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Post by march4 on Sept 9, 2014 21:47:39 GMT
Their best chance of staying up is to sack their current manager and appoint TP asap. You're joking, right? Pearson took us from our lowest point ever, in league one, to the premier league. He took Svens expensive, mid-table team and drastically cut the wage bill, improved our style of football, made some fantastic signings on the cheap, and most importantly, improved our results. He is a fantastic manager, and I have no doubt that he'll be able to prove himself in this division. I agree that TP would keep us up. But at what cost? Don't forget Pearson worked on the coaching staff at SCFC for a while - so we know all about him. He'll struggle when you lose 4 or 5 consecutive games (as many in the Prem will) and there will be a danger he won't stop the rot. TP is the best man in the world at keeping clubs in the Prem. He plays a game of football full of aggressive challenges and committed players. He will develop a siege mentality that will galvanise fans and players alike. He will however want full control of all aspects of the club. If you want to guarantee survival, there really is no one better. I must say that I enjoyed meeting lots of Leicester fans at the cup game last season. I wished them well on that occasion and all being well you'll do enough to survive. I can't help feeling that the Jan transfer window will be crucial to you, just like it was for us when we first came up.
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Post by friendlyfox on Sept 9, 2014 21:55:46 GMT
Fully understand where you are coming from and expect that over the season reality will set in. The premier league is a tough marathon not a sprint and the first aim has to be to survive, many promoted sides don't manage more than two seasons. It is easy to believe off the back of a great promotion season that you will take the new league by storm, but in truth it is unlikely. Individual results are meaningless, we lost to Villa when we expected to win and beat Man City when we expected to lose. The top 6 consistently win but lose the odd few to teams they expected to beat. Your real competition and ours are the other 13 teams, if you check it is the teams that have decent home records that tend to survive and those that grab points away that thrive. Always liked Leicester from way back and pleased to see more Midlands clubs ousting the London ones. Good luck for the season but understandably not against us. You'll be our first test in our crucial run of fixtures - from this point on, we don't play any of the "top" sides until December (unless you count Man U, lol). Come december, we'll probably have got a good idea of how likely we are to survive. I think Burnley are nailed on for relegation, but who takes the other two slots is anyones guess (though I think Palace are going to struggle now). I disagree with what the other Leicester poster said though - I think the pressure is going to be on us. We're yet to register a win, and if we fail to get a result at yours, then we'll probably be in the relegation zone. We'll probably be in better shape to face you than any other team we've faced so far at least - Drinkwater and James are generally our two starting CM's, and they both got injured in the first game of the season, but I think they should both be back for this game. plus we now have an experienced head in Cambiasso. Out of interest, how has Moses been for you? I'm worried about him against our fullbacks.
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Post by kerouac on Sept 9, 2014 22:07:29 GMT
I've just read a majority of their posts....what a cocky bunch they are.I love the distain they have for us and so want us to batter the holy fuckity fuck out of them. Delude pricks Not you though friendly fox
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Post by friendlyfox on Sept 9, 2014 22:13:25 GMT
You're joking, right? Pearson took us from our lowest point ever, in league one, to the premier league. He took Svens expensive, mid-table team and drastically cut the wage bill, improved our style of football, made some fantastic signings on the cheap, and most importantly, improved our results. He is a fantastic manager, and I have no doubt that he'll be able to prove himself in this division. I agree that TP would keep us up. But at what cost? Don't forget Pearson worked on the coaching staff at SCFC for a while - so we know all about him. He'll struggle when you lose 4 or 5 consecutive games (as many in the Prem will) and there will be a danger he won't stop the rot. TP is the best man in the world at keeping clubs in the Prem. He plays a game of football full of aggressive challenges and committed players. He will develop a siege mentality that will galvanise fans and players alike. He will however want full control of all aspects of the club. If you want to guarantee survival, there really is no one better. I must say that I enjoyed meeting lots of Leicester fans at the cup game last season. I wished them well on that occasion and all being well you'll do enough to survive. I can't help feeling that the Jan transfer window will be crucial to you, just like it was for us when we first came up. That's worrying, because it sounds all too familiar. In the season before last, we were second in table by January, before going on a ridiculously bad run (something like one win in 13 games) and he seemed helpless to do anything about it; we ended up scraping 6th in the last game of the season. We're inevitably going to hit a poor run of form at some point in the season - I just hope he's learned from his