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Post by IvKorzh on Jul 19, 2015 23:12:43 GMT
Київ in Ukrainian Kyiv everywhere else Very good. Then, I'd like that all of you stop saying 'Moscow'. The Russian name is 'Moskva'. 'Sankt-Peterburg' not 'Saint Petersburg', etc. Same with Kiev. Okay, in Ukrainian 'Kyiv', but in Russian (my native language) there's Kiev and only Kiev. I respect Ukraine and the Ukrainian language (the best language for singing songs in the world IMO), but I live in Russia and I'd like to use my own language. Thanks.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 19, 2015 23:17:40 GMT
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Post by usapotter on Jul 19, 2015 23:40:07 GMT
So what happened today? Anything worth a mention?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 0:00:53 GMT
Andriy Yarmolenko (centre): Ukraine winger linked with StokeAndriy Yarmolenko (centre): Ukraine winger linked with Stoke Dynamo Kiev manager Sergei Rebrov insists he has heard nothing official about Stoke's alleged offer for Ukraine winger Andriy Yarmolenko.
It was reported in Ukraine last week that Stoke had made a 20million euros bid for Yarmolenko having failed with moves for his international team-mate Yevhen Konoplyanka and Inter Milan's Xherdan Shaqiri.
It was claimed that Stoke had already met with Dynamo officials to discuss the terms of the transfer, but Rebrov claims to know nothing of Stoke's interest.
"I know nothing about this proposal, but I told him that if he goes, it should be to a team that is fighting for the Champions League," Rebrov said on Sunday.
Stoke boss Mark Hughes neither confirmed nor denied Konoplyanka was a target when asked on Saturday, although he did admit he was the quality of player the club hopes to make their final signing of the summer transfer window.
""We've missed out on a couple of players," Hughes said. "We couldn't get them over the line.
"We're still hopeful we can get a player of top, top quality. If we can do that then we will probably be done for the window.
"Would that be Yarmolenko? A player of his type, yes.
"He's the level of player we hope to bring in if we can.
"There's a lot of speculation. We've had conversations with a lot of people that have connections with good players and those conversations have taken place probably since the New Year."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 0:55:54 GMT
So we have signed Haugaard, Joselu and Moha a total of what 5 million with a couple of free transfers
Sale of Beggo and Nzonzi 15 million
Not spent a lot AGAIN have we.
Sure someone will correct my maths and tell me we have been linked with another NO WAY I'M COMING player.
But I'm underwhelmed as usual.
We look a solid mid table team , but without a STAR player we are missing a spark needed to even stay where we are.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 20, 2015 1:16:11 GMT
So we have signed Haugaard, Joselu and Moha a total of what 5 million with a couple of free transfers Sale of Beggo and Nzonzi 15 million Not spent a lot AGAIN have we. Sure someone will correct my maths and tell me we have been linked with another NO WAY I'M COMING player. But I'm underwhelmed as usual. We look a solid mid table team , but without a STAR player we are missing a spark needed to even stay where we are. AGAIN, why does it matter what we've spent? *also you forgot Wolly (3.5).
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Post by stokiemarc on Jul 20, 2015 1:26:26 GMT
So we have signed Haugaard, Joselu and Moha a total of what 5 million with a couple of free transfers Sale of Beggo and Nzonzi 15 million Not spent a lot AGAIN have we. Sure someone will correct my maths and tell me we have been linked with another NO WAY I'M COMING player. But I'm underwhelmed as usual. We look a solid mid table team , but without a STAR player we are missing a spark needed to even stay where we are. Shame Bojan isn't a star player....oh wait..
