was taking on a team destined for a relegation battle with many folk predicting actual relegation. That was the legacy left by Pulis. But help me out here; your reason for seeking clarification is what exactly?
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Post by RAF on Dec 29, 2014 14:08:54 GMT
Offer some gratitude again why? He's had plenty of gratitude, even from the likes that never really took to the man, in fact he's had reams of it. Just like he had unprecedented money to spend. And let's face it , he wasn't doing it for free was he? It all worked out very well for Tony Pulis and Stoke at the time, but like has been said before he hardly did anything miraculous with the funds he had available. So yes thanks again Tony for doing your job that you were handsomely rewarded for and good luck at Brighton, Hull, Leicester, Newcastle, Palace, Forest or Brazil or wherever you end up. H From the man who never wanted to attend another home game under Pulis and Coates. Some people are best ignored Just under Pulis, get your facts right sonny. H
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