mistakes, but I still have more faith in him then any manager we've had since MON. I think Pulis and Pearson are very similar managers in many ways. I rate TP as a manager, and if someone had offered him to me after Sven left, I would have bitten your hand off. You know what to expect from him, and you're pretty much guaranteed to be safe from the drop. On the other hand, I think Pearson has more potential, and also a better eye for a bargain on the transfer market. I've just read a majority of their posts....what a cocky bunch they are.I love the distain they have for us and so want us to batter the holy fuckity fuck out of them. Delude pricks Not you though friendly fox I'll take that as a compliment! But yeah, I think a lot of our fans are still very bitter about being relegated by Stoke - it's one of those things that sticks in the memory for a good while.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 22:14:19 GMT
Fully understand where you are coming from and expect that over the season reality will set in. The premier league is a tough marathon not a sprint and the first aim has to be to survive, many promoted sides don't manage more than two seasons. It is easy to believe off the back of a great promotion season that you will take the new league by storm, but in truth it is unlikely. Individual results are meaningless, we lost to Villa when we expected to win and beat Man City when we expected to lose. The top 6 consistently win but lose the odd few to teams they expected to beat. Your real competition and ours are the other 13 teams, if you check it is the teams that have decent home records that tend to survive and those that grab points away that thrive. Always liked Leicester from way back and pleased to see more Midlands clubs ousting the London ones. Good luck for the season but understandably not against us. You'll be our first test in our crucial run of fixtures - from this point on, we don't play any of the "top" sides until December (unless you count Man U, lol). Come december, we'll probably have got a good idea of how likely we are to survive. I think Burnley are nailed on for relegation, but who takes the other two slots is anyones guess (though I think Palace are going to struggle now). I disagree with what the other Leicester poster said though - I think the pressure is going to be on us. We're yet to register a win, and if we fail to get a result at yours, then we'll probably be in the relegation zone. We'll probably be in better shape to face you than any other team we've faced so far at least - Drinkwater and James are generally our two starting CM's, and they both got injured in the first game of the season, but I think they should both be back for this game. plus we now have an experienced head in Cambiasso. Out of interest, how has Moses been for you? I'm worried about him against our fullbacks. You seem level headed, like it! Been quality so far but not had too many games or minutes on the pitch for us so it's early days yet... Should be a good even game though I think but I think the home advantage should allow us to nick it by a goal, Leicester have impressed me so far what'd you think of Ulloa? I laughed at his transfer fee but he already seems to be scoring for you!
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Post by friendlyfox on Sept 9, 2014 22:27:56 GMT
You'll be our first test in our crucial run of fixtures - from this point on, we don't play any of the "top" sides until December (unless you count Man U, lol). Come december, we'll probably have got a good idea of how likely we are to survive. I think Burnley are nailed on for relegation, but who takes the other two slots is anyones guess (though I think Palace are going to struggle now). I disagree with what the other Leicester poster said though - I think the pressure is going to be on us. We're yet to register a win, and if we fail to get a result at yours, then we'll probably be in the relegation zone. We'll probably be in better shape to face you than any other team we've faced so far at least - Drinkwater and James are generally our two starting CM's, and they both got injured in the first game of the season, but I think they should both be back for this game. plus we now have an experienced head in Cambiasso. Out of interest, how has Moses been for you? I'm worried about him against our fullbacks. You seem level headed, like it! Been quality so far but not had too many games or minutes on the pitch for us so it's early days yet... Should be a good even game though I think but I think the home advantage should allow us to nick it by a goal, Leicester have impressed me so far what'd you think of Ulloa? I laughed at his transfer fee but he already seems to be scoring for you! I was worried about Ulloa initially - he's our record transfer signing, and seeing as our previous record signing was Ade Akinbiyi, it wasn't a good omen, especially as he's not proven at Prem level (or barely championship level). That being said, first signs are good. He's not a fast player, but he's very strong, holds the ball up well, and causes problems for defenders - he wont be afraid to leave his mark on one or two of your players. It's early days yet, but he seems to have the strikers instinct of just sticking the ball in the back of the net. He's not flashy, but if he gets a chance, I'd bet on him putting it away more often than not. If there's any of our strikers that can make it at this level, it's him -Vardy might make the step up, but Nugent has no chance. If Ulloa can get 12 goals, then that's probably a good return on our money. He's also good at defending set pieces, which is definitely a bonus!
