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Post by Beertricks Potter on Jul 19, 2015 20:53:44 GMT
Yeah, That's what I'm getting at. clause to say we accept offer of a certain figure (profit on what we pay) from a CL club. Sounds right. And if the player is happy with wages and hopefully in Europe play then he stays. It's not a terrible idea and the club feels strong about our competitive level. As they should. When he tries Oatcakes and Wrights pies, he wunna leave. Be a fat useless fucker, but he wunna leave
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Post by bmstoke on Jul 19, 2015 20:57:07 GMT
Sounds right. And if the player is happy with wages and hopefully in Europe play then he stays. It's not a terrible idea and the club feels strong about our competitive level. As they should. When he tries Oatcakes and Wrights pies, he wunna leave. Be a fat useless fucker, but he wunna leave That explains Palacios then.
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Post by rovingpotter on Jul 19, 2015 21:00:44 GMT
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Post by pyrus on Jul 19, 2015 21:02:25 GMT
Sergei RebrovStoke City offer on Yarmolenko? Stoke City is not team for Andrey. I know nothing about this offer, but I said to him that if to go, to team which fights for the Champions League", - said Rebrov One question Sergei; where are all these Champions League clubs you mention? ...certainly not making a bid on Yarmolenko right now So Andriy, unless you get into one of the major leagues, and show what you can do, then there is no guarantee that a CL side will take the risk on you and if they do, you've got years on the bench ahead of you. Look at it this way Andriy: Begovic and N'Zomzi were on very few radars until we gave them the platform, now both are at CL sides.
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Post by turtlefox on Jul 19, 2015 21:02:41 GMT
Even though we have had season after season of proving people wrong in the premier league, we are a mid table/lower table club at the moment. Full respect to Stoke for trying to get these types of players in but players of this ilk have nothing to prove to a mid table team. They are in their mid twenties and are good enough for the Champions league. Something we can't offer and probably wont be able to offer for years to come. If they sign and nobody else comes in for them during that time, they will be thirty and their time for European football will have passed. Nothing wrong with having ambition but there are just too many bigger clubs than us that will be so much more attractive to them. Fair play for having a go though. You can't knock ambition. I just think ( at the moment) players of this caliber are out of our reach. We are still the dogs home.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 19, 2015 21:07:11 GMT
If he wants to go to a champions league team he has to go elsewhere in Europe because he wouldn't be starting for any of the English ones. An important point re priorities Champions League football at a club where he has a very good chance of making the starting 11 consistently? Premier League club where he has the chance of making the first team consistently Sit on the bench / not playing consistently at a top club in both competitions Stay put Nzonzi chose the first option
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 19, 2015 21:07:32 GMT
Look at these average attendances. You'd be pretty keen to get out, wouldn't you? Must be pretty depressing playing in a league that gets the same level of international coverage as the SPL.
Not sure 3 glamour games in the Champions League makes up for that that, just as it doesn't for Celtic players.
1 Dinamo Kiev 18.898 2 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 11.514 3 Shakhtar Donetsk 8.833 4 Chernomorets Odessa 8.712 5 Metalist Kharkov 7.697 6 Karpaty Lviv 6.214 7 Vorskla Poltava 4.800 8 Volyn Lutsk 4.369 9 Metalurg Zaporizhya 3.267 10 Hoverla Uzhgorod 3.002 11 Metalurh Donetsk 2.877 12 FK Illichivets 2.775 13 Olimpik Donetsk 1.684 14 Zorya Lugansk 1.559
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 19, 2015 21:08:34 GMT
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Post by themistocles on Jul 19, 2015 21:08:39 GMT
Anyone know if yarmo has a 3 re party ownership? We know how that turned outlast time m
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 19, 2015 21:09:53 GMT
Anyone know if yarmo has a 3 re party ownership? We know how that turned outlast time m Yarmo has no 3rd party interest, just him and his decision alone
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 19, 2015 21:10:11 GMT
Anyone know if yarmo has a 3 re party ownership? We know how that turned outlast time m No 3rd party on Yarmolenko
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Post by mrpickles on Jul 19, 2015 21:27:06 GMT
I'd love to know exactly what he was asked.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 19, 2015 21:28:31 GMT
I'd love to know exactly what he was asked. Was about to post EXACTLY the same thing - context is everything here.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 19, 2015 21:31:15 GMT
Offer him a lifetimes supply of beetroot, that'll sway it for us.
Seriously, you have to make him an offer he can't refuse. Bonkers wages/signing on fee is the only way we'll get these players.
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Post by turtlefox on Jul 19, 2015 21:49:25 GMT
Silly mistake if Stoke do. Financial suicide. The beetroot would sway me though. Bacon and beetroot sandwiches, can't beet them !!
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Post by march4 on Jul 19, 2015 21:54:46 GMT
What is all this rubbish about the Champions League?
Where are the queue of world class players at Celtic Park?
