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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jul 22, 2015 9:36:55 GMT
Or And amother when will we get the message let's be clear we are not even gettting close the CEO's next level players don't even Even get on a plane.. Something remains fundamentally wrong in our approach and positioning , the squad remains weaker , the transfer find double digit millionsin in profit and public rejections almost keeping pace with the fund surplus Lennon , soares , Yarmo, , Moses , Kono , shaq . Our spine either injured or sold . Before the clappers start thats not negative, the players the numbes and the departures the injuries just reported as fact by local and national media. supplememted with a long held doubt over our commercial capability Can I just understand 1 thing Benjamin. When this dodgy Ukrainian Twitter account announces Stoke are close to signing Yarmolenko, you don't believe a word of it. When the same Twitter account claims the player has rejected us, you take it as gospel. Why do you still post here? You are obviously NOT a Stoke fan and you contribute absolutely fuck all to any conversation, apart from a load of negative, mindless drivel, 95% of which no fucker here can understand a word of. Personally, I believe it is up to each individual to decide if the want to post on here. Even supporters of other clubs post on here! Though I often disagree with 'benjaminbiscuit' you can't argue with the fact that currently we are weaker than last season. Having said that, Bojan and Moses were pulled out of the rabbit's hat at the last minute last year so I remain cautiously optimistic!
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 22, 2015 9:38:44 GMT
Can I just understand 1 thing Benjamin. When this dodgy Ukrainian Twitter account announces Stoke are close to signing Yarmolenko, you don't believe a word of it. When the same Twitter account claims the player has rejected us, you take it as gospel. Why do you still post here? You are obviously NOT a Stoke fan and you contribute absolutely fuck all to any conversation, apart from a load of negative, mindless drivel, 95% of which no fucker here can understand a word of. Personally, I believe it is up to each individual to decide if the want to post on here. Even supporters of other clubs post on here! Though I often disagree with 'benjaminbiscuit' you can't argue with the fact that currently we are weaker than last season. Having said that, Bojan and Moses were pulled out of the rabbit's hat at the last minute last year so I remain cautiously optimistic! You would be right if that was ALL BB was actually saying. Almost all of his posts are knocking certain staff within the club purely on speculation and his presumptions. As I said, mindless and negative drivel.
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Post by Jack Jarvis Esquire on Jul 22, 2015 9:49:22 GMT
If this true we have been rejected more times than the elephant man at a speed dating night.I like that Stoke are going for the marquee signing though ,its clear from the bids we have put in for players that the club want a "Big" signing as a statement of intent.Its frustrating to be turned down but great to be fishing in the big pond,just hope we land one soon.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 22, 2015 9:50:59 GMT
Or And amother when will we get the message let's be clear we are not even gettting close the CEO's next level players don't even Even get on a plane.. Something remains fundamentally wrong in our approach and positioning , the squad remains weaker , the transfer find double digit millionsin in profit and public rejections almost keeping pace with the fund surplus Lennon , soares , Yarmo, , Moses , Kono , shaq . Our spine either injured or sold . Before the clappers start thats not negative, the players the numbes and the departures the injuries just reported as fact by local and national media. supplememted with a long held doubt over our commercial capability I bet even your day carer gets fed up with your 'jovial outbursts' Give it a rest will you - we all know your standpoint
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Post by stokemark on Jul 22, 2015 9:52:23 GMT
Can I just understand 1 thing Benjamin. When this dodgy Ukrainian Twitter account announces Stoke are close to signing Yarmolenko, you don't believe a word of it. When the same Twitter account claims the player has rejected us, you take it as gospel. Why do you still post here? You are obviously NOT a Stoke fan and you contribute absolutely fuck all to any conversation, apart from a load of negative, mindless drivel, 95% of which no fucker here can understand a word of. Personally, I believe it is up to each individual to decide if the want to post on here. Even supporters of other clubs post on here! Though I often disagree with 'benjaminbiscuit' you can't argue with the fact that currently we are weaker than last season. Having said that, Bojan and Moses were pulled out of the rabbit's hat at the last minute last year so I remain cautiously optimistic! You are spot on Benj has discredited himself with some of his doom mongering in the past (relegation predictions annually !) but thats not to say there isnt a strong argument that we are currently looking at a big problem. The first 11 IS weaker (there is no positive spin on that - we have lost 2 key players and are depending on unproven youngsters to step up to the mark in those positions). The key question is will we invest the money in the quality we clearly still lack ? We have banked £15m and spent around half of is so assuming that Hughes was promised (a very modest) £10m before the transfers of Nzonzi and Begovic we should be looking at a player or two still. If not and we go with what we have got I will be bitterly disappointed as we will not have progressed whilst other clearly are making sure they get their share of the filthy lucre from Sky. It will be the clubs acid test and despite all the hot air re: Yamalenko, Shaquiri and Konoplyanka it cannot be argued that Benjy's point re: completing any such deals is as valid as any optimists potentially miplaced confidence in the club to deliver such a signing(s)
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 22, 2015 10:00:44 GMT
I'm surprised that non of the doom mungers have blamed the manger for going for "stupid" targets and are going all out to blame Scholes, I seem to remember that wasn't the case 3/4 years ago
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 10:11:40 GMT
How long is the window still open for?. You would think it was closing tonight from some of the posts on here.
