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Post by Pugsley on Nov 22, 2014 18:16:40 GMT
Some of our supporters are shocking, I could swear they're desperate for him to fail. He put in three top quality crosses and two poor ones. I admit he's not all there yet, but he had more in terms of end product today than Moses. True about our supporters, some are an absolute disgrace and quite frankly thick as shit.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2014 18:17:18 GMT
I thought Arnie did some good stuff, like his interplay with Muniesa and Bojan and his movement, but his crossing was very poor and he was the wrong option to bring on - we needed pace, either by Diouf moving wide or Assaidi coming on. Like leaving Ryan Shawcross to take a corner? Running the ball out of play? Not being arsed to get back onside when we were on the attack outside their box? Talking about CL football at the start of the season... Asking Highes why he isn't playing. The man has no grip on reality. Yeah, as I said, did some good, some bad, wouldn't have brought him on.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 22, 2014 18:17:54 GMT
I never ever want to see him wear the shirt again. File with Brek Shea and Peter Kopteff This post just gave me AIDS. For fuck's sake. Absolutely ridiculous opinion. Go on then, defend your mate.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 22, 2014 18:18:30 GMT
Like leaving Ryan Shawcross to take a corner? Running the ball out of play? Not being arsed to get back onside when we were on the attack outside their box? Talking about CL football at the start of the season... Asking Highes why he isn't playing. The man has no grip on reality. Yeah, as I said, did some good, some bad, wouldn't have brought him on. A lot more bad than good though mate. If Walters had played like that this board would be in meltdown
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Post by upthefud on Nov 22, 2014 18:19:48 GMT
Some of our supporters are shocking, I could swear they're desperate for him to fail. He put in three top quality crosses and two poor ones. I admit he's not all there yet, but he had more in terms of end product today than Moses. True about our supporters, some are an absolute disgrace and quite frankly thick as shit. The thick as shit ones are those who moronically chant Arnie from the stands because it's an easy word to say. Even Carl Asaba TRIED.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Nov 22, 2014 18:19:55 GMT
Arnie drives me crackers. He has so much skill but appears too bone idle to use it. Sulks and swans around like a baby. His crosses today were woeful. I'm afraid I'm in the camp of get rid, a luxury we just cannot afford, just too inconconsistent . And to be fair there were others out there today who just did not contribute but he's the one moaning to the manager that he wants game time. I suggest he watches the game today, from when he came on and it should be pretty clear to him why he's not starting.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 22, 2014 18:20:39 GMT
I thought Arnie did some good stuff, like his interplay with Muniesa and Bojan and his movement, but his crossing was very poor and he was the wrong option to bring on - we needed pace, either by Diouf moving wide or Assaidi coming on. Diouf needed hooking at half time. He was terrible, absolutely shocking. We didn't need pace, we needed guile. They were sitting so far back it was nigh on impossible to get behind them.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 22, 2014 18:20:33 GMT
It's not so much me sticking up for him than your bollocks implication that he's equatable with either Shea or Kopteff. He's light years ahead of them in every aspect, your drawing of comparisons with those two is indicative that you're thick, on the wind up, or a bit tired and emotional.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2014 18:20:52 GMT
Yeah, as I said, did some good, some bad, wouldn't have brought him on. A lot more bad than good though mate. If Walters had played like that this board would be in meltdown It is in meltdown isn't it? We've got people going off the deep end. I think Arnie's played worse this season and I don't think he offered us nothing, but he was the wrong man to bring on.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 22, 2014 18:23:46 GMT
A lot more bad than good though mate. If Walters had played like that this board would be in meltdown It is in meltdown isn't it? We've got people going off the deep end. I think Arnie's played worse this season and I don't think he offered us nothing, but he was the wrong man to bring on. I'm going in at the deep end, I know that. For me today was the straw that broke the camels back. He's worse than he was at this stage last year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:24:17 GMT
This post just gave me AIDS. For fuck's sake. Absolutely ridiculous opinion. Go on then, defend your mate. If anybody can defend the guy after today's showing I would love to hear it. The crosses and failing to take that corner are absolutely disgraceful for a bloke earning 50K and thinks he should be in a champions league team. If you are un-able to do the basics when its really needed, the rest is just useless really.
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Nov 22, 2014 18:25:23 GMT
I thought he did alright other than his crossing which was diabolical.
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Post by mrred on Nov 22, 2014 18:26:46 GMT
Some of our supporters are shocking, I could swear they're desperate for him to fail. He put in three top quality crosses and two poor ones. I admit he's not all there yet, but he had more in terms of end product today than Moses. Three top quality crossess?? I didn't even see 3 crosses from him Not good enough today I found 2 balls in my back garden! Shite!
