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Post by StokeAz on Jul 19, 2015 16:22:41 GMT
Apparently reliable source over in Ukraine. It's happening yarmolenko :-)) :-)) :-)) Yep that's his name...
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Post by dazzag99 on Jul 19, 2015 16:23:18 GMT
Wishful thinking with this one, there will be bigger clubs in for him we have just been used to get the ball rolling.
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Post by dazzag99 on Jul 19, 2015 16:24:23 GMT
yarmolenko :-)) :-)) :-)) Yep that's his name... no shit you're pretty sharp there.
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 19, 2015 16:25:02 GMT
Is that 80% taken from the mirrors poll? Some people on twitter and here even talk rubbish... I reckon its far less likely to happen than not happen! I'm sorry people but the chances are about as much as with shaqiri and Konoplyanka... I know it Hurts!
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 19, 2015 16:28:06 GMT
no shit you're pretty sharp there. I just wondered why u put his name... I thought it might have been because u thought the spelling was wrong so same to u... Well nooooooooo if it isn't Yarmolenko... A thread with 56 pages that's gone on for about a year!
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Post by dazzag99 on Jul 19, 2015 16:30:19 GMT
no shit you're pretty sharp there. I just wondered why u put his name... I thought it might have been because u thought the spelling was wrong so same to u... Well nooooooooo if it isn't Yarmolenko... A thread with 56 pages that's gone on for about a year! put his name and tried to do sarcastic smileys but it didn't work
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 19, 2015 16:33:44 GMT
I just wondered why u put his name... I thought it might have been because u thought the spelling was wrong so same to u... Well nooooooooo if it isn't Yarmolenko... A thread with 56 pages that's gone on for about a year! put his name and tried to do sarcastic smileys but it didn't work oh
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Post by stokiemac on Jul 19, 2015 16:34:05 GMT
I'm starting worry Stoke are the unpopular new kid in school who happens to have a rich family and big house....so everyone is our friend and wants to come to our house parties but were not going get laid
This isn't from personal experience by the way, I'm from Chell so I was the kid leaving with that kids Fifa game under my jumper
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Post by robstokie on Jul 19, 2015 16:36:01 GMT
If he comes, ill be jizzing myself... GO AND GET HIM SPARKY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bmstoke on Jul 19, 2015 16:41:35 GMT
Is that 80% taken from the mirrors poll? Some people on twitter and here even talk rubbish... I reckon its far less likely to happen than not happen! I'm sorry people but the chances are about as much as with shaqiri and Konoplyanka... I know it Hurts! I agree that it's a long shot, but if we never try for players of this calibre we will eventually start to stagnate and fall backwards. I truly believe that he could have us pushing for Europe next season, which would make it easier to attract players in the future.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 19, 2015 16:52:15 GMT
Our poor reputation still precedes us despite fantastic work by Hughes and his coaches. This cannot be denied.
We need to just get one over the line then more might come in the future. To do so may involve paying bonkers wages.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 19, 2015 17:03:03 GMT
Pugs bang on and thats the issue for me we don't like paying the going rate but our current market position says we might need to be 50 -100 % higher to get the first one after that it might get gradually easier
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 17:06:58 GMT
Our poor reputation still precedes us despite fantastic work by Hughes and his coaches. This cannot be denied. We need to just get one over the line then more might come in the future. To do so may involve paying bonkers wages. We can't do that. More players will want parity or it could wreck the dressing room. It's what clubs like Pompey did and we must not do the same.
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Post by theteacher on Jul 19, 2015 17:08:30 GMT
Steady improvement. One big signing. Europa League spot and hopefully the brand of Stije City FC will improve enough to get better players to see us as an attractive proposition. A place to come and play to build their (and our) reputation further. Well done LMH.
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Post by Plave on Jul 19, 2015 17:09:21 GMT
This seems to be too rich a deal for us. I can see us dropping a big signing on fee and wages or a big transfer fee but not both.
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Post by bmstoke on Jul 19, 2015 17:09:50 GMT
Pugs bang on and thats the issue for me we don't like paying the going rate but our current market position says we might need to be 50 -100 % higher to get the first one after that it might get gradually easier We supposedly offered Kono £100K a week plus a massive signing on fee. We may have money but we're not Man City or Chelsea.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 19, 2015 17:14:50 GMT
This seems to be too rich a deal for us. I can see us dropping a big signing on fee and wages or a big transfer fee but not both. Instinctively agree - but we seemed to be prepared to go into this kind of financial territory for Shaq (and quite possibly for Kono depending on what level of signing-on fee gymnastics we were really prepared to get into)
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 19, 2015 17:19:04 GMT
This seems to be too rich a deal for us. I can see us dropping a big signing on fee and wages or a big transfer fee but not both. Instinctively agree - but we seemed to be prepared to go into this kind of financial territory for Shaq. I agree Kono deal was a massive financia package for the player due to signing in fee. Shaqiri was a large transfer fee. Very much doubt Stoke will offer both to Yarmo, though the recent sales of Nzonzi and bego could be used on top of transfer kitty set aside for the other deals.
