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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 7:54:16 GMT
WTF? It's September FFS. I'll clap and support the team and manager. Guess that makes me a happy clapper then? You'll piss your knickers, moaning about long hard seasons and Pulis wouldn't have lost. WTF does that make you then? Blimey - he with the pant-wetting fixation wets pants again himself cos he thinks happy clapping comment was urging folk not to clap in literal interpretation shock horror..... I clapped loads yesterday, fully support Hughes and the team and will continue to do so and don't want Pulis back for a gold clock.......That clear? I have mearly expressed an opinion that Hughes' attitude to the winning of home games -particularly crucial in the capped ones reign - raises questions in my mind. So unless we get off the mark at home sometime soon it will start to get harder to the point of being an unwanted monkey on our backs - yes it's "only September FFS" and we have already squandered points against a newly promoted side and a team we thrashed out of sight 3 or 4 months back......... Moaning gets me through the frustration if that's ok with you...... You'd better start wringing 'em out...... But you're taking his attitude to home games based on two games this season as opposed to last season where we lost three times in the league out of 19, which suggests his 'attitude' to them is just fine, doesn't it?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 14, 2014 7:59:12 GMT
I believe Goals on Sunday has been cancelled today. They thought they had the Pulis exclusive on his departure from Palace this morning but the Oatcake have beaten them to it.
Don't miss the Newcastle issue where the Oatcake's resident clairvoyant reveal the real Jack the Ripper, who killed Lucy Beale and why the fuck Charlie Adam has played only 8 minutes in two rancid shot shy home performances this season.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Sept 14, 2014 8:45:15 GMT
I believe Goals on Sunday has been cancelled today. They thought they had the Pulis exclusive on his departure from Palace this morning but the Oatcake have beaten them to it. Don't miss the Newcastle issue where the Oatcake's resident clairvoyant reveal the real Jack the Ripper, who killed Lucy Beale and why the fuck Charlie Adam has played only 8 minutes in two rancid shot shy home performances this season. Will we be receiving the article you promised detailing how TP has brought peace to the Middle East whilst he single handed replanted the lost acres of the Amazon Forest to reverse climate change? Also would you prefer us to use the picture you sent us of TP helping Neil Armstrong down the steps of the Eagle before stepping aside to allow the Yank to be the first man on the moon or would the one where he is teaching Mother Theresa the finer points of missionary requirements in Calcutta be more appropriate for catching the one true message you wish to allow/portray of the Glorious Leader? Tazi can't wait and we have printing deadlines to worry about!
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 14, 2014 8:55:27 GMT
Is counting how many times the name tony pulis is mentioned in a magazine a new low for this board?
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 14, 2014 9:06:02 GMT
Is counting how many times the name tony pulis is mentioned in a magazine a new low for this board? Seems that way.....bunch of fuckin kids the lot of em
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 14, 2014 9:08:42 GMT
Is counting how many times the name tony pulis is mentioned in a magazine a new low for this board? You actually think I counted Thicker than my Grandmother's gravy.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 14, 2014 9:11:13 GMT
Is counting how many times the name tony pulis is mentioned in a magazine a new low for this board? You actually think I counted Thicker than my Grandmother's gravy. Of course. We believe you.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 14, 2014 9:15:16 GMT
I believe Goals on Sunday has been cancelled today. They thought they had the Pulis exclusive on his departure from Palace this morning but the Oatcake have beaten them to it. Don't miss the Newcastle issue where the Oatcake's resident clairvoyant reveal the real Jack the Ripper, who killed Lucy Beale and why the fuck Charlie Adam has played only 8 minutes in two rancid shot shy home performances this season. Will we be receiving the article you promised detailing how TP has brought peace to the Middle East whilst he single handed replanted the lost acres of the Amazon Forest to reverse climate change? Also would you prefer us to use the picture you sent us of TP helping Neil Armstrong down the steps of the Eagle before stepping aside to allow the Yank to be the first man on the moon or would the one where he is teaching Mother Theresa the finer points of missionary requirements in Calcutta be more appropriate for catching the one true message you wish to allow/portray of the Glorious Leader? Tazi can't wait and we have printing deadlines to worry about! I'll leave it for you and the lads to reveal "Tony Pulis bit the head off my hamster", "is Tony Pulis the head of ISIS?" "Tony Pulis - is this Britain's most evil man?" When did the Oatcake become part of the Murdoch press?
