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Post by trigger on Jul 17, 2015 20:51:41 GMT
Whether we get this lad or not, it's obvious that this club has taken huge steps forward from yesteryear, where our primary targets were overpriced Tottenham players and reserve players from Sunderland and Pompey at 11pm on deadline night. We might not get every player we go for, who does? but we now know we have a number of options to take a stab at and that we are casting our net far and wide in search for that next level player. I'm in.[/quote Not wanting to be negative here but the net we're casting is full of massive holes from the start and with limited bait available and a captain at the helm who's only concern is scrimping and saving it doesn't bode well. I'll be the first to praise the owners once/if these so called better players arrive but I very much doubt we'll see them any time soon.
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Post by 99problems on Jul 17, 2015 21:02:59 GMT
Whether we get this lad or not, it's obvious that this club has taken huge steps forward from yesteryear, where our primary targets were overpriced Tottenham players and reserve players from Sunderland and Pompey at 11pm on deadline night. We might not get every player we go for, who does? but we now know we have a number of options to take a stab at and that we are casting our net far and wide in search for that next level player. I'm in.[/quote Not wanting to be negative here but the net we're casting is full of massive holes from the start and with limited bait available and a captain at the helm who's only concern is scrimping and saving it doesn't bode well. I'll be the first to praise the owners once/if these so called better players arrive but I very much doubt we'll see them any time soon. Can't see any evidence that we're scrimping especially, I think we're happy to spend a shit tonne of money on the right player(s), oddly footballers being mercenaries seems to stop at stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 21:12:02 GMT
Not wanting to be negative here but the net we're casting is full of massive holes from the start and with limited bait available and a captain at the helm who's only concern is scrimping and saving it doesn't bode well. I'll be the first to praise the owners once/if these so called better players arrive but I very much doubt we'll see them any time soon. I think there is evidence this summer to suggest we are prepared to spend. We already have spent with Joselu, offered Konplianka a huge deal, had a 12M bid accepted for Shaqiri and we await confirmation of this bid being official. Granted, it isn't spent until it is spent but there are many factors involved. If we didn't go for these players, and spent the odd 3,4 or 5M here and there, there would be plenty of moaning about a lack of ambition. The club can't win whatever they do.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 17, 2015 21:12:20 GMT
Can anybody give me a brief summary of what's happened today? I've not been around much.
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Post by theonlywayisstoke on Jul 17, 2015 21:14:46 GMT
Can anybody give me a brief summary of what's happened today? I've not been around much. Random 'journo' on Twitter linked us with a €20m bid for Yarmolenko. Nobody knows anything about it really. The end.
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Post by trigger on Jul 17, 2015 21:18:46 GMT
That's why I'm moaning were talking big and achieving nothing and spending the odd 5m here and there :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 21:19:48 GMT
I have more chance of Sorenson82 liking me
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Post by theonlywayisstoke on Jul 17, 2015 21:20:23 GMT
Can anybody give me a brief summary of what's happened today? I've not been around much. Random 'journo' on Twitter linked us with a €20m bid for Yarmolenko. Nobody knows anything about it really. The end. P.S. Now papers/websites are running with it. There are no credible sources anymore...all it takes is a Twitter and to write "football journalist/freelance journalist/football agent" in your bio and papers will take that story. (Someone will now reply with a picture of some sort of "sauce"...a play on the word "source"...this tends to be the best part of the thread)
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2015 21:24:17 GMT
I have more chance of Sorenson82 liking me Cretinous post.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 17, 2015 21:24:34 GMT
Can anybody give me a brief summary of what's happened today? I've not been around much. Random 'journo' on non-anonymous blog linked us with a €20m bid for Yarmolenko. Nobody knows anything about it really. The end. Cool. Thanks.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2015 21:28:46 GMT
Can anybody give me a brief summary of what's happened today? I've not been around much. Random 'journo' on Twitter linked us with a €20m bid for Yarmolenko. Nobody knows anything about it really. The end. To be fair, wasn't the source of today's flurry of Yarmo madness this Ukrainian sports site? - not to say we know there's anything at all in the story? Take the point that it takes very little of substance to create a twitter shitstorm though! link"Stoke City" came for Yarmolenko The English club is serious about purchase of Ukraine midfielder. According to a MatchDay source close to the Kiev club, representatives of "Stoke City" arrived in Kiev for talks on the transfer of winger Andrei Yarmolenko. According to information received, the British made "Dynamo" a formal proposal, stating that they are willing to pay for the 25-year-old about 20 million euros. Himself footballer "Stoke City" promises a very attractive terms of personal contract.
Earlier, the "Stock" actively interested Yevgen Konoplyanka and even considered the possibility of acquiring the Ukrainian national team midfielder. But he eventually chose the Spanish "Seville".