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Post by trigger on Jul 19, 2015 17:26:31 GMT
Instinctively agree - but we seemed to be prepared to go into this kind of financial territory for Shaq. I agree Kono deal was a massive financia package for the player due to signing in fee. Shaqiri was a large transfer fee. Very much doubt Stoke will offer both to Yarmo, though the recent sales of Nzonzi and bego could be used on top of transfer kitty set aside for the other deals. What transfer kitty, you'll find it won't equate much more than what we've taken in so far, I'll stake my reputation on that.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 19, 2015 17:32:18 GMT
I agree Kono deal was a massive financia package for the player due to signing in fee. Shaqiri was a large transfer fee. Very much doubt Stoke will offer both to Yarmo, though the recent sales of Nzonzi and bego could be used on top of transfer kitty set aside for the other deals. What transfer kitty, you'll find it won't equate much more than what we've taken in so far, I'll stake my reputation on that. What reputation? You haven't got one, have you? Not on here at least.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 19, 2015 17:36:43 GMT
Pugs bang on and thats the issue for me we don't like paying the going rate but our current market position says we might need to be 50 -100 % higher to get the first one after that it might get gradually easier We supposedly offered Kono £100K a week plus a massive signing on fee. We may have money but we're not Man City or Chelsea. Signing on fees are spread over the length of the contract
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 19, 2015 17:40:47 GMT
We supposedly offered Kono £100K a week plus a massive signing on fee. We may have money but we're not Man City or Chelsea. Signing on fees are spread over the length of the contract Only for admin sakes they are. Club financiers have to show figures over the lenght of a player contract it's called amortisation
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Post by sportsman on Jul 19, 2015 17:47:06 GMT
Signing on fees are spread over the length of the contract Only for admin sakes they are. Club financiers have to show figures over the lenght of a player contract it's called amortisation Call it what you want, if the club can afford to pay it up front, in stages, all at the end, it doesn't matter as long as stoke are prepared to pay it.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jul 19, 2015 17:48:18 GMT
What transfer kitty, you'll find it won't equate much more than what we've taken in so far, I'll stake my reputation on that. What reputation? You haven't got one, have you? Not on here at least. Hughes has already said that if 'Yarmo' deal happens that will end the club's business. Huth fee = Wolly fee N'Zonzi =£7m perhaps £6m as Blackburn were owed a cut Bego =£8m Hauggard £0.6m van Ginkel loan Given free Johnson free Joselu £5m We know agents fees, signing on fees bump up the cost considerably but as far as transfer fees are concerned we're in profit £8.4m. The 'Yarmo' fee is rumoured to be £12-14m? So, if we bought him we would have spent £3.6 - £5.6m. So, though the wages bill will have increased considerably the transfer fee cost will be very modest when you look at what N'castle, W.H.U. and Crystal Palace are spending. And I daresay Mitrovic, Cabaye are on very big wages. So, If we did got 'Yarmo' it would be a good window but one where we could still find ourselves marking time?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 19, 2015 17:49:12 GMT
Obviously our past reputation will count against us but I genuinely believe these deals are still a bridge too far for us or any other team in our situation given the lack of European football and our standing in the broader football world.
Yes, we have serious financial clout and are a very stable upper mid table Premier League club. However, we are still not considered a serious proposition to these world renowned players.
Unless we are the only show in town then there will always be a bigger club who will think "we may as well sign him" coupled with the fact the player's agent will use us to flush out other suitors willing to pay more money and give their client a bigger stage to perform on.
I wholeheartedly applaud the club for trying to get these higher profile players but the realist in me thinks we will have to settle for slighter lower targets for the time being.
That said, eventually one of these ambitious arrows will hit the bullseye and who knows, it could be Yarmo.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 19, 2015 17:49:39 GMT
Signing on fees are spread over the length of the contract Only for admin sakes they are. Club financiers have to show figures over the lenght of a player contract it's called amortisation So on that, say we had to pay player x a £5m signing on fee to 'soften' the wage difference, how do 'admin' not show a £5m payment going out to player x in august instead of spread over a four year contract?
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 19, 2015 17:50:33 GMT
Our poor reputation still precedes us despite fantastic work by Hughes and his coaches. This cannot be denied. We need to just get one over the line then more might come in the future. To do so may involve paying bonkers wages. We can't do that. More players will want parity or it could wreck the dressing room. It's what clubs like Pompey did and we must not do the same. I just don't agree with that at all. There are large disparities at every club I bet. If we're afraid to push on because some mard arse in the dressing room might kick off then we might as well go home.
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Post by sutekh on Jul 19, 2015 17:50:46 GMT
Sparky and his team need to remember the back of the house as well as the front. We would be far better off waiting for the big apples to fall,then grabbing some bargains in late august when the bigger teams have finished at the table,players with the correct dna who will work hard and put a shift in.
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Post by Stoke70 on Jul 19, 2015 17:51:00 GMT
On wikipedia, current club : Stoke City :-)
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 19, 2015 17:51:21 GMT
Obviously our past reputation will count against us but I genuinely believe these deals are still a bridge to far for us or any other team in our situation given the lack of European football and our standing in the broader football world. Yes, we have serious financial clout and are a very stable upper mid table Premier League club. However, we are still not considered a serious proposition to these world renowned players. Unless we are the only show in town then there will always be a bigger club who will think "we may as well sign him" coupled with the fact the player's agent will use us to flush out other suitors willing to pay more money and give their client a bigger stage to perform on. I wholeheartedly applaud the club for trying to get these higher profile players but the realist in me thinks we will have to settle for slighter lower targets for the time being. That said, eventually one of these ambitious arrows will hit the bullseye and who knows, it could be Yarmo. Well said that man just hope Benji agree's mate.
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