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Post by Davef on Sept 14, 2014 9:19:22 GMT
I've just had another read of the article in The Oatcake (which I probably should've done before involving myself in this thread) and I can't honestly see why anybody would be so wound up about it or consider it to be vehemently anti TP.
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 14, 2014 9:21:19 GMT
WTF? It's September FFS. I'll clap and support the team and manager. Guess that makes me a happy clapper then? You'll piss your knickers, moaning about long hard seasons and Pulis wouldn't have lost. WTF does that make you then? Blimey - he with the pant-wetting fixation wets pants again himself cos he thinks happy clapping comment was urging folk not to clap in literal interpretation shock horror..... I clapped loads yesterday, fully support Hughes and the team and will continue to do so and don't want Pulis back for a gold clock.......That clear? I have mearly expressed an opinion that Hughes' attitude to the winning of home games -particularly crucial in the capped ones reign - raises questions in my mind. So unless we get off the mark at home sometime soon it will start to get harder to the point of being an unwanted monkey on our backs - yes it's "only September FFS" and we have already squandered points against a newly promoted side and a team we thrashed out of sight 3 or 4 months back......... Moaning gets me through the frustration if that's ok with you...... You'd better start wringing 'em out...... Home record: Win %: Hughes: 47.6%. TP: 43.2% Points per game: Hughes: 1.7. TP: 1.6. Your premise that TP knew how to win these home games just doesn't hold water.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 14, 2014 13:16:05 GMT
Blimey - he with the pant-wetting fixation wets pants again himself cos he thinks happy clapping comment was urging folk not to clap in literal interpretation shock horror..... I clapped loads yesterday, fully support Hughes and the team and will continue to do so and don't want Pulis back for a gold clock.......That clear? I have mearly expressed an opinion that Hughes' attitude to the winning of home games -particularly crucial in the capped ones reign - raises questions in my mind. So unless we get off the mark at home sometime soon it will start to get harder to the point of being an unwanted monkey on our backs - yes it's "only September FFS" and we have already squandered points against a newly promoted side and a team we thrashed out of sight 3 or 4 months back......... Moaning gets me through the frustration if that's ok with you...... You'd better start wringing 'em out...... Home record: Win %: Hughes: 47.6%. TP: 43.2% Points per game: Hughes: 1.7. TP: 1.6. Your premise that TP knew how to win these home games just doesn't hold water. Ah yes of course Hughes is 4.4% better than Pulis............jeez... This is my last comment on this as you're getting hysterical now and I don't want Mrs UKC having to rinse out any more of your pants - I never said Pulis knew how to win home games any better or worse than Hughes just that,IMHO, he wouldn't have gone down to both Villa and Leicester in our first 2 home games without a single point to show for it and Hughes appetite to get off to a solid start doesn't appear to have been what it should be - again IMHO - that's it. Nothing more nothing less ....TTFN
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 13:22:02 GMT
Home record: Win %: Hughes: 47.6%. TP: 43.2% Points per game: Hughes: 1.7. TP: 1.6. Your premise that TP knew how to win these home games just doesn't hold water. Ah yes of course Hughes is 4.4% better than Pulis............jeez... This is my last comment on this as you're getting hysterical now and I don't want Mrs UKC having to rinse out any more of your pants - I never said Pulis knew how to win home games any better or worse than Hughes just that,IMHO, he wouldn't have gone down to both Villa and Leicester in our first 2 home games without a single point to show for it and Hughes appetite to get off to a solid start doesn't appear to have been what it should be - again IMHO - that's it. Nothing more nothing less ....TTFN Actually you pretty much did say that.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Sept 14, 2014 14:08:01 GMT
I believe Goals on Sunday has been cancelled today. They thought they had the Pulis exclusive on his departure from Palace this morning but the Oatcake have beaten them to it. Don't miss the Newcastle issue where the Oatcake's resident clairvoyant reveal the real Jack the Ripper, who killed Lucy Beale and why the fuck Charlie Adam has played only 8 minutes in two rancid shot shy home performances this season. I've checked the article you mentioned earlier. It mentions that most supporters will have enjoyed the football on offer last season more than what preceded it. That, combined with Smudge discussing the eve of season departure from Palarse is well worth the hundreds of words and hand wringing emotional outbursts you have littered this thread with in my view.
