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Post by spartanstokie on Jul 22, 2015 15:10:42 GMT
just see on Facebook SLP quoting twitter about a meeting Cartwright, Rebrov and Yarmalenko have had.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 22, 2015 15:11:01 GMT
A couple of folks on here know I have "sauces" and there is absolutely zero, nada, zilch, nought, diddly squat to report on the transfer front at present, I am told.
So Paul, Foster, Feynmann may as well go back to their tactical wanking discussion.........
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 22, 2015 15:13:37 GMT
No because the 'facts' you are using I dispute. You're talking about the 'facts' that Diouf and Walters scored as STRIKERS and then making that fact apply to your argument about their ability as wingers. A lot of the goals that Diouf and Walters scored, was when they weren't even playing on the right wing and you seem to think its relevant to introduce these 'facts' in a discussion about when they were playing there. Yeah and i know that you think we need better than Arnie on the left - we have a difference opinion there, sure. Paul, come on mate...Walters played very few games as a striker last season (hence my 'tongue in cheek' previous post). He scored his hat-trick (1/3 of his goals from last season) from a centre forwards position which I think is what Paul is alluding too. Similarly with Diouf. As an example of what I think Paul is saying, we can take Aston Villa away as exhibit A. Diouf started the game wide right with Walters through the middle. It wasn't working so the two switched positions. 5 minutes later, Diouf had equalised from his position as a central striker.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jul 22, 2015 15:14:01 GMT
Don't you think they 'filled in' due to the piss poor form of Arnie... I know you don't rate Arnie mate but they filled in due to Moses getting injured and Arnie moving to the left, leaving a hole on the right that needed to be covered. On his day Arnie is as good as we have seen, unfortunately they are only slightly more frequent than Kenwynes worldies were... Walters played 32 games, Mama 34, Marko 29 and Moses 19 so there are a fair few occasions when one or the other played on the right when Marko and Moses were fit....
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Post by hughjarse on Jul 22, 2015 15:14:25 GMT
Bringing the thread back to Yarmo for a second. Yarmo has not rejected us despite rumour he has
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 22, 2015 15:15:49 GMT
just see on Facebook SLP quoting twitter about a meeting Cartwright, Rebrov and Yarmalenko have had. Just checking what their favourite pizza toppings are, they made that mistake with Shaqiri I've heard.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 22, 2015 15:17:54 GMT
just see on Facebook SLP quoting twitter about a meeting Cartwright, Rebrov and Yarmalenko have had. Just checking what their favourite pizza toppings are, they made that mistake with Shaqiri I've heard. Yep the bacon bits fucked that deal
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 22, 2015 15:17:42 GMT
just see on Facebook SLP quoting twitter about a meeting Cartwright, Rebrov and Yarmalenko have had. Then and hour later I confirmed that this meeting is all in the imagination of the twitter account. And no member of Stoke recruitment team has been in the Ukraine for over a week
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Post by spartanstokie on Jul 22, 2015 15:18:30 GMT
just see on Facebook SLP quoting twitter about a meeting Cartwright, Rebrov and Yarmalenko have had. Then and hour later I confirmed that this meeting is all in the imagination of the twitter account. And no member of Stoke recruitment team has been in the Ukraine for over a week there you go then
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2015 15:19:13 GMT
Unfortunately I've got to go out now - apologies.
So just in case anybody is any doubt - in my humble opinion, the most urgent area in the team that needs attention is the right wing and anybody who thinks we'll be fine going into next season with Walters/Odenwingie/Diouf there, is simply, erm ... wrong!
Although I'm happy to agree to disagree of course.
(Winky thing!)
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Post by hughjarse on Jul 22, 2015 15:19:20 GMT
Why would you want to bring the thread back to yarmo ??