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 20, 2015 2:46:45 GMT
So we have signed Haugaard, Joselu and Moha a total of what 5 million with a couple of free transfers Sale of Beggo and Nzonzi 15 million Not spent a lot AGAIN have we. Sure someone will correct my maths and tell me we have been linked with another NO WAY I'M COMING player. But I'm underwhelmed as usual. We look a solid mid table team , but without a STAR player we are missing a spark needed to even stay where we are. Shame Bojan isn't a star player....oh wait.. Shocking to think we are so poor Arnie diouf and Adam are also appalling and couldn't do anything to win a match on their own.....hang on
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Post by werrington on Jul 20, 2015 5:34:46 GMT
So we have signed Haugaard, Joselu and Moha a total of what 5 million with a couple of free transfers Sale of Beggo and Nzonzi 15 million Not spent a lot AGAIN have we. Sure someone will correct my maths and tell me we have been linked with another NO WAY I'M COMING player. But I'm underwhelmed as usual. We look a solid mid table team , but without a STAR player we are missing a spark needed to even stay where we are. Perhaps you should try one of the Manchester clubs they'd fulfil your dreams of signing every STAR player they are linked with ? Or perhaps you'd like us to go down the Portsmouth/Leeds route and spend BIG just for the sheer hell of it ? Seriously riv there's so much wrong that post
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 5:49:19 GMT
I think riv is just saying we have lost Two big star players in beggo and nzonz and replaced with what can only be described as youngsters with future potential
I kind of agree with him so far but, I'm hoping / assuming that we will spend bigger by the end of the window.
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Post by Jimm on Jul 20, 2015 6:00:30 GMT
FutbolUkraine @futbolukraine 20m20 minutes ago Yarmolenko will wait for an official offer by a Champions league club until transfer window closes. For now only CL club interested is #PSG
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 6:20:44 GMT
Looks like this is going to go the same way as Kono. We should move on to more acheivable targets and get them signed. I know that we are trying for a real star name signing but at this stage of our development, with our "reputation", and with no European football on offer, I think these signings are currently unrealistic. Hopefully we can improve over this season and just maybe qualify for the EL which could/should make it easier to sign this level of player. Seems money isn't everything as far as our targets are concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 6:21:05 GMT
FutbolUkraine @futbolukraine 20m20 minutes ago Yarmolenko will wait for an official offer by a Champions league club until transfer window closes. For now only CL club interested is #PSG Which is NO .
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Post by Northy on Jul 20, 2015 6:23:38 GMT
Better get my boots polished, the pizza boys will be down to signing at my level soon
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 20, 2015 6:28:34 GMT
So we have signed Haugaard, Joselu and Moha a total of what 5 million with a couple of free transfers Sale of Beggo and Nzonzi 15 million Not spent a lot AGAIN have we. Sure someone will correct my maths and tell me we have been linked with another NO WAY I'M COMING player. But I'm underwhelmed as usual. We look a solid mid table team , but without a STAR player we are missing a spark needed to even stay where we are. this
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 20, 2015 6:28:50 GMT
How many more before we look at the process and the people responsible for executing it before we reaiss something
Target selection , story told , commercials offer , media management , negotiating stance , one or more of Them is materially undermining our efforts
We are of curse not the only team to miss targets but we are the only one so publically rejected so often after showing our knickers in public .
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 20, 2015 6:35:59 GMT
Shame Bojan isn't a star player....oh wait.. Shocking to think we are so poor Arnie diouf and Adam are also appalling and couldn't do anything to win a match on their own.....hang on Shocking to think that we are so good, attracting all the players that we want to sign... Yarmolenko, Konoplyanka, shaqiri- I'm not sure why we've signed so many Wingers! I thought 2 at the most but we obviously couldn't decide between the 3 of them... No team around us is keeping up with our class transfers... Oh wait...
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Post by Jeremy Corbyn on Jul 20, 2015 6:35:46 GMT
FutbolUkraine @futbolukraine 20m20 minutes ago Yarmolenko will wait for an official offer by a Champions league club until transfer window closes. For now only CL club interested is #PSG The question is what do they say to encourage our interest? I'm sure we wouldn't be working on a deal if they'd said that from the start.
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Post by pyrus on Jul 20, 2015 6:37:51 GMT
So we have signed Haugaard, Joselu and Moha a total of what 5 million with a couple of free transfers Sale of Beggo and Nzonzi 15 million Not spent a lot AGAIN have we. Sure someone will correct my maths and tell me we have been linked with another NO WAY I'M COMING player. But I'm underwhelmed as usual. We look a solid mid table team , but without a STAR player we are missing a spark needed to even stay where we are. This comes across as a bit critical. I don't think it is a Mike Ashley situation where the owner is hogging the transfer income to repay the debts. It seems clear to me that we are trying very hard to buy next level players and we are willing to pay what is necessary. True, we are not converting our interest, but I agree with Huges/the club - you need this type of talent to break out of the middle of the mid table bunch of clubs. The way I see it, is that we have no option but to try. We will never move beyond our current level unless we crack this problem, if not this year, then next.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 20, 2015 6:40:11 GMT
It's anchor time.....