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2014 18:28:13 GMT
It is in meltdown isn't it? We've got people going off the deep end. I think Arnie's played worse this season and I don't think he offered us nothing, but he was the wrong man to bring on. I'm going in at the deep end, I know that. For me today was the straw that broke the camels back. He's worse than he was at this stage last year. I think it's fair to say he's not the talisman we hoped he'd be (maybe it was unfair to expect that) and he's not worth a place in the side at the moment. When the chips are down, he isn't going to drag us through the fire like Ric or Matty or Crouch or even Charlie have done in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:32:27 GMT
Some of our supporters are shocking, I could swear they're desperate for him to fail. He put in three top quality crosses and two poor ones. I admit he's not all there yet, but he had more in terms of end product today than Moses. True about our supporters, some are an absolute disgrace and quite frankly thick as shit. We have some supporters that just want to see 11 straight line runners for 90 minutes. We have fans that can't accept a manager trying to play football on financial scraps. We have fans that can't get it into their thick skulls that top quality attacking players cost fortunes we no longer have. We have fans that don't understand that cheap attacking players with supreme skill are probably broken in some way and that it might not work out in the long run or that there will be ups and downs along the way. When we are paying g out 40M for flair players that dont perform I'll join the witch hunt. When we are expecting them for 2.5M I'll back him and the manager to the hilt.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 22, 2014 18:33:15 GMT
Undoubtedly a huge talent but as frustrating as hell, I really like Arnie and want him to do well but he's just not firing on all cylinders at the moment. I don't think the huge bitchfest on this thread is justified though. Gouranga.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 22, 2014 18:33:18 GMT
I'm going in at the deep end, I know that. For me today was the straw that broke the camels back. He's worse than he was at this stage last year. I think it's fair to say he's not the talisman we hoped he'd be (maybe it was unfair to expect that) and he's not worth a place in the side at the moment. When the chips are down, he isn't going to drag us through the fire like Ric or Matty or Crouch or even Charlie have done in the past. The blokes you mention including the likes of Mama and Rory are the ones who earnt their off days. They have us so much but often come in/came in for stick. This bloke shows up, acts like he can't be arsed and he has his name shouted from the boothen. It really grates on me
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2014 18:33:26 GMT
His decision making was awful. His touch was there though and he looked a lot better than he has done. Still think Assaidi should have come on though.
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Post by Pedropotter on Nov 22, 2014 18:33:59 GMT
He's a passenger. Get rid.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2014 18:34:57 GMT
True about our supporters, some are an absolute disgrace and quite frankly thick as shit. We have some supporters that just want to see 11 straight line runners for 90 minutes. We have fans that can't accept a manager trying to play football on financial scraps. We have fans that can't get it into their thick skulls that top quality attacking players cost fortunes we no longer have. We have fans that don't understand that cheap attacking players with supreme skill are probably broken in some way and that it might not work out in the long run or that there will be ups and downs along the way. When we are paying g out 40M for flair players that dont perform I'll join the witch hunt. When we are expecting them for 2.5M I'll back him and the manager to the hilt. Can we expect you to stop referring to Walters as 'garbage' in that case then?