It all comes down to one thing - money, and nothing else.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 19, 2015 22:02:34 GMT
Negotiations will continue on Monday 20th July.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 19, 2015 22:16:41 GMT
I'd love to know exactly what he was asked. Was about to post EXACTLY the same thing - context is everything here. I can't hear specific reference to 'Stoke City',but my Ukrainian is a bit rusty
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Jul 19, 2015 22:20:47 GMT
He won't sign.
Let's not run another 150+ page thread.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 19, 2015 22:23:39 GMT
Who's the next £15m rated winger on the list? I'll take a stab at Kevin Volland
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 19, 2015 22:23:54 GMT
Look at these average attendances. You'd be pretty keen to get out, wouldn't you? Must be pretty depressing playing in a league that gets the same level of international coverage as the SPL. Not sure 3 glamour games in the Champions League makes up for that that, just as it doesn't for Celtic players. 1 Dinamo Kiev 18.898 2 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 11.514 3 Shakhtar Donetsk 8.833 4 Chernomorets Odessa 8.712 5 Metalist Kharkov 7.697 6 Karpaty Lviv 6.214 7 Vorskla Poltava 4.800 8 Volyn Lutsk 4.369 9 Metalurg Zaporizhya 3.267 10 Hoverla Uzhgorod 3.002 11 Metalurh Donetsk 2.877 12 FK Illichivets 2.775 13 Olimpik Donetsk 1.684 14 Zorya Lugansk 1.559So over half the teams in that league average less than Vale.
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Post by IvKorzh on Jul 19, 2015 22:26:04 GMT
Was about to post EXACTLY the same thing - context is everything here. I can't hear specific reference to 'Stoke City',but my Ukrainian is a bit rusty Yes, really no Stoke's mention in interveiw, but here he speaks Russian, and journo speaks Ukrainian. Typical situation in Ukraine
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Post by IvKorzh on Jul 19, 2015 22:28:36 GMT
Look at these average attendances. You'd be pretty keen to get out, wouldn't you? Must be pretty depressing playing in a league that gets the same level of international coverage as the SPL. Not sure 3 glamour games in the Champions League makes up for that that, just as it doesn't for Celtic players. 1 Dinamo Kiev 18.898 2 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 11.514 3 Shakhtar Donetsk 8.833 4 Chernomorets Odessa 8.712 5 Metalist Kharkov 7.697 6 Karpaty Lviv 6.214 7 Vorskla Poltava 4.800 8 Volyn Lutsk 4.369 9 Metalurg Zaporizhya 3.267 10 Hoverla Uzhgorod 3.002 11 Metalurh Donetsk 2.877 12 FK Illichivets 2.775 13 Olimpik Donetsk 1.684 14 Zorya Lugansk 1.559So over half the teams in that league average less than Vale. Remember, Ukraine is under war right now and most of teams are playing in different towns. For example, Shakhtar is playing in Lviv, not in Donetsk - it's like playing in Southampton, not in Newcastle.
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 19, 2015 22:41:57 GMT
So over half the teams in that league average less than Vale. Remember, Ukraine is under war right now and most of teams are playing in different towns. For example, Shakhtar is playing in Lviv, not in Donetsk - it's like playing in Southampton, not in Newcastle. Ok, fair point!
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 19, 2015 22:47:31 GMT
41 pages to go before this transfer is officially dead
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jul 19, 2015 22:54:03 GMT
Last time I was in Kyiv, I got a ticket for Dynamo vs Poltava for about 80p and was offered a season ticket for the equivalent of about £7.
Crazy. Stadium was half full, but I've also been in the Olympic stadium when it was full (euro 2012) and the atmosphere was electric Shame they don't get the attendances unless it's Kyiv vs Shakhtar!
Oh and I've noticed uefa now class Shakhtar Donetsk as a RUSSIAN qualifier in the Champions League?
What an insult
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Post by IvKorzh on Jul 19, 2015 22:58:18 GMT
Last time I was in Kyiv, I got a ticket for Dynamo vs Poltava for about 80p and was offered a season ticket for the equivalent of about £7. Crazy. Stadium was half full, but I've also been in the Olympic stadium when it was full (euro 2012) and the atmosphere was electric Shame they don't get the attendances unless it's Kyiv vs Shakhtar! Oh and I've noticed uefa now class Shakhtar Donetsk as a RUSSIAN qualifier in the Champions League? What an insult Both Russia and Ukraine have only onw match that'll bring full stadium: CSKA - Spartak Moscow in Russia, Dynamo Kiev - Shakhtar in Ukraine. Yes, it's a shame, but we all hope (in Ukraine and in Russia) that situation will change in near future...
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jul 19, 2015 23:00:40 GMT
You being Russian should know the correct spelling of Ukraines capital city ;-)
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Post by IvKorzh on Jul 19, 2015 23:03:53 GMT
You being Russian should know the correct spelling of Ukraines capital city ;-) Kiev - in Russian Kyiv - in Ukrainian
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jul 19, 2015 23:06:31 GMT
Київ in Ukrainian
Kyiv everywhere else
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