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Post by 99problems on Jul 17, 2015 19:12:23 GMT
I'm all for getting better personnel, but im getting a bit pessimistic with these big name stars.there has to be more viable targets who would still improve us.
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Post by algor on Jul 17, 2015 19:16:46 GMT
I'm all for getting better personnel, but im getting a bit pessimistic with these big name stars.there has to be more viable targets who would still improve us. To be fair mate we do still have 7 weeks of the window left, plenty of time to try for the top rated players and then move down the list if we have to.
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Post by bmstoke on Jul 17, 2015 19:23:55 GMT
I'm all for getting better personnel, but im getting a bit pessimistic with these big name stars.there has to be more viable targets who would still improve us. Andros Townsend it is then.
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Post by petemac on Jul 17, 2015 19:23:47 GMT
Stoke just keep moving forward. That's what matters. I often think, we will enjoy this ride as it goes but it will all come to an end. I believe we got promotion to the prem at just the right time when money from TV went up and up. And we dug our heels in and stayed up season after season. Talking to my mate about the 90's we had a mutual dislike for each other's team, the Dave Regis puddle gate the Golden frikkin goal at the Brit. But he also admits the gulf between the two clubs are now as wide as the universe.
We are in a good place now.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Jul 17, 2015 19:24:47 GMT
Yarmolenko now is it.
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Post by petemac on Jul 17, 2015 19:25:42 GMT
I'm all for getting better personnel, but im getting a bit pessimistic with these big name stars.there has to be more viable targets who would still improve us. Andros Townsend it is then. Am I the only one that think this guy is actually a very good player. He plays really well for England and I think Hughes will get the best out of the lad. Only downside is getting injured
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Post by bmstoke on Jul 17, 2015 19:27:37 GMT
Andros Townsend it is then. Am I the only one that think this guy is actually a very good player. He plays really well for England and I think Hughes will get the best out of the lad. Only downside is getting injured I wouldn't mind him at all, would rather have Yarmo though.
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Post by thestokielad on Jul 17, 2015 19:28:06 GMT
He's waaaay better than konoplyanka. Really hope we sign this guy but I can't see him wanting to join stoke
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Post by petemac on Jul 17, 2015 19:29:22 GMT
Am I the only one that think this guy is actually a very good player. He plays really well for England and I think Hughes will get the best out of the lad. Only downside is getting injured I wouldn't mind him at all, would rather have Yarmo though. Yes agree with that
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 19:31:37 GMT
Whether we get this lad or not, it's obvious that this club has taken huge steps forward from yesteryear, where our primary targets were overpriced Tottenham players and reserve players from Sunderland and Pompey at 11pm on deadline night.
We might not get every player we go for, who does? but we now know we have a number of options to take a stab at and that we are casting our net far and wide in search for that next level player.
I'm in.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 17, 2015 19:32:34 GMT
I'm saying your back peddling. Where's Shaqiri again? What are you banging your gums about? When did is say he was coming? What a valve.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Jul 17, 2015 19:38:51 GMT
When even the Yaks in outta Mongolia have heard we have placed a bid. You just know we are in trouble about signing him.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 17, 2015 19:42:57 GMT
Thing is we made a bid (and had it accepted) for Shaqiri without being sure that he wanted to come. We had spoke to his agent who have us the impression that he could persuade Shaqiri it would be a good move for him to get his career back in track, a good platform to move back to a champions league side. Unfortunately Shaqiri needed more persuading that thought. So when we did bid we thought we had a chance at least, same with Konoplyanka, who was willing to buy out his 3rd party agreement to move to Stoke, but Kolomoskyi refused to sell his share in the player, so he had to move to a club that allowed 3rd party involvement. Madrid refused to meet the demands of a 40% sell on clause made payable to Kolomoskyi but Seville agreed at the second attempt, making him a possible £13mill fortune if Seville sell for his release fee That's kind of my point mate. We put a bid in believing the player wouldn't need too much persuading but it ultimately turned out that he needed much more persuading than we thought. So just BECAUSE we've put a bid in this time doesn't necessarily mean that things will be different this time. Let's hope they are, of course.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 17, 2015 19:44:42 GMT
We had spoke to his agent who have us the impression that he could persuade Shaqiri it would be a good move for him to get his career back in track, a good platform to move back to a champions league side. Unfortunately Shaqiri needed more persuading that thought. So when we did bid we thought we had a chance at least, same with Konoplyanka, who was willing to buy out his 3rd party agreement to move to Stoke, but Kolomoskyi refused to sell his share in the player, so he had to move to a club that allowed 3rd party involvement. Madrid refused to meet the demands of a 40% sell on clause made payable to Kolomoskyi but Seville agreed at the second attempt, making him a possible £13mill fortune if Seville sell for his release fee That's kind of my point mate. We put a bid in believing the player wouldn't need too much persuading but it ultimately turned out that he needed much more persuading than we thought. So just BECAUSE we've put a bid in this time doesn't necessarily mean that things will be different this time. Let's hope they are, of course. Totally with you, Paul. There is a huge gulf between us agreeing a fee, maybe even offering the right wages and a player deciding to sign for us.