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 22, 2014 18:35:36 GMT
Some of our supporters are shocking, I could swear they're desperate for him to fail. He put in three top quality crosses and two poor ones. I admit he's not all there yet, but he had more in terms of end product today than Moses. MD you normally talk sense mate. I'd have taken him off and put Assaidi on after 10 minutes. He was a joke Having got home and calmed down a bit... I think people focus on the wrong things and he doesn't do himself any favours in that respect. Because he looks laid back and tries to be too clever, some supporters are going to be very quick to get on his back the moment he does something wrong, so when he does stupid things like overhitting his first cross or running the ball out of play, people go absolutely ballistic and dwell on that. Look at all the fuss over the corner that nobody took - Arnie is getting pelters for that, but really the people to blame are the coaching staff for the fact that the players had absolutely no clear direction on set pieces whatsoever. When you strip away all the peripheral stuff about the way he acts and a few stupid little things, the cold facts are that he was the best of the three substitutes and he did more in terms of output than a whole host of other players on the day. Moses is flashy and a damn good player, but today he was too busy beating his man repeatedly to bother putting a single decent ball into the box. He's escaped criticism. Arnie put two excellent crosses into the middle that produced chances and put an absolute pearler on the far post, only for Walters to have made a run into the middle instead of around the back. Only Bojan actually put more decent balls into the box. I think that because of his popularity and demeanor, there are plenty who want him to fail.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 22, 2014 18:36:11 GMT
True about our supporters, some are an absolute disgrace and quite frankly thick as shit. We have some supporters that just want to see 11 straight line runners for 90 minutes. We have fans that can't accept a manager trying to play football on financial scraps. We have fans that can't get it into their thick skulls that top quality attacking players cost fortunes we no longer have. We have fans that don't understand that cheap attacking players with supreme skill are probably broken in some way and that it might not work out in the long run or that there will be ups and downs along the way. When we are paying g out 40M for flair players that dont perform I'll join the witch hunt. When we are expecting them for 2.5M I'll back him and the manager to the hilt. A politicians answer to a shit performance. Last year those who dared criticise Arnie during his shocking run were shot down in flames on here when he came good. Stop defending the indefensible
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:36:33 GMT
We have some supporters that just want to see 11 straight line runners for 90 minutes. We have fans that can't accept a manager trying to play football on financial scraps. We have fans that can't get it into their thick skulls that top quality attacking players cost fortunes we no longer have. We have fans that don't understand that cheap attacking players with supreme skill are probably broken in some way and that it might not work out in the long run or that there will be ups and downs along the way. When we are paying g out 40M for flair players that dont perform I'll join the witch hunt. When we are expecting them for 2.5M I'll back him and the manager to the hilt. Can we expect you to stop referring to Walters as 'garbage' in that case then? You can't even see the irony in that can you? If you did you wouldn't have put it up.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2014 18:38:34 GMT
Can we expect you to stop referring to Walters as 'garbage' in that case then? You can't even see the irony in that can you? If you did you wouldn't have put it up. I can't tell with you anymore. The fact that you've gone full-on, swivel-eyed mental over Arnie means I can't tell how far it's spread to your other opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:40:27 GMT
You can't even see the irony in that can you? If you did you wouldn't have put it up. I can't tell with you anymore. The fact that you've gone full-on, swivel-eyed mental over Arnie means I can't tell how far it's spread to your other opinions. He needs games.
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Post by tazi on Nov 22, 2014 18:40:52 GMT
Leave him a fcuking lone he's world class and will come good. Don't know when but he'll come good because he just oozes quality.
Leave him alone.
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Post by BuzzB on Nov 22, 2014 18:41:35 GMT
Alot of posters on here seem to love having a scapegoat. Arnie is the sort of player to drive any manager / fan doofuckinlally! There was a passage of play today when I ranted "theres no I in team Arnie!". However, to want him gone and slaughter him the way some are on here is embarassing. It wasn't his fault Muni and Bardsley combined to fuck the game up. Some people need to take a look back at the quality of player we have now compared to when we came up. Staggering, or is it the post 2008 mob?
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Nov 22, 2014 18:42:46 GMT
Ive said it since i saw him at Hull earlier in the Season,when hes firing he,s awesome but when hes bad he,s really fuckin bad,and this season he,s been quite frankly shite, his moping around arms flinging out not chasing back attitude stinks.Like many have said his "champions League" quote must have been done for a laugh.And yet why do some fans think hes the Dogs bollox? chantin his name at every opportunity?Or is it just some of our Knuckle dragging fans who think because "he,s got some nice tatoos and seems like a bit of a lad" its ok to chant his name? I dunno i really hope he can sort his shit out and get back to the player we know he can be
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Post by adi on Nov 22, 2014 18:47:51 GMT
I thought Arnie did some good stuff, like his interplay with Muniesa and Bojan and his movement, but his crossing was very poor and he was the wrong option to bring on - we needed pace, either by Diouf moving wide or Assaidi coming on. Sorry but you are wrong. Give me SJW over him this season. Thanks Arnie but you are wank.
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Post by adi on Nov 22, 2014 18:49:27 GMT
True about our supporters, some are an absolute disgrace and quite frankly thick as shit. We have some supporters that just want to see 11 straight line runners for 90 minutes. We have fans that can't accept a manager trying to play football on financial scraps. We have fans that can't get it into their thick skulls that top quality attacking players cost fortunes we no longer have. We have fans that don't understand that cheap attacking players with supreme skill are probably broken in some way and that it might not work out in the long run or that there will be ups and downs along the way. When we are paying g out 40M for flair players that dont perform I'll join the witch hunt. When we are expecting them for 2.5M I'll back him and the manager to the hilt. So you expect shit? So you think that was acceptable? Because we paid next to nothing? Ok mate then you carry on.
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