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Post by baystokie on Jul 19, 2015 20:00:33 GMT
If we activate a release clause they definitely don't have a choice. No maybe They (Dynamo) don't - but the player still does?
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 19, 2015 20:01:58 GMT
Hughes said he was hoping to get in a player of top top quality. He didn't say that would be the end of our business. He was kind of hinting in that direction. "We're still hopeful we can get a player of top, top quality. If we can do that then we will probably be done for the window.
"Would that be Yarmolenko? A player of his type, yes."
or BBC version 14/7/15 We will continue to look to bring in top players right up until the deadline at the end of August," said Hughes Journalistic licence or put another way, they make quotes fit what they want to write. Wait and see in my opinion
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 19, 2015 20:03:42 GMT
according to the BBC We will continue to look to bring in top players right up until the deadline at the end of August," said Hughes they make it up to suit let's wait and see
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 19, 2015 20:12:53 GMT
Sergei RebrovStoke City offer on Yarmolenko? Stoke City is not team for Andrey. I know nothing about this offer, but I said to him that if to go, to team which fights for the Champions League", - said Rebrov
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jul 19, 2015 20:14:35 GMT
Sergei RebrovStoke City offer on Yarmolenko? Stoke City is not team for Andrey. I know nothing about this offer, but I said to him that if to go, to team which fights for the Champions League", - said Rebrov Thats the end of that then
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 19, 2015 20:16:01 GMT
Sergei RebrovStoke City offer on Yarmolenko? Stoke City is not team for Andrey. I know nothing about this offer, but I said to him that if to go, to team which fights for the Champions League", - said Rebrov And this is why I still feel we are unlikely to pull this sort of deal off as yet. The best players (and he's a top international) are always likely to have a more attractive/fashionable option. That's not being negative, just realistic.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 19, 2015 20:18:07 GMT
Message to rebrov. Fuck off.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 19, 2015 20:20:19 GMT
If he is going to leave for a Champions League team, why have we been in discussions with him for the past year?
Surely he would just tell us to fuck off?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 20:20:50 GMT
Sergei RebrovStoke City offer on Yarmolenko? Stoke City is not team for Andrey. I know nothing about this offer, but I said to him that if to go, to team which fights for the Champions League", - said Rebrov Thats the end of that then Can't see how that changes anything, it's the players views on it that counts.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jul 19, 2015 20:21:52 GMT
Thats the end of that then Can't see how that changes anything, it's the players views on it that counts. We'll see mate
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Post by sportsman on Jul 19, 2015 20:23:59 GMT
Another message for rebrov. Maybe just maybe, like nzonzi found out, there may not be loads of champions league clubs battering down doors to sign him.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Jul 19, 2015 20:24:33 GMT
Sergei RebrovStoke City offer on Yarmolenko? Stoke City is not team for Andrey. I know nothing about this offer, but I said to him that if to go, to team which fights for the Champions League", - said Rebrov And this is why I still feel we are unlikely to pull this sort of deal off as yet. The best players (and he's a top international) are always likely to have a more attractive/fashionable option. That's not being negative, just realistic. Totally agree. Get our heads out of the clouds and start working on attracting players that a) we can offer something they'd actually entertain considering and b) would still improve us. These players must be out there, but it just seems like we've pushed our expectations too far with regards to new winger. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 20:24:27 GMT
Hughes was being coy about Yarmolenko because he is clearly using it to encourage another signing, maybe letting Shaqiri reconsider joining us or more likely as leverage for a player whose name hasn't yet been thrown into the mix...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2015 20:24:48 GMT
If he is going to leave for a Champions League team, why have we been in discussions with him for the past year? Surely he would just tell us to fuck off? Save yourself the pain!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 19, 2015 20:25:30 GMT
If he is going to leave for a Champions League team, why have we been in discussions with him for the past year? Surely he would just tell us to fuck off? Yeah -hard to comment without knowing how any conversations we've had with Yarmo have gone? But presumably some of our discussions with Kono looked very positive at one stage. But getting a signature on a contract could be another thing. And these macho Ukrainian owners don't strike you as the types who'd really like to sell their team talisman to a nouveau-riche English upstart. But hopefully we've been given some kind of encouragement somewhere along the line to gives us the impression we aren't wasting our time. If he's mentally lost Yarmo (and it seems he might have) he might realise it's better to get some money for him now, rather than face a Bosman. But can there really only be us in if he's available for £13 or £14m in this crazy market?
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 19, 2015 20:26:42 GMT
Rebrov is only his manager, of course he wants he to stay and he knows no champions league side have shown interest in him so he would advise him to move only to one if them
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Post by Beertricks Potter on Jul 19, 2015 20:27:44 GMT
It could all depend on clauses in his contract. As discussed about Shakiri, he could have a release clause to go to a CL league club if any bid a certain amount for him whilst here. Depends if we can persuade him the the premier league shop window with us can open more doors? We get our 'marquee' signing that improves our status, a class player (hopefully) that we see a minimum of a season for and a profit on his sale if he leaves to the clause. Not an ideal situation but it could pave the way to higher quality signings in the future. Southampton can attract quality signings and to me it's down to the reputation of the clubs and not the size.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 19, 2015 20:27:59 GMT
And this is why I still feel we are unlikely to pull this sort of deal off as yet. The best players (and he's a top international) are always likely to have a more attractive/fashionable option. That's not being negative, just realistic. Totally agree. Get our heads out of the clouds and start working on attracting players that a) we can offer something they'd actually entertain considering and b) would still improve us. These players must be out there, but it just seems like we've pushed our expectations too far with regards to new winger. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards I half agree with you but I don't think the club are wrong to pursue these options and we as fans shouldn't get too down when they don't come off. However as you rightly say we should now target the more realistic players and get on with things.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 19, 2015 20:29:49 GMT
He clearly does want to leave as his comments last month showed. He sounded pretty pissed off.