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 14:16:48 GMT
I believe Goals on Sunday has been cancelled today. They thought they had the Pulis exclusive on his departure from Palace this morning but the Oatcake have beaten them to it. Don't miss the Newcastle issue where the Oatcake's resident clairvoyant reveal the real Jack the Ripper, who killed Lucy Beale and why the fuck Charlie Adam has played only 8 minutes in two rancid shot shy home performances this season. Must be one of the funniest posts I've ever read on here. Great, keep showing e'm momo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 14:18:59 GMT
Pulis did us proud and took us as far has he could - the parting was sad but inevitable, especially if we wanted to aspire to higher league positions than he could offer.
Hope he does well wherever he goes
and, if ever you are in trouble - who ya gonna call ?
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 14:20:02 GMT
I'm leaving the field to you. It's far too one flew over the cuckoos nest for my taste. If you can see anti Pulis rhetoric in the articles you mention then you have fallen in love more than I ever suspected! You have lost the plot and are beginning to slobber a bit! That's the beauty of the hard copy fanzine over the messageboard I don't have to look through reams of posts to prove I'm right which feels grubby I just go and un-wedge the oatcake from the pipe behind the bog and it's all there in glorious agendaprint! I take that back.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 14, 2014 14:39:46 GMT
Ah yes of course Hughes is 4.4% better than Pulis............jeez... This is my last comment on this as you're getting hysterical now and I don't want Mrs UKC having to rinse out any more of your pants - I never said Pulis knew how to win home games any better or worse than Hughes just that,IMHO, he wouldn't have gone down to both Villa and Leicester in our first 2 home games without a single point to show for it and Hughes appetite to get off to a solid start doesn't appear to have been what it should be - again IMHO - that's it. Nothing more nothing less ....TTFN Actually you pretty much did say that. Oh bugger, I said it was my last word.........this is though for sure ......I didn't say he knew how to win any better BUT for me, Pulis recognised the vital importance of home wins, especially early on - and it showed on the pitch for the most part in terms of desire, organisation and subbing - all of which I have found to be lacking in our first two home games against mediocre opposition. Furthermore, Pulis knew our very survival depended heavily on our home form (not least due to his own woeful limitations away from home) and set up to maximise points return at the Brit come what may - my take on Hughes and the motivation of the players against Villa and lack of good clean scoring chances yesterday seemed a bit complacent to me and although of course he is setting up to win, he probably thinks there's plenty of time and it's not such a big deal - and maybe he's right . I very much hope so.....again all IMHO only.....
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 14:52:58 GMT
Actually you pretty much did say that. Oh bugger, I said it was my last word.........this is though for sure ......I didn't say he knew how to win any better BUT for me, Pulis recognised the vital importance of home wins, especially early on - and it showed on the pitch for the most part in terms of desire, organisation and subbing - all of which I have found to be lacking in our first two home games against mediocre opposition. Furthermore, Pulis knew our very survival depended heavily on our home form (not least due to his own woeful limitations away from home) and set up to maximise points return at the Brit come what may - my take on Hughes and the motivation of the players against Villa and lack of good clean scoring chances yesterday seemed a bit complacent to me and although of course he is setting up to win, he probably thinks there's plenty of time and it's not such a big deal - and maybe he's right . I very much hope so.....again all IMHO only..... I don't think Hughes considers it any less important than Pulis, as last season's excellent home form (three defeats in the league all season) would suggest.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 14, 2014 19:10:13 GMT
Oh bugger, I said it was my last word.........this is though for sure ......I didn't say he knew how to win any better BUT for me, Pulis recognised the vital importance of home wins, especially early on - and it showed on the pitch for the most part in terms of desire, organisation and subbing - all of which I have found to be lacking in our first two home games against mediocre opposition. Furthermore, Pulis knew our very survival depended heavily on our home form (not least due to his own woeful limitations away from home) and set up to maximise points return at the Brit come what may - my take on Hughes and the motivation of the players against Villa and lack of good clean scoring chances yesterday seemed a bit complacent to me and although of course he is setting up to win, he probably thinks there's plenty of time and it's not such a big deal - and maybe he's right . I very much hope so.....again all IMHO only..... I don't think Hughes considers it any less important than Pulis, as last season's excellent home form (three defeats in the league all season) would suggest. ....and what chance of bettering that this season seeing as we're already 2 down....