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 22, 2015 10:14:10 GMT
Good though Begovitch is he had an awful season last year and we are not weaker in that department. Let's see what happens in the rest of the window before saying the first 11 is weaker than last season.
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Post by bolly_premprem on Jul 22, 2015 10:14:37 GMT
we have had lots of these massive threads "player X" but over the years, has any player in these threads every joined.
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Post by Onneravineet on Jul 22, 2015 10:18:35 GMT
If we have been rejected then at least it was by those that weren't ready to just move for a BIG paycheque. Silver linings and all that...
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 22, 2015 10:18:27 GMT
Good though Begovitch is he had an awful season last year and we are not weaker in that department. Let's see what happens in the rest of the window before saying the first 11 is weaker than last season. I don't think 'awful' is quite an accurate description. It was average, by his standards.
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 22, 2015 10:23:40 GMT
Can't think of many keepers who were worse in the premier. The 2 seasons before he was world class apart from his distribution which has always been average.
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 22, 2015 10:26:06 GMT
we have had lots of these massive threads "player X" but over the years, has any player in these threads every joined. Bojan?
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 22, 2015 10:27:29 GMT
we have had lots of these massive threads "player X" but over the years, has any player in these threads every joined. Bojan? We chased Diouf for a year so that thread must have been pretty big
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 22, 2015 10:39:40 GMT
we have had lots of these massive threads "player X" but over the years, has any player in these threads every joined. Bojan? Sorry, beaten to it above. But it is true. As is Diouf - who we pursued for a year before signing him in the third window.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 22, 2015 10:40:16 GMT
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko Heard anything re: #scfc Nicko? I've been told that Yarmo deal is edging closer. Could even be next week! Get a horrible feeling u are being used. Again. Finding it hard to close deals. Not only ones. I think Stoke smell a rat and are happy for Yarmo interest to be out there. Because they're working on someone else Any idea who? A little birdie mentioned Carillo and Afellay. Anything? Afellay was alive before. Think its domestic target.
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Post by philb on Jul 22, 2015 10:40:35 GMT
Whilst I agree we are marginally worse off (as it stands) with our starting 11 position wise we have improved our forward line options and brought in younger players for the future in other positions (which people on here have been banging on about for the last couple of seasons) So I don't see where all this knicker wetting and we're doomed scenario (from a few) is coming from, especially with over a month until the window closes.
Calm down and trust in Hughes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 10:41:54 GMT
Another waste of time transfer saga
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 22, 2015 10:45:15 GMT
Can't think of many keepers who were worse in the premier. The 2 seasons before he was world class apart from his distribution which has always been average. "World Class"? Hmm, again, probably not an accurate description. Whilst he was very good for Stoke for a few years and was 1 of the better keeprs in our league, if he was really world class, he would have secured a lucrative move away from the club and not be warming Chelsea's bench, hoping for a game against Yeovil and Stevenage in the League Cup rounds 2 and 3.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 22, 2015 10:46:16 GMT
Another waste of time transfer saga It might be a waste of our time as posters on this board. But how is it a waste of time for the management team? They won't be spending all their time flying to and from Ukraine, Milan and Switzerland - most of those countries have access to phone, fax and email, I should hope! Face to face meetings tend to happen just once or twice during the process and, for many failed bids, not at all.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 22, 2015 10:46:45 GMT
Alan Nixon @reluctantnickoHeard anything re: #scfc Nicko? I've been told that Yarmo deal is edging closer. Could even be next week!Get a horrible feeling u are being used. Again.Finding it hard to close deals. Not only ones.I think Stoke smell a rat and are happy for Yarmo interest to be out there. Because they're working on someone elseAny idea who? A little birdie mentioned Carillo and Afellay. Anything?Afellay was alive before. Think its domestic target. Well if it is domestic and assuming it aint Moses, all roads start to point to Mr Levy
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 22, 2015 10:47:14 GMT
Alan Nixon @reluctantnickoHeard anything re: #scfc Nicko? I've been told that Yarmo deal is edging closer. Could even be next week!Get a horrible feeling u are being used. Again.Finding it hard to close deals. Not only ones.I think Stoke smell a rat and are happy for Yarmo interest to be out there. Because they're working on someone elseAny idea who? A little birdie mentioned Carillo and Afellay. Anything?Afellay was alive before. Think its domestic target. Who is there domestically that would be a 'huge' signing? Surely not Townsend? Although Townsend is a 'Yarmolenko-like' player. ie, left footer on the right. Maybe that was what Hughes was referring to
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 22, 2015 10:52:02 GMT
Surely not Cuadrado or Salah?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 22, 2015 10:53:51 GMT
Alan Nixon @reluctantnickoHeard anything re: #scfc Nicko? I've been told that Yarmo deal is edging closer. Could even be next week!Get a horrible feeling u are being used. Again.Finding it hard to close deals. Not only ones.I think Stoke smell a rat and are happy for Yarmo interest to be out there. Because they're working on someone elseAny idea who? A little birdie mentioned Carillo and Afellay. Anything?Afellay was alive before. Think its domestic target. Who is there domestically that would be a 'huge' signing? Surely not Townsend? Although Townsend is a 'Yarmolenko-like' player. ie, left footer on the right. Maybe that was what Hughes was referring to Can't think of any. Maybe we're off 'huge' and into 'realistic'? Beyond Moses, Townsend and Lennon, it's a struggle to find names and you'd probably be looking at around £10m for any of that lot - even Lennon! For that reason, got to think we're still looking abroad
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 22, 2015 10:56:36 GMT
Has Salah not left Chelsea yet?! don't think he'd come here but would be someone we'd be obviously interested in. I'm assuming it's Townsend and I'd be more than happy if we got him.
