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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 12:29:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 12:30:24 GMT
Victor isn't our player old fruit. The best players for Stoke this season who actually belong to Stoke Bego - Great signing by TP Ryan - One of the best signings in the history of the club by TP Glenda - Would walk POTY if voted on now. Top stuff TP Adam - Our only genuine goal scoring creative spark. Wonderful TP signing Crouch - Super player. Good work TP Throw in N'Zonzi, SJW and Wilson and you soon see the legacy is the backbone of our team and how poor our recent transfer dealings have been. I'm sorry Sheikh, but this is plain wrong. Please sort your agenda. I absolutely love Tony but just the content of this message is wrong. The best players this season, note the 'this season' is the term you used, not me: Bego - Fucked up in our first two games and hasn't looked his brilliant. Looked better last night but far from our best player. Still a world class keeper though, so I agree, an excellent signing. Ryan - Agree, Shawcross is probably the best signing in 20 years and is the only one keeping it together right now. Whelan - Has looked tidy when he played, but for several years looked lost at Prem level, it was Hughes who utilized him. Adam - Inconsistent. Crouch - Overpriced but has been a good signing for the club. Has played a role this year. Throw in N'Zonzi who has been outright inconsistent and for me only looked outstanding against Man Citeh and Swansea. Super Jon is on the decline. Wilson hasn't looked comfortable in any position he's played? You forget that Bardsley has shone this season (despite my initial feelings that he is no better than Cameron), Moses has looked excellent, Diouf has looked good, we know Arnautovic has it in him, Muniesa is a class act for the future. They all cost over 30M together. Thats 6 times what Hughes has spent in 18 months. Easy stick to point at a bloke who is doing it on a shoestring, whilst overlooking what the previous bloke did with a bounty. If Hughes had that level of cash to spend we'd be the new Southampton. He wanted and couldn't afford one of their best players, for example.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 30, 2014 12:34:51 GMT
I'm sorry Sheikh, but this is plain wrong. Please sort your agenda. I absolutely love Tony but just the content of this message is wrong. The best players this season, note the 'this season' is the term you used, not me: Bego - Fucked up in our first two games and hasn't looked his brilliant. Looked better last night but far from our best player. Still a world class keeper though, so I agree, an excellent signing. Ryan - Agree, Shawcross is probably the best signing in 20 years and is the only one keeping it together right now. Whelan - Has looked tidy when he played, but for several years looked lost at Prem level, it was Hughes who utilized him. Adam - Inconsistent. Crouch - Overpriced but has been a good signing for the club. Has played a role this year. Throw in N'Zonzi who has been outright inconsistent and for me only looked outstanding against Man Citeh and Swansea. Super Jon is on the decline. Wilson hasn't looked comfortable in any position he's played? You forget that Bardsley has shone this season (despite my initial feelings that he is no better than Cameron), Moses has looked excellent, Diouf has looked good, we know Arnautovic has it in him, Muniesa is a class act for the future. They all cost over 30M together. Thats 6 times what Hughes has spent in 18 months. Easy stick to point at a bloke who is doing it on a shoestring, whilst overlooking what the previous bloke did with a bounty. If Hughes had that level of cash to spend we'd be the new Southampton. He wanted and couldn't afford one of their best players, for example. I totally agree. I guess Peter is now trying to run Stoke as a more frugal business venture, which it has not been since we got into the Premiership. Tony made some excellent signings but he also threw money down the drain like I said a few days ago. Kitson 5 million, Tuncay 5 million, Palacios 8 million, Arismendi 3.5 million, Andrew Davies 2 million, Eidur 2 million, Tonge 2 million, Soares 2 million, and there's probably more than that! Which player from Southampton?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 12:36:50 GMT
They all cost over 30M together. Thats 6 times what Hughes has spent in 18 months. Easy stick to point at a bloke who is doing it on a shoestring, whilst overlooking what the previous bloke did with a bounty. If Hughes had that level of cash to spend we'd be the new Southampton. He wanted and couldn't afford one of their best players, for example. I totally agree. I guess Peter is now trying to run Stoke as a more frugal business venture, which it has not been since we got into the Premiership. Tony made some excellent signings but he also threw money down the drain like I said a few days ago. Kitson 5 million, Tuncay 5 million, Palacios 8 million, Arismendi 3.5 million, Andrew Davies 2 million, Eidur 2 million, Tonge 2 million, Soares 2 million, and there's probably more than that! Which player from Southampton? Tadic in the summer.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 30, 2014 12:37:49 GMT