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 21:07:09 GMT
I don't think Hughes considers it any less important than Pulis, as last season's excellent home form (three defeats in the league all season) would suggest. ....and what chance of bettering that this season seeing as we're already 2 down.... But that doesn't mean Hughes doesn't think it's important to win or has any kind of lax attitude towards home games does it? Unless you're seriously suggesting that the evidence of two games this season is a fairer reflection than over 19 last season?
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Post by mcf on Sept 15, 2014 7:38:01 GMT
I've just had another read of the article in The Oatcake (which I probably should've done before involving myself in this thread) and I can't honestly see why anybody would be so wound up about it or consider it to be vehemently anti TP. I think the point is that if you were truly going to have a block on mentioning the bloke then was it really worth breaking that promise to have a dig at him? A dig that could well be unfair as well. That said, I was not surprised on the slightest.
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Post by mcf on Sept 15, 2014 7:41:44 GMT
...and the only posts that are locked or anchored seem to be Pulis related threads.
Pathetic.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 15, 2014 7:45:38 GMT
....and what chance of bettering that this season seeing as we're already 2 down.... But that doesn't mean Hughes doesn't think it's important to win or has any kind of lax attitude towards home games does it? Unless you're seriously suggesting that the evidence of two games this season is a fairer reflection than over 19 last season? Yes I am - something has been lost since last season & this guy below underlines the evidence of both complacency and some eould say arrogance - maybe he sort of agrees with me !! "Stoke’s grip on the game lessened but Mark Hughes bizarrely didn’t react, and we continued to huff and puff." "Yet still the manager did nothing but watch, calmly and impassively, from his technical area, until well after we’d fallen behind, suckered on the counter for the second successive home game." "Hughes’ reluctance to make subs is all the more puzzling given that the decisive changes he’s made in the past have often yielded results" "Because we were predictable. Because we gave another soft goal away. And because the visitors twisted while we stuck. The manager has to point his finger at the man in the mirror for this one." "Hughes’ selection of Walters didn’t help – the number 19 is simply not the right option out wide when you need to break teams down" From our perspective though, it was a total shambles. To a man, our defence was ball watching, failing to track the advancing danger men." "Thus winnable games have slipped through our fingers. That’s worrying at any stage of the season."
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 15, 2014 12:03:48 GMT
But that doesn't mean Hughes doesn't think it's important to win or has any kind of lax attitude towards home games does it? Unless you're seriously suggesting that the evidence of two games this season is a fairer reflection than over 19 last season? Yes I am - something has been lost since last season & this guy below underlines the evidence of both complacency and some eould say arrogance - maybe he sort of agrees with me !! "Stoke’s grip on the game lessened but Mark Hughes bizarrely didn’t react, and we continued to huff and puff." "Yet still the manager did nothing but watch, calmly and impassively, from his technical area, until well after we’d fallen behind, suckered on the counter for the second successive home game." "Hughes’ reluctance to make subs is all the more puzzling given that the decisive changes he’s made in the past have often yielded results" "Because we were predictable. Because we gave another soft goal away. And because the visitors twisted while we stuck. The manager has to point his finger at the man in the mirror for this one." "Hughes’ selection of Walters didn’t help – the number 19 is simply not the right option out wide when you need to break teams down" From our perspective though, it was a total shambles. To a man, our defence was ball watching, failing to track the advancing danger men." "Thus winnable games have slipped through our fingers. That’s worrying at any stage of the season." I still don't see how that's complacency or Hughes not giving a shit. His weird attitude to subs could be seen throughout last season as well.