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Post by thevoid on Sept 9, 2014 22:31:50 GMT
Don't forget Pearson worked on the coaching staff at SCFC for a while - so we know all about him. He'll struggle when you lose 4 or 5 consecutive games (as many in the Prem will) and there will be a danger he won't stop the rot. TP is the best man in the world at keeping clubs in the Prem. He plays a game of football full of aggressive challenges and committed players. He will develop a siege mentality that will galvanise fans and players alike. He will however want full control of all aspects of the club. If you want to guarantee survival, there really is no one better. I must say that I enjoyed meeting lots of Leicester fans at the cup game last season. I wished them well on that occasion and all being well you'll do enough to survive. I can't help feeling that the Jan transfer window will be crucial to you, just like it was for us when we first came up. That's worrying, because it sounds all too familiar. In the season before last, we were second in table by January, before going on a ridiculously bad run (something like one win in 13 games) and he seemed helpless to do anything about it; we ended up scraping 6th in the last game of the season. We're inevitably going to hit a poor run of form at some point in the season - I just hope he's learned from his mistakes, but I still have more faith in him then any manager we've had since MON. I think Pulis and Pearson are very similar managers in many ways. I rate TP as a manager, and if someone had offered him to me after Sven left, I would have bitten your hand off. You know what to expect from him, and you're pretty much guaranteed to be safe from the drop. On the other hand, I think Pearson has more potential, and also a better eye for a bargain on the transfer market. I've just read a majority of their posts....what a cocky bunch they are.I love the distain they have for us and so want us to batter the holy fuckity fuck out of them. Delude pricks Not you though friendly fox I'll take that as a compliment! But yeah, I think a lot of our fans are still very bitter about being relegated by Stoke - it's one of those things that sticks in the memory for a good while. Sorry for getting the point we needed to guarantee promotion, it was bad form from us. Your relegation clearly had nothing to do with your own players and various managers being wank in the opening 45 fixtures of that campaign.
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Post by friendlyfox on Sept 9, 2014 22:38:37 GMT
Sorry for getting the point we needed to guarantee promotion, it was bad form from us. Your relegation clearly had nothing to do with your own players and various managers being wank in the opening 45 fixtures of that campaign. I don't disagree! But it's still hard not to associate Stoke with the relegation. That's just football for you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 10:59:16 GMT
Sorry for getting the point we needed to guarantee promotion, it was bad form from us. Your relegation clearly had nothing to do with your own players and various managers being wank in the opening 45 fixtures of that campaign. I don't disagree! But it's still hard not to associate Stoke with the relegation. That's just football for you. Best thing is, we didn't even need the point to go up.