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 22, 2015 15:21:07 GMT
Paul, come on mate...Walters played very few games as a striker last season (hence my 'tongue in cheek' previous post). He scored his hat-trick (1/3 of his goals from last season) from a centre forwards position which I think is what Paul is alluding too. Similarly with Diouf. As an example of what I think Paul is saying, we can take Aston Villa away as exhibit A. Diouf started the game wide right with Walters through the middle. It wasn't working so the two switched positions. 5 minutes later, Diouf had equalised from his position as a central striker. So can we agree then that Walters played MOSTLY out wide last season where he scored most of his goals, although he scored SOME of them whilst playing as a striker? I think would be fair comment. The whole basis of this discussion (for some) is the well worn opinion that Walters contributes nothing in terms of a forward threat when played out wide, which has always been (and remains) bullshit.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2015 15:21:09 GMT
Paul, come on mate...Walters played very few games as a striker last season (hence my 'tongue in cheek' previous post). He scored his hat-trick (1/3 of his goals from last season) from a centre forwards position which I think is what Paul is alluding too. Similarly with Diouf. As an example of what I think Paul is saying, we can take Aston Villa away as exhibit A. Diouf started the game wide right with Walters through the middle. It wasn't working so the two switched positions. 5 minutes later, Diouf had equalised from his position as a central striker. Finally ....
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Post by feynmann2 on Jul 22, 2015 15:22:59 GMT
Paul, come on mate...Walters played very few games as a striker last season (hence my 'tongue in cheek' previous post). He scored his hat-trick (1/3 of his goals from last season) from a centre forwards position which I think is what Paul is alluding too. Similarly with Diouf. As an example of what I think Paul is saying, we can take Aston Villa away as exhibit A. Diouf started the game wide right with Walters through the middle. It wasn't working so the two switched positions. 5 minutes later, Diouf had equalised from his position as a central striker. So playing Walters and Diouf together, one starting on the right allows us to rotate which they can't do with Arnie... Sounds like another reason to upgrade the left side first (Can't do smileys from my phone)
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 22, 2015 15:23:12 GMT
Is there any clarification on whether Kiev have actually accepted a bid?
Or are we completely in the dark re:
a.)what bid they'd accept? b.) whether the owner's ego would accept selling him to Stoke? c.) the existence of any release clause? d.) if the player has any interest at all?
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Jul 22, 2015 15:24:28 GMT
Alan Nixon @reluctantnickoHeard anything re: #scfc Nicko? I've been told that Yarmo deal is edging closer. Could even be next week!Get a horrible feeling u are being used. Again.Finding it hard to close deals. Not only ones.domestic target matty phillips anyone ?????? I think Stoke smell a rat and are happy for Yarmo interest to be out there. Because they're working on someone elseAny idea who? A little birdie mentioned Carillo and Afellay. Anything?Afellay was alive before. Think its domestic target. matty phillips anyone ?????? I would be very happy if we sign Phillips.
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Jul 22, 2015 15:31:14 GMT
What a very strange discussion. Am I understanding that we're saying Walters PLAYS on the wing but scores his goals in an STRIKER'S position?????? Isn't that exactly why we play wingers on their 'wrong' side so that they can come inside and be a threat on goal? Did Arnie and Moses score their goals from out wide or whilst in a striking position? Pardon me whilst I have a little lie down. Walters had 6 games in Strikers position and manage to score 3 goals and had 2 assists. Link
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 22, 2015 15:33:26 GMT
Is there any clarification on whether Kiev have actually accepted a bid? Or are we completely in the dark re: a.)what bid they'd accept? b.) whether the owner's ego would accept selling him to Stoke? c.) the existence of any release clause? d.) if the player has any interest at all? Kiev have not accepted a bid. Kiev owner probably won't accept a bid, But he does have a release clause so does not matter what Kiev owner wants. The player has not rejected Stoke so that would say he has an interest as we are a good move for him to get another move to a champions league side. He is still seen as a risk and none bar Stoke ATM are willing to take it
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 22, 2015 15:33:59 GMT
Einstein Nicko
- a feeling stoke are being used again
- finding it difficult to close deals
The savvy of us told you that in May next thing is a panic by so many so right on here out first deal in June should have been Lennon / Townsend and Mosss instead of this charade
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 22, 2015 15:35:03 GMT