I totally agree. I guess Peter is now trying to run Stoke as a more frugal business venture, which it has not been since we got into the Premiership. Tony made some excellent signings but he also threw money down the drain like I said a few days ago. Kitson 5 million, Tuncay 5 million, Palacios 8 million, Arismendi 3.5 million, Andrew Davies 2 million, Eidur 2 million, Tonge 2 million, Soares 2 million, and there's probably more than that! Which player from Southampton? Tadic in the summer. You're fucking kidding me? Christ, he looks a player and half he does. You've really just ruined my day.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 30, 2014 12:43:05 GMT
Is the lack of investment on players since Hughes took over a result of the Pulis Legacy, or is it simply that the Coates family are losing interest in the club ? The last accounts showed SCFC losses significantly reducing with the Club possibly breaking even next accounts. So, there has been a very big reduction in transfer spending as Claytonwood expenditures have also eaten into the transfer budget(as TP feared it would). It has been estimated that "The Academy' will take 8-10 years to produce players and by the time you sell them on that's more seasons on top, say 10-12 seasons. 'The family' are developing a long term strategy in a game when what matters is next Saturday's result! As for the Pulis legacy, you can't dispute most of the backbone of the team were signed by him. Also, though he spent a great deal on transfers, the Club stayed in 'The Prem'. Without 'Prem' status, the expensive Academy project wouldn't be feasible for a championship club.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 30, 2014 12:43:33 GMT
Victor isn't our player old fruit. The best players for Stoke this season who actually belong to Stoke Bego - Great signing by TP Ryan - One of the best signings in the history of the club by TP Glenda - Would walk POTY if voted on now. Top stuff TP Adam - Our only genuine goal scoring creative spark. Wonderful TP signing Crouch - Super player. Good work TP Throw in N'Zonzi, SJW and Wilson and you soon see the legacy is the backbone of our team and how poor our recent transfer dealings have been. Nzonzi you say? No I didn't say. He wasn't in my list as playing well at all, just threw the last three in as they are regular starters to make the point that despite Pulis and his 'wretched' transfer policy, 80% of our current line up were signed by him.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 30, 2014 15:21:43 GMT
They all cost over 30M together. Thats 6 times what Hughes has spent in 18 months. Easy stick to point at a bloke who is doing it on a shoestring, whilst overlooking what the previous bloke did with a bounty. If Hughes had that level of cash to spend we'd be the new Southampton. He wanted and couldn't afford one of their best players, for example. I totally agree. I guess Peter is now trying to run Stoke as a more frugal business venture, which it has not been since we got into the Premiership. Tony made some excellent signings but he also threw money down the drain like I said a few days ago. Kitson 5 million, Tuncay 5 million, Palacios 8 million, Arismendi 3.5 million, Andrew Davies 2 million, Eidur 2 million, Tonge 2 million, Soares 2 million, and there's probably more than that! Which player from Southampton? Shea, Edu, Ness, Jerome, Upson, Woodgate, Collins, Whitehead, Micky Owen, John Carew some real belters in both lists must add up to half the money he spent on players since we reached the Prem, could be a big part of the reason he was relieved of his duties, if he had been allowed to carry on with his transfer dealings he would almost certainly have bankrupted this club whether we were in the PL or not.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 30, 2014 15:30:23 GMT
I totally agree. I guess Peter is now trying to run Stoke as a more frugal business venture, which it has not been since we got into the Premiership. Tony made some excellent signings but he also threw money down the drain like I said a few days ago. Kitson 5 million, Tuncay 5 million, Palacios 8 million, Arismendi 3.5 million, Andrew Davies 2 million, Eidur 2 million, Tonge 2 million, Soares 2 million, and there's probably more than that! Which player from Southampton? Shea, Edu, Ness, Jerome, Upson, Woodgate, Collins, Whitehead, Micky Owen, John Carew some real belters in both lists must add up to half the money he spent on players since we reached the Prem, could be a big part of the reason he was relieved of his duties, if he had been allowed to carry on with his transfer dealings he would almost certainly have bankrupted this club whether we were in the PL or not. To be fair, Edu, Ness, Woodgate, Upson, Owen and Carew were all free in the sense that we only paid wages.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 30, 2014 15:30:55 GMT
No I didn't say. He wasn't in my list as playing well at all, just threw the last three in as they are regular starters to make the point that despite Pulis and his 'wretched' transfer policy, 80% of our current line up were signed by him. well duh, he only left the season before last...? What did you expect, a whole new squad?