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 17, 2015 21:30:57 GMT
I am a bit surprised he hasn't moved onto bigger things. He does look like an excellent player the few times I've seen him for Ukraine and a couple of times in Europe.
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Post by theonlywayisstoke on Jul 17, 2015 21:42:22 GMT
Random 'journo' on Twitter linked us with a €20m bid for Yarmolenko. Nobody knows anything about it really. The end. To be fair, wasn't the source of today's flurry of Yarmo madness this Ukrainian sports site? - not to say we know there's anything at all in the story? Take the point that it takes very little of substance to create a twitter shitstorm though! link"Stoke City" came for Yarmolenko The English club is serious about purchase of Ukraine midfielder. According to a MatchDay source close to the Kiev club, representatives of "Stoke City" arrived in Kiev for talks on the transfer of winger Andrei Yarmolenko. According to information received, the British made "Dynamo" a formal proposal, stating that they are willing to pay for the 25-year-old about 20 million euros. Himself footballer "Stoke City" promises a very attractive terms of personal contract.
Earlier, the "Stock" actively interested Yevgen Konoplyanka and even considered the possibility of acquiring the Ukrainian national team midfielder. But he eventually chose the Spanish "Seville". I'd love it to be true, but I can't see this being more than the agent drumming up a "come and get me" from other clubs. This 'journo' also messaged someone (sorry I forgot who) saying he could see it happening (or something to that degree)...I'm forever the pessimist but even more so after how the past two worked out (and how the press published literally anything posted on Twitter). I'm just worried that realistic targets will look unfavourably on Stoke getting pied off so many times and don't want to be seen as Stoke's 8th choice winger. I've been listening to The Smiths all day so maybe I'm just being overly negative and depressing haha
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 17, 2015 21:52:23 GMT
That's why I'm moaning were talking big and achieving nothing and spending the odd 5m here and there :-) It's like this "Trigger", you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. We just have to keep making offers till we land a big one, meanwhile we keep tending to the squad "with the odd £5m" (how things have changed at Stoke these last 6 years!) and preparing for the medium and longer term.
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Post by xxstokiestanxx on Jul 17, 2015 21:53:23 GMT
This thread will be a slow burner until we get some better intel from the itk people, then it will grow very fast if its positive news.
does that make me itk?
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Post by breakonthrough on Jul 17, 2015 21:55:41 GMT
To be fair, wasn't the source of today's flurry of Yarmo madness this Ukrainian sports site? - not to say we know there's anything at all in the story? Take the point that it takes very little of substance to create a twitter shitstorm though! link"Stoke City" came for Yarmolenko The English club is serious about purchase of Ukraine midfielder. According to a MatchDay source close to the Kiev club, representatives of "Stoke City" arrived in Kiev for talks on the transfer of winger Andrei Yarmolenko. According to information received, the British made "Dynamo" a formal proposal, stating that they are willing to pay for the 25-year-old about 20 million euros. Himself footballer "Stoke City" promises a very attractive terms of personal contract.
Earlier, the "Stock" actively interested Yevgen Konoplyanka and even considered the possibility of acquiring the Ukrainian national team midfielder. But he eventually chose the Spanish "Seville". I'd love it to be true, but I can't see this being more than the agent drumming up a "come and get me" from other clubs. This 'journo' also messaged someone (sorry I forgot who) saying he could see it happening (or something to that degree)...I'm forever the pessimist but even more so after how the past two worked out (and how the press published literally anything posted on Twitter). I'm just worried that realistic targets will look unfavourably on Stoke getting pied off so many times and don't want to be seen as Stoke's 8th choice winger. I've been listening to The Smiths all day so maybe I'm just being overly negative and depressing haha Heaven knows your miserable now..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 23:47:37 GMT
I have more chance of Sorenson82 liking me Cretinous post. Two wrong don't make a right sir brave
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Post by foster on Jul 17, 2015 23:55:50 GMT
I have more chance of Sorenson82 liking me Cretinous post. Got a point though.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 18, 2015 0:20:34 GMT
Very tenious link indeed, I don't think we were even in for him first time around.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 18, 2015 0:25:59 GMT
Very tenious link indeed, I don't think we were even in for him first time around. At last, proof he's on the verge of signing!!!!!!