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Post by bigmanting on Sept 10, 2014 11:30:57 GMT
Ok mate I wasnt here for an argument...and there is no need to call me a twat. Cant really see where my post is deluded either and I was being friendly!! The bit at the bottom of my post was meant tongue in cheek. to be fair I thought you were being a twat and so labelled you as such!  and it's funny you say you aren't here for an argument and you are being friendly because this line, "I particularly like the logic "never heard of anyone in the leicester squad = easy win"?? Ha okkkkaaaayyyy x" was clearly aimed at some on here I can't help comparing the two fox posters, friendly fox and you. Only one of you doesn't come across as a twat to me, and it's not friendly fox... guess who it is Luckily the majority of posters on here are adults and funnily enough you are the only one to call me an offensive name!. In case you hadn't realised this whole thread is about how misguided us leicester fans are...I decided to join for a bit of banter and tried to get my point across by picking up on a couple of the funnier comments. You my friend seem to have taken this personally?? Anyway please don't bother to reply to this I don't think I could take any more of your devastating put downs. Good luck for saturday. X
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Post by Davef on Sept 10, 2014 11:46:13 GMT
It doesn't really take much to find the pages on Foxestalk around the time of our promotion/their relegation. I've had a look at around half a dozen pages and I can't see one in which they're having a go at Stoke fans for rubbing their noses in it. I think they're making it up myself, in much the same way Cardiff fans deny their tannoy announcer asked them to stay off the pitch.
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Post by lordb on Sept 10, 2014 12:07:43 GMT
When we lost 5.2 at home to Man City in 1998 I didn't blame Man City or indeed Vale (whose win away at Huddersfield condemned both Stoke & Man City to the drop) for relegation. I blamed Coates,Humphries & Moxey for a series of spectacular bad decisions. Surprised that many LCFC fans blame Stoke for relegating them.
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Post by bigmanting on Sept 10, 2014 12:31:29 GMT
When we lost 5.2 at home to Man City in 1998 I didn't blame Man City or indeed Vale (whose win away at Huddersfield condemned both Stoke & Man City to the drop) for relegation. I blamed Coates,Humphries & Moxey for a series of spectacular bad decisions. Surprised that many LCFC fans blame Stoke for relegating them. I was there the day we got relegated and to be honest a large number of stokies seems far more intent in goading us than celebrating....but this is football and you have to take your chances to rub it in whenever possible so personally its not an issue for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 12:44:14 GMT
When we lost 5.2 at home to Man City in 1998 I didn't blame Man City or indeed Vale (whose win away at Huddersfield condemned both Stoke & Man City to the drop) for relegation. I blamed Coates,Humphries & Moxey for a series of spectacular bad decisions. Surprised that many LCFC fans blame Stoke for relegating them. I was there the day we got relegated and to be honest a large number of stokies seems far more intent in goading us than celebrating....but this is football and you have to take your chances to rub it in whenever possible so personally its not an issue for me. ???? more interested in goading you than celebrating?????? was that when the Stoke fans were so excited about being promoted that they invaded the pitch too early or the point when the whole crowd swarmed into the pitch as soon as the full time whistle went before even the players had had chance to leave the field????? no offence mate (seriously, i'm not saying this in an insulting way) but we didn't give a flying fuck about Leicester being relegated when the whistle went let alone being arsed to stand there and goad you about it...we'd just been promoted to the Prem!! within about 5 seconds of the full time whistle i'd completely forgotten Leicester fans and players were even there!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 12:48:40 GMT
When we lost 5.2 at home to Man City in 1998 I didn't blame Man City or indeed Vale (whose win away at Huddersfield condemned both Stoke & Man City to the drop) for relegation. I blamed Coates,Humphries & Moxey for a series of spectacular bad decisions. Surprised that many LCFC fans blame Stoke for relegating them. I was there the day we got relegated and to be honest a large number of stokies seems far more intent in goading us than celebrating....but this is football and you have to take your chances to rub it in whenever possible so personally its not an issue for me. So was I fella and thats bullshit
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Post by 2004 on Sept 10, 2014 13:04:14 GMT
bigmanting you talk bollocks. I didn't even notice the Leicester end emptying/crying at the end of that game. We were to busy celebrating. Don't talk rubbish because you are bitter about how shit your team was then.