In all seriousness I think our 'top draw' signing will come towards the end of August, possibly even deadline day.
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Post by michelle1863 on Jul 20, 2015 6:43:13 GMT
Shouldn't we just wait and see what develops today? I take all these player links with a pinch of salt tbh' the only one I was gutted about was cedric Soares, as I felt he could've improved us, but these bigger name stars are always going to be harder to attract. I have faith in our club, but getting this 'Star' player may not happen this season, we have to be patient. (On an aside though I see southampton signed Jordy Clasie...they seem to have done some sound business again, but let's see how it pans out next season....)
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Post by 4kingal on Jul 20, 2015 6:44:02 GMT
How many more before we look at the process and the people responsible for executing it before we reaiss something Target selection , story told , commercials offer , media management , negotiating stance , one or more of Them is materially undermining our efforts We are of curse not the only team to miss targets but we are the only one so publically rejected so often after showing our knickers in public . Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?!
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Post by Jeremy Corbyn on Jul 20, 2015 6:45:48 GMT
I don't think it helps with the press and agents constantly putting us down and making us look small. If our targets read what's being said it can only be a negative influence on there decision. They don't seem to aim there poison at Swansea, West Ham or Newcastle none of whom are better than us.
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Post by werrington on Jul 20, 2015 6:46:02 GMT
Shouldn't we just wait and see what develops today? I take all these player links with a pinch of salt tbh' the only one I was gutted about was cedric Soares, as I felt he could've improved us, but these bigger name stars are always going to be harder to attract. I have faith in our club, but getting this 'Star' player may not happen this season, we have to be patient. (On an aside though I see southampton signed Jordy Clasie...they seem to have done some sound business again, but let's see how it pans out next season....) The star player has got to happen Michelle and happen soon Otherwise there'll be suicides galore on here as they won't be able to cope WTF have we become
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Post by Jeremy Corbyn on Jul 20, 2015 6:47:28 GMT
Shouldn't we just wait and see what develops today? I take all these player links with a pinch of salt tbh' the only one I was gutted about was cedric Soares, as I felt he could've improved us, but these bigger name stars are always going to be harder to attract. I have faith in our club, but getting this 'Star' player may not happen this season, we have to be patient. (On an aside though I see southampton signed Jordy Clasie...they seem to have done some sound business again, but let's see how it pans out next season....) Who will Classie replace in there first 11 Tavic or whatever his name is.
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Post by apb1979 on Jul 20, 2015 6:48:59 GMT
FutbolUkraine @futbolukraine 20m20 minutes ago Yarmolenko will wait for an official offer by a Champions league club until transfer window closes. For now only CL club interested is #PSG Why hasn't he quoted the original source? This is his opinion based on Rebrov's comments. He was like this all the way through the Kono transfer saga
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Post by Jeremy Corbyn on Jul 20, 2015 6:51:28 GMT
FutbolUkraine @futbolukraine 20m20 minutes ago Yarmolenko will wait for an official offer by a Champions league club until transfer window closes. For now only CL club interested is #PSG Why hasn't he quoted the original source? This is his opinion based on Rebrov's comments. He was like this all the way through the Kono transfer saga There's defo an agenda against us. How many of these guys judge on the "Pulis'" reputation and not our current playing style.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 20, 2015 6:52:27 GMT
FutbolUkraine @futbolukraine 20m20 minutes ago Yarmolenko will wait for an official offer by a Champions league club until transfer window closes. For now only CL club interested is #PSG Why hasn't he quoted the original source? This is his opinion based on Rebrov's comments. He was like this all the way through the Kono transfer saga True - this isn't being reported anywhere. When he doesn't quote a source, this guy just makes stuff up based on what he guesses the situation is and tries to pass it off as having substance. He really is hilarious. As you say, he did this time and time again with Kono.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 6:55:19 GMT
Why are people taking notice of that dodgy twitter account. Wait for news from an official source.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 6:55:26 GMT
You have to question our negotiation strategy . You have to ask if the player 'might' be interested first . If he says he wants champions league football , then there is no point , unless we are prepared to double his wages. Three times now we have had the same response . Three times it has been no .
Three times we have made ourselves look stupid . Time to learn from our mistakes .
Simple.
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