Is there any clarification on whether Kiev have actually accepted a bid? Or are we completely in the dark re: a.)what bid they'd accept? b.) whether the owner's ego would accept selling him to Stoke? c.) the existence of any release clause? d.) if the player has any interest at all? Kiev have not accepted a bid. Kiev owner probably won't accept a bid, But he does have a release clause so does not matter what Kiev owner wants. The player has not rejected Stoke so that would say he has an interest as we are a good move for him to get another move to a champions league side. He is still seen as a risk and none bar Stoke ATM are willing to take it So have we actually made a bid yet?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 22, 2015 15:36:27 GMT
Is there any clarification on whether Kiev have actually accepted a bid? Or are we completely in the dark re: a.)what bid they'd accept? b.) whether the owner's ego would accept selling him to Stoke? c.) the existence of any release clause? d.) if the player has any interest at all? Kiev have not accepted a bid. Kiev owner probably won't accept a bid, But he does have a release clause so does not matter what Kiev owner wants. The player has not rejected Stoke so that would say he has an interest as we are a good move for him to get another move to a champions league side. He is still seen as a risk and none bar Stoke ATM are willing to take it I'd move on as I don't think he is worth the release figure and it doesn't appear they will let him go for less.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 22, 2015 15:37:55 GMT
What a very strange discussion. Am I understanding that we're saying Walters PLAYS on the wing but scores his goals in an STRIKER'S position?????? Isn't that exactly why we play wingers on their 'wrong' side so that they can come inside and be a threat on goal? Did Arnie and Moses score their goals from out wide or whilst in a striking position? Pardon me whilst I have a little lie down. Walters had 6 games in Strikers position and manage to score 3 goals and had 2 assists. LinkCheers for that. So he scored all but three of his goals (all scored in ONE game) whilst playing out wide. That's what I thought.
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 22, 2015 15:40:01 GMT
Kiev have not accepted a bid. Kiev owner probably won't accept a bid, But he does have a release clause so does not matter what Kiev owner wants. The player has not rejected Stoke so that would say he has an interest as we are a good move for him to get another move to a champions league side. He is still seen as a risk and none bar Stoke ATM are willing to take it I'd move on as I don't think he is worth the release figure and it doesn't appear they will let him go for less. Release figure is not much more that the supposed bid we have put in. It's defo not the €30mill been quoted around
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 22, 2015 15:41:56 GMT
I'd move on as I don't think he is worth the release figure and it doesn't appear they will let him go for less. Release figure is not more that the supposed bid we have put in. It's defo not the €30mill been quoted around So we haven't put any bid in else they'd have to accept it?
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 22, 2015 15:48:25 GMT
Release figure is not more that the supposed bid we have put in. It's defo not the €30mill been quoted around So we haven't put any bid in else they'd have to accept it? Sorry missed the word Much, I will edit it lol
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 22, 2015 15:52:44 GMT
So we haven't put any bid in else they'd have to accept it? Sorry missed the word Much, I will edit it lol Fair enough!
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Post by slother on Jul 22, 2015 16:24:20 GMT
I'd move on as I don't think he is worth the release figure and it doesn't appear they will let him go for less. Release figure is not much more that the supposed bid we have put in. It's defo not the €30mill been quoted around If you know the release fee why aren't you prepared to disclose it? Do you know the release fee?
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 22, 2015 16:33:03 GMT
Release figure is not much more that the supposed bid we have put in. It's defo not the €30mill been quoted around If you know the release fee why aren't you prepared to disclose it? Do you know the release fee? I don't know figure, just told it's a lot less than the €30 mill quoted and we have supposed to have bid €20 so somewhere in between that but a lot sound like more than a couple of million
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 22, 2015 16:37:41 GMT
If you know the release fee why aren't you prepared to disclose it? Do you know the release fee? I don't know figure, just told it's a lot less than the €30 mill quoted and we have supposed to have bid €20 so somewhere in between that but a lot sound like more than a couple of million Surely we should just bid the release clause fee, if it is only a couple of million more?
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Post by agingerstokie on Jul 22, 2015 16:42:44 GMT
I don't know figure, just told it's a lot less than the €30 mill quoted and we have supposed to have bid €20 so somewhere in between that but a lot sound like more than a couple of million Surely we should just bid the release clause fee, if it is only a couple of million more? Maybe Scholes has adopted Tesco's motto "every little helps" Sent from my SD4930UR using proboards
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