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Post by bigmanting on Sept 10, 2014 13:04:35 GMT
I was there the day we got relegated and to be honest a large number of stokies seems far more intent in goading us than celebrating....but this is football and you have to take your chances to rub it in whenever possible so personally its not an issue for me. ???? more interested in goading you than celebrating?????? was that when the Stoke fans were so excited about being promoted that they invaded the pitch too early or the point when the whole crowd swarmed into the pitch as soon as the full time whistle went before even the players had had chance to leave the field????? no offence mate (seriously, i'm not saying this in an insulting way) but we didn't give a flying fuck about Leicester being relegated when the whistle went let alone being arsed to stand there and goad you about it...we'd just been promoted to the Prem!! within about 5 seconds of the full time whistle i'd completely forgotten Leicester fans and players were even there! Well like I said I was there and know what happened. I didn't say all of you...I just remember feeling so devestated at the result one of the few things that cheered me up that day was how keen some of you lot were to goad us....like our relegation was more important to (some of) you than your own promotion. Anyway, thats all in the past and here we are on a level playing field once again.
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Post by bigmanting on Sept 10, 2014 13:08:55 GMT
bigmanting you talk bollocks. I didn't even notice the Leicester end emptying/crying at the end of that game. We were to busy celebrating. Don't talk rubbish because you are bitter about how shit your team was then. Well thats good for you...you cant tell me something didnt happen when it actually happened right in front of my eyes. I dont know you and like you say you didnt notice....but you cannot speak for all your fellow stoke fans surely? Im not bitter...like I said in a previous post I understand its all banter....but You can all say it didnt happen 100 times, but that wont change the fact that it did.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 13:17:28 GMT
???? more interested in goading you than celebrating?????? was that when the Stoke fans were so excited about being promoted that they invaded the pitch too early or the point when the whole crowd swarmed into the pitch as soon as the full time whistle went before even the players had had chance to leave the field????? no offence mate (seriously, i'm not saying this in an insulting way) but we didn't give a flying fuck about Leicester being relegated when the whistle went let alone being arsed to stand there and goad you about it...we'd just been promoted to the Prem!! within about 5 seconds of the full time whistle i'd completely forgotten Leicester fans and players were even there! Well like I said I was there and know what happened. I didn't say all of you...I just remember feeling so devestated at the result one of the few things that cheered me up that day was how keen some of you lot were to goad us....like our relegation was more important to (some of) you than your own promotion. Anyway, thats all in the past and here we are on a level playing field once again. Not for long
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 13:32:54 GMT
to be fair I thought you were being a twat and so labelled you as such! and it's funny you say you aren't here for an argument and you are being friendly because this line, "I particularly like the logic "never heard of anyone in the leicester squad = easy win"?? Ha okkkkaaaayyyy x" was clearly aimed at some on here I can't help comparing the two fox posters, friendly fox and you. Only one of you doesn't come across as a twat to me, and it's not friendly fox... guess who it is Luckily the majority of posters on here are adults and funnily enough you are the only one to call me an offensive name!. In case you hadn't realised this whole thread is about how misguided us leicester fans are...I decided to join for a bit of banter and tried to get my point across by picking up on a couple of the funnier comments. You my friend seem to have taken this personally?? Anyway please don't bother to reply to this I don't think I could take any more of your devastating put downs. Good luck for saturday. X No one else is calling you an offensive name but they're all thinking it trust me Banter, oh please! I challenge you to find someone on this board that thinks you have added to this
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 13:37:16 GMT
bigmanting : Fuck off back to your own meassage board you cheese and onion finger smelling twat :-)
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Post by bigmanting on Sept 10, 2014 13:44:56 GMT
Well like I said I was there and know what happened. I didn't say all of you...I just remember feeling so devestated at the result one of the few things that cheered me up that day was how keen some of you lot were to goad us....like our relegation was more important to (some of) you than your own promotion. Anyway, thats all in the past and here we are on a level playing field once again. Not for long I know some have tipped you for relegation but personally I think you'll stay up??