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Post by MrMagic on Jul 18, 2015 4:51:45 GMT
Very tenious link indeed, I don't think we were even in for him first time around. The most positive news this week. I expect him here within the week now.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 18, 2015 8:15:29 GMT
kvedomosti.com/57751-yarmolenko-mechtaet-o-chelsi.htmltranslates to "Yarmolenko dreams of "Chelsea" The leader of the "Dynamo" Andriy Yarmolenko decided on the first option to continue a career. The British edition of the «Metro» informs about the struggle for the 25-year-old midfielder Andriy Yarmolenko - Ukrainians in their ranks want to see the "Chelsea" and "Liverpool", his word is trying to say and middle of the Premier League, "Stoke City". It was learned that representatives of the "Potter" arrived in Ukraine with a specific proposal on Yarmolenko - "Stoke City", who lost the race for Yevgen Konoplyanka, it offers "Dynamo" 20 million euros. Himself Ukrainian inclined to move into the "Chelsea", where its position at the "aristocracy" plenty of skilled performers. Yarmolenko prefer to go to the club, won the right to speak in the group stage of the Champions League. In this case, Ukrainian champion certainly interested in the proposal of France, "PSG" and vice-champion of Italy "Roma". However, while representatives of the League 1 and Serie A is not particularly also active in the struggle for the leader of the "Dinamo", giving the initiative to the British club. See also: Yarmolenko interesting "Chelsea" and "Liverpool" The approximate transfer of Andrei Yarmolenko replenish the budget "Dynamo" for 26 million euros. Thus, a graduate of the club will be the most expensive footballer in the history of "white-blue" ...." I have this awful feeling we're being used again.
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 18, 2015 8:42:08 GMT
kvedomosti.com/57751-yarmolenko-mechtaet-o-chelsi.htmltranslates to "Yarmolenko dreams of "Chelsea" The leader of the "Dynamo" Andriy Yarmolenko decided on the first option to continue a career. The British edition of the «Metro» informs about the struggle for the 25-year-old midfielder Andriy Yarmolenko - Ukrainians in their ranks want to see the "Chelsea" and "Liverpool", his word is trying to say and middle of the Premier League, "Stoke City". It was learned that representatives of the "Potter" arrived in Ukraine with a specific proposal on Yarmolenko - "Stoke City", who lost the race for Yevgen Konoplyanka, it offers "Dynamo" 20 million euros. Himself Ukrainian inclined to move into the "Chelsea", where its position at the "aristocracy" plenty of skilled performers. Yarmolenko prefer to go to the club, won the right to speak in the group stage of the Champions League. In this case, Ukrainian champion certainly interested in the proposal of France, "PSG" and vice-champion of Italy "Roma". However, while representatives of the League 1 and Serie A is not particularly also active in the struggle for the leader of the "Dinamo", giving the initiative to the British club. See also: Yarmolenko interesting "Chelsea" and "Liverpool" The approximate transfer of Andrei Yarmolenko replenish the budget "Dynamo" for 26 million euros. Thus, a graduate of the club will be the most expensive footballer in the history of "white-blue" ...." I have this awful feeling we're being used again. Why would Chelsea or psg want him? Is he better than Willian and cuadrado? Probably not...
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 18, 2015 8:43:56 GMT
We're not even being used Cobs.
It's a total bs story.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 8:46:47 GMT
Chelski. Greedy b's!
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Post by Davef on Jul 18, 2015 8:47:39 GMT
Oh spare me this "we're being used" tripe again. We're big boys, we know what we're getting ourselves into when we show interest in these players.
We're competing with some of the richest clubs in world football. There is the potential for us to be used in any transfer deal we enter into. That's the nature of the business.
Unless you only show interest in poor, desperate players.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 18, 2015 8:55:18 GMT
Very tenious link indeed, I don't think we were even in for him first time around. Is a tenious link a bit like a heinous link? Only worser.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 8:56:05 GMT
Oh spare me this "we're being used" tripe again. We're big boys, we know what we're getting ourselves into when we show interest in these players. We're competing with some of the richest clubs in world football. There is the potential for us to be used in any transfer deal we enter into. That's the nature of the business. Unless you only show interest in poor, desperate players. It happens in all kinds of business not just football.
All this is part of trying to move up the football food chain, We are casting our net and we will catch a couple in the next 6 weeks.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 18, 2015 8:59:26 GMT
"The richest clubs in world football" can only have a squad of 25 players over the age of 21 and 11 on the pitch at any one time!
We will not be playing European football this season, but like any international player, they need to be "on view" during the season
One of these pursuits will pay off, even if it isn't Yarmolenko.
The snowball effect is only just beginning
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Post by pyrus on Jul 18, 2015 9:39:00 GMT
It's all feeling like a déjà vu journey. I googled him and started to think that his full name was 'Spurs-and-liverpool-target Yarmolenko'
The Spurs link is shit for everyone. I thought it was Redknapp's MO, but I now think Levy works the same way. They basically take the view that even if they don't really want a player, they will use their position and do their damnedest to make sure no one else gets the player either.
Liverpool are like teenagers with their first credit card at the moment. They might just buy him because they can, without even knowing what they would do with him. Chelsea and PSG? Interesting, he's much more likely to be a squad player with those teams, but a very well paid squad player ...and if you've been brought up in the Ukraine, and you're offered a shit load of money, a luxury pad in Knightsbridge and the occasional cup game ...well it may just sound better than The Potteries Shopping centre and a regular starting place ...roughly similar to living and playing in Kiev, I would think.
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