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 30, 2014 15:32:34 GMT
No I didn't say. He wasn't in my list as playing well at all, just threw the last three in as they are regular starters to make the point that despite Pulis and his 'wretched' transfer policy, 80% of our current line up were signed by him. Not wretched but bordering on reckless, Hughes spent a fraction of the money that Pulis spent to be fair a few are relatively cheap gambles hopefully for the future, the likes of Diouf, Bardsley, Pieters, Arnie have been bought in by Hughes on the cheap or free and seem like decent business, all four costing less than one Wilson Palacios. If TP was as good as you are making out WHY was he sacked by his benefactor a man who he himself stated backed him to the hilt insisting he would never waste his money
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 30, 2014 15:37:52 GMT
Shea, Edu, Ness, Jerome, Upson, Woodgate, Collins, Whitehead, Micky Owen, John Carew some real belters in both lists must add up to half the money he spent on players since we reached the Prem, could be a big part of the reason he was relieved of his duties, if he had been allowed to carry on with his transfer dealings he would almost certainly have bankrupted this club whether we were in the PL or not. To be fair, Edu, Ness, Woodgate, Upson, Owen and Carew were all free in the sense that we only paid wages. But some on this board have already indicated that the free transfers bought in by MH are costing us colossal amounts in wages , pretty sure we paid good money for Edu though I may be wrong, we are as far as I know still paying wages for him and Ness, Carew was on £40k a week, Owen would have been on a fair whack for sitting on his arse and the other two would have been on Prem wages all in all loads of wasted money.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 30, 2014 15:45:55 GMT
How in the name of my fat hairy balls has this codswallop avoided the shit bin? There was another thread on the board last night about how great we were at set pieces under Pulis, which, since I was last online, has been anchored by another mod. In the interests of balance, I'll do the same with this one. Nice Mature influenced by mr moan moan were you
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 30, 2014 15:53:02 GMT
No I didn't say. He wasn't in my list as playing well at all, just threw the last three in as they are regular starters to make the point that despite Pulis and his 'wretched' transfer policy, 80% of our current line up were signed by him. well duh, he only left the season before last...? What did you expect, a whole new squad? He's signed 10 players and utilised the maximum 2 loans in every window, yet therump of the team remains Tone's misfits. Well duh.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 30, 2014 15:55:58 GMT
well duh, he only left the season before last...? What did you expect, a whole new squad? He's signed 10 players and utilised the maximum 2 loans in every window, yet therump of the team remains Tone's misfits. Well duh. So which has he got wrong?
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 30, 2014 18:47:00 GMT
well duh, he only left the season before last...? What did you expect, a whole new squad? He's signed 10 players and utilised the maximum 2 loans in every window, yet therump of the team remains Tone's misfits. Well duh. How much have the 10 signings made by MH amounted to ?, probably less than WP in total and who was it that signed him for £8million duh, by the way WP is still in the clubs employment and will be picking up a huge wedge of cash every week until the stupidly long contract expires that was agreed by one Tony Pulis.
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