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Post by bigmanting on Sept 10, 2014 13:46:40 GMT
bigmanting : Fuck off back to your own meassage board you cheese and onion finger smelling twat :-) I promise you mate...most people reading this will cringe reading your posts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 13:50:24 GMT
bigmanting : Fuck off back to your own meassage board you cheese and onion finger smelling twat :-) I promise you mate...most people reading this will cringe reading your posts. Sorry it was a joke but clearly you have no sence of humour However the sentiment is accurate
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Post by bigmanting on Sept 10, 2014 13:52:26 GMT
I promise you mate...most people reading this will cringe reading your posts. Sorry it was a joke but clearly you have no sence of humour However the sentiment is accurate K
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 10, 2014 13:59:56 GMT
Just read a few pages on their forum.. why do they think they're a massive club? also, getting a point against Arsenal and narrowly losing to Chelsea has severely clouded their judgement, it's not like we haven't done that against those teams before is it? (no, we've actually beat them)Never really been arsed about Leicester fans before but would be more than happy to give them a royal shafting on Saturday if it shut them up.
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Post by friendlyfox on Sept 10, 2014 14:12:09 GMT
Just read a few pages on their forum.. why do they think they're a massive club? also, getting a point against Arsenal and narrowly losing to Chelsea has severely clouded their judgement, it's not like we haven't done that against those teams before is it? (no, we've actually beat them)Never really been arsed about Leicester fans before but would be more than happy to give them a royal shafting on Saturday if it shut them up. It's not the results, it's the performance. We played Everton, Chelsea and Arsenal, and gave them all a good run for their money. The results weren't fantastic, but the performances have been very encouraging.
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Post by metalhead on Sept 10, 2014 14:17:21 GMT
Just read a few pages on their forum.. why do they think they're a massive club? also, getting a point against Arsenal and narrowly losing to Chelsea has severely clouded their judgement, it's not like we haven't done that against those teams before is it? (no, we've actually beat them)Never really been arsed about Leicester fans before but would be more than happy to give them a royal shafting on Saturday if it shut them up. It's not the results, it's the performance. We played Everton, Chelsea and Arsenal, and gave them all a good run for their money. The results weren't fantastic, but the performances have been very encouraging. Well it's great to see the use of associative logic haven't you mate? We played these three teams who came above Stoke in table innit, we played like okay innit, so when we play Stoke like, we gonna win like 9 nil... innit? Innit yeah? Go bet your house on it... you've all pretty much got this shit sorted out eh? Premiership title here you come. You're a sure-fire for the win now. Just... don't come asking if you need somewhere to stay after Saturday.
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Post by coates on Sept 10, 2014 14:29:06 GMT
This was a pretty much a nothing game but I hope we smash these fuckers now, Leicester are a newly promoted team and will 've lucky to stay up, plus the fact we didn't relegate you it was your own team.
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Post by coates on Sept 10, 2014 14:29:44 GMT
???? more interested in goading you than celebrating?????? was that when the Stoke fans were so excited about being promoted that they invaded the pitch too early or the point when the whole crowd swarmed into the pitch as soon as the full time whistle went before even the players had had chance to leave the field????? no offence mate (seriously, i'm not saying this in an insulting way) but we didn't give a flying fuck about Leicester being relegated when the whistle went let alone being arsed to stand there and goad you about it...we'd just been promoted to the Prem!! within about 5 seconds of the full time whistle i'd completely forgotten Leicester fans and players were even there! Well like I said I was there and know what happened. I didn't say all of you...I just remember feeling so devestated at the result one of the few things that cheered me up that day was how keen some of you lot were to goad us....like our relegation was more important to (some of) you than your own promotion. Anyway, thats all in the past and here we are on a level playing field once again. You do talk some tripe.
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