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Post by spartanstokie on Jul 22, 2015 10:59:52 GMT
Personally, I believe it is up to each individual to decide if the want to post on here. Even supporters of other clubs post on here! Though I often disagree with 'benjaminbiscuit' you can't argue with the fact that currently we are weaker than last season. Having said that, Bojan and Moses were pulled out of the rabbit's hat at the last minute last year so I remain cautiously optimistic! You would be right if that was ALL BB was actually saying. Almost all of his posts are knocking certain staff within the club purely on speculation and his presumptions. As I said, mindless and negative drivel. got to agree with Milan i think he is on a continuous fishing trip waiting for people to bite PEOPLE SHOULD IGNORE HIM AND BLANK TOTALLY WE KNOW ITS NEGATIVE AND POINTLESS SO DONT BITE
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 22, 2015 11:00:10 GMT
Has Salah not left Chelsea yet?! don't think he'd come here but would be someone we'd be obviously interested in. I'm assuming it's Townsend and I'd be more than happy if we got him. Nope he hasn't. Think he's off to Italy though. www.football-italia.net/69522/salah-doesnt-want-napoli
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 22, 2015 11:01:21 GMT
Personally, I believe it is up to each individual to decide if the want to post on here. Even supporters of other clubs post on here! Though I often disagree with 'benjaminbiscuit' you can't argue with the fact that currently we are weaker than last season. Having said that, Bojan and Moses were pulled out of the rabbit's hat at the last minute last year so I remain cautiously optimistic! You are spot on Benj has discredited himself with some of his doom mongering in the past (relegation predictions annually !) but thats not to say there isnt a strong argument that we are currently looking at a big problem. The first 11 IS weaker (there is no positive spin on that - we have lost 2 key players and are depending on unproven youngsters to step up to the mark in those positions). The key question is will we invest the money in the quality we clearly still lack ? We have banked £15m and spent around half of is so assuming that Hughes was promised (a very modest) £10m before the transfers of Nzonzi and Begovic we should be looking at a player or two still. If not and we go with what we have got I will be bitterly disappointed as we will not have progressed whilst other clearly are making sure they get their share of the filthy lucre from Sky. It will be the clubs acid test and despite all the hot air re: Yamalenko, Shaquiri and Konoplyanka it cannot be argued that Benjy's point re: completing any such deals is as valid as any optimists potentially miplaced confidence in the club to deliver such a signing(s) I disagree our 1st XI is weaker compared to the side we out out last year. No evidence Butland is weaker than Bego and then Johnson Shawcross Muniesa Pieters is better than a 4 with Cameron/Bardsley and Wilson in. Midfield with van Ginkel and Bojan at least equal to one with N'Zonzi and Adam/Ireland which was more common last year. Front three with Joselu and Diouf now at least as good and given relatively limited appearances of Moses, probably stronger. And we have more depth as cover in attack and defence. Our second team would be comfortably lower mid table. Add a top attacker and let the front 4 play and Van Ginkela bs Whelan hold and we will be flying
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 22, 2015 11:02:21 GMT
Has Salah not left Chelsea yet?! don't think he'd come here but would be someone we'd be obviously interested in. I'm assuming it's Townsend and I'd be more than happy if we got him. Nope he hasn't. Think he's off to Italy though. www.football-italia.net/69522/salah-doesnt-want-napoliLast time I heard it was a done deal with Inter but obviously that's fallen through.
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Post by stokemark on Jul 22, 2015 11:02:48 GMT
Good though Begovitch is he had an awful season last year and we are not weaker in that department. Let's see what happens in the rest of the window before saying the first 11 is weaker than last season. Sorry but awful ? Thats simply not true Fact is last season we had Bego, Butland and Sorro This season Butland, Given and Haugaard How that can possibly not be weaker I dont know
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