‘I think that right now is the perfect time to change clubs,’ the 25-year-old said. ‘I promised that until we become champions, I was not going anywhere. I kept my promise, we became champions.
‘The president knows that I want to leave, I have repeatedly spoken about this.’
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 19, 2015 20:31:39 GMT
It could all depend on clauses in his contract. As discussed about Shakiri, he could have a release clause to go to a CL league club if any bid a certain amount for him whilst here. Depends if we can persuade him the the premier league shop window with us can open more doors? We get our 'marquee' signing that improves our status, a class player (hopefully) that we see a minimum of a season for and a profit on his sale if he leaves to the clause. Not an ideal situation but it could pave the way to higher quality signings in the future. Southampton can attract quality signings and to me it's down to the reputation of the clubs and not the size. This is our best chance of getting him
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 19, 2015 20:33:31 GMT
I'd love to know who our other 'big name' targets are.
Seems like we're in talks with a few of them, and based on what Hughes has said recently, talks have been positive.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 19, 2015 20:33:45 GMT
If he is going to leave for a Champions League team, why have we been in discussions with him for the past year? Surely he would just tell us to fuck off? Yeah -hard to comment without knowing how any conversations we've had with Yarmo have gone? But presumably some of our discussions with Kono looked very positive at one stage. But getting a signature on a contract could be another thing. And these macho Ukrainian owners don't strike you as the types who'd really like to sell their team talisman to a nouveau-riche English upstart. But hopefully we've been given some kind of encouragement somewhere along the line to gives us the impression we aren't wasting our time. If he's mentally lost Yarmo (and it seems he might have) he might realise it's better to get some money for him now, rather than face a Bosman. But can there really only be us in if he's available for £13 or £14m in this crazy market? To be honest i really don't care now.These threads are starting to get tedious,and most realistic people know where this one will end.
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Post by Plave on Jul 19, 2015 20:37:18 GMT
If he wants to go to a champions league team he has to go elsewhere in Europe because he wouldn't be starting for any of the English ones.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 19, 2015 20:37:55 GMT
There is always a problem with reported quotes. Unless it's a video or you are there to hear it, what is reported is often what the reporter thought was said at best, loads of room for misquoting.
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Post by ayem on Jul 19, 2015 20:42:14 GMT
It could all depend on clauses in his contract. As discussed about Shakiri, he could have a release clause to go to a CL league club if any bid a certain amount for him whilst here. Depends if we can persuade him the the premier league shop window with us can open more doors? We get our 'marquee' signing that improves our status, a class player (hopefully) that we see a minimum of a season for and a profit on his sale if he leaves to the clause. Not an ideal situation but it could pave the way to higher quality signings in the future. Southampton can attract quality signings and to me it's down to the reputation of the clubs and not the size. I'd imagine they'd like a selling fee,as we have with bojan. And at the price I think the club could still turn a profit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 20:43:44 GMT
Won't happen
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 20:44:11 GMT
Ignore Rebrov. He's still got sand in his dick from his 1 in 6 and 1 in 27 goal average for Spurs and West Ham.
Failed.
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Post by Beertricks Potter on Jul 19, 2015 20:45:54 GMT
It could all depend on clauses in his contract. As discussed about Shakiri, he could have a release clause to go to a CL league club if any bid a certain amount for him whilst here. Depends if we can persuade him the the premier league shop window with us can open more doors? We get our 'marquee' signing that improves our status, a class player (hopefully) that we see a minimum of a season for and a profit on his sale if he leaves to the clause. Not an ideal situation but it could pave the way to higher quality signings in the future. Southampton can attract quality signings and to me it's down to the reputation of the clubs and not the size. I'd imagine they'd like a selling fee,as we have with bojan. And at the price I think the club could still turn a profit. Yeah, That's what I'm getting at. clause to say we accept offer of a certain figure (profit on what we pay) from a CL club.
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Post by ayem on Jul 19, 2015 20:47:52 GMT
I'd imagine they'd like a selling fee,as we have with bojan. And at the price I think the club could still turn a profit. Yeah, That's what I'm getting at. clause to say we accept offer of a certain figure (profit on what we pay) from a CL club. Sounds right. And if the player is happy with wages and hopefully in Europe play then he stays. It's not a terrible idea and the club feels strong about our competitive level. As they should.
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Post by march4 on Jul 19, 2015 20:51:52 GMT
Hughes was being coy about Yarmolenko because he is clearly using it to encourage another signing, maybe letting Shaqiri reconsider joining us or more likely as leverage for a player whose name hasn't yet been thrown into the mix... Just what I was thinking, mate.
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