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 15, 2014 13:29:08 GMT
But that doesn't mean Hughes doesn't think it's important to win or has any kind of lax attitude towards home games does it? Unless you're seriously suggesting that the evidence of two games this season is a fairer reflection than over 19 last season? Yes I am - something has been lost since last season & this guy below underlines the evidence of both complacency and some eould say arrogance - maybe he sort of agrees with me !! "Stoke’s grip on the game lessened but Mark Hughes bizarrely didn’t react, and we continued to huff and puff." "Yet still the manager did nothing but watch, calmly and impassively, from his technical area, until well after we’d fallen behind, suckered on the counter for the second successive home game." "Hughes’ reluctance to make subs is all the more puzzling given that the decisive changes he’s made in the past have often yielded results" "Because we were predictable. Because we gave another soft goal away. And because the visitors twisted while we stuck. The manager has to point his finger at the man in the mirror for this one." "Hughes’ selection of Walters didn’t help – the number 19 is simply not the right option out wide when you need to break teams down" From our perspective though, it was a total shambles. To a man, our defence was ball watching, failing to track the advancing danger men." "Thus winnable games have slipped through our fingers. That’s worrying at any stage of the season." You think that is evidence that MH doesn't give a shit about early home form? You think he's just sitting there on the bench going, "I can't really be bothered to try and win this game" and "I really can't be arsed to make an early sub. Too much like hard work". "I'll play Walters - who wants to win"? Sometimes you don't win. Sometimes the sub decisions with hindsight look crap (or even at the time). It happens. Doesn't mean there is complacency or a lack of a will to win.
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Post by stokeramblers on Sept 15, 2014 15:12:23 GMT
I think between the magazine and here, there have been plenty of 'just move on' and 'let it go' pieces. Some of them heavy booted ones. Which is why it's all a bit odd that two provocative Pulis pieces have appeared in the first two editions 18 months after his departure? What are you talking about? Seriously? You think a manager walking out of a Premier League club two days before a season starts on the basis he didn't get his own way isn't worthy of comment? What was this other provocative piece? This is the Pulis Force Commander at his finest! I remember the one we had in the Oatcake when ONeill did it to Villa.. It was big news if I remember rightly.
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Post by luke45 on Sept 15, 2014 15:36:01 GMT
I thoroughly enjoyed the fanzine overall as always but I wasn't too impressed by this article either. I haven't read anywhere that Pulis left Palace because he " wasn't allowed to spend as much money as he wanted to " and Palace weren't " forced " to turn to Warnock either as the article suggested. The fact they did turn to Warnock though may back up the suggestions that Palace haven't got a wealth of riches available to spend at the moment. There was another suggestion that Pulis left Palace because he didn't want Zaha and the owner did, this isn't mentioned in the Oatcake article though and it just as plausible as any other theory that has been suggested. The article ends by saying Pulls let the Palace supporters down by leaving three days before the season started, perhaps Parish is the one who let the supporters down by giving TP false promises and trying to go above his head with the signature of Zaha.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Sept 15, 2014 16:05:43 GMT
I've always thought the extra time Pulis took in agreeing to take over could well have been about guaratees regarding control over transfers. Would also be no surprise if it was why he left.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 15, 2014 16:11:49 GMT
I thoroughly enjoyed the fanzine overall as always but I wasn't too impressed by this article either. I haven't read anywhere that Pulis left Palace because he " wasn't allowed to spend as much money as he wanted to " and Palace weren't " forced " to turn to Warnock either as the article suggested. The fact they did turn to Warnock though may back up the suggestions that Palace haven't got a wealth of riches available to spend at the moment. There was another suggestion that Pulis left Palace because he didn't want Zaha and the owner did, this isn't mentioned in the Oatcake article though and it just as plausible as any other theory that has been suggested. The article ends by saying Pulls let the Palace supporters down by leaving three days before the season started, perhaps Parish is the one who let the supporters down by giving TP false promises and trying to go above his head with the signature of Zaha. Spot on. It is a biased pieced where blanks have been filled in to support the authors agenda.
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Post by mcf on Sept 15, 2014 16:37:23 GMT
Managers that are twats tend to be those that just quit their current posts to fuck off for another, bigger and better job for more money. That wasn't the case here unless he's being lined up the West Sham or Newcastle jobs. I think TP was a bigger twat for just ditching Plymouth for us than what he did at Palarse where things were always strained. Like the Palarse chairman himself said, neither party owed each other anything. So in conclusion, after setting itself a daft rule, it then breaks that rule for a daft reason which is equally daft in content.
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