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 17, 2015 19:52:32 GMT
We had spoke to his agent who have us the impression that he could persuade Shaqiri it would be a good move for him to get his career back in track, a good platform to move back to a champions league side. Unfortunately Shaqiri needed more persuading that thought. So when we did bid we thought we had a chance at least, same with Konoplyanka, who was willing to buy out his 3rd party agreement to move to Stoke, but Kolomoskyi refused to sell his share in the player, so he had to move to a club that allowed 3rd party involvement. Madrid refused to meet the demands of a 40% sell on clause made payable to Kolomoskyi but Seville agreed at the second attempt, making him a possible £13mill fortune if Seville sell for his release fee That's kind of my point mate. We put a bid in believing the player wouldn't need too much persuading but it ultimately turned out that he needed much more persuading than we thought. So just BECAUSE we've put a bid in this time doesn't necessarily mean that things will be different this time. Let's hope they are, of course. Difference is, it's the player we have kept in contact with not his agent,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 19:54:11 GMT
That's kind of my point mate. We put a bid in believing the player wouldn't need too much persuading but it ultimately turned out that he needed much more persuading than we thought. So just BECAUSE we've put a bid in this time doesn't necessarily mean that things will be different this time. Let's hope they are, of course. Difference is, it's the player we have kept in contact with not his agent, Is that strictly legal?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 17, 2015 19:54:09 GMT
That's kind of my point mate. We put a bid in believing the player wouldn't need too much persuading but it ultimately turned out that he needed much more persuading than we thought. So just BECAUSE we've put a bid in this time doesn't necessarily mean that things will be different this time. Let's hope they are, of course. Difference is, it's the player we have kept in contact with not his agent, Is this through Mr Mellor?
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Post by xxstokiestanxx on Jul 17, 2015 20:01:17 GMT
Yes but we kept in contact ever since, so doubt we would attempt a bid without knowing he would be willing to move. Don't know his exact release clause but it's not far above what we have supposedly bid, which takes Kiev out the equation. He has no third parties so not a Kono situation as far as I am aware Thing is we made a bid (and had it accepted) for Shaqiri without being sure that he wanted to come. No pm from Mr Views on this one Paul?
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 17, 2015 20:08:32 GMT
Difference is, it's the player we have kept in contact with not his agent, Is this through Mr Mellor? Yarmo's agent is Mino Raiola
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 17, 2015 20:11:03 GMT
Is this through Mr Mellor? Yarmo's agent is Mino Raiola Sorry didn't make that clear, there was the picture of them together wasn't there or was too much read into that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 20:16:10 GMT
Yarmo's agent is Mino Raiola Sorry didn't make that clear, there was the picture of them together wasn't there or was too much read into that? He changed agent's a while ago.
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Post by miggo on Jul 17, 2015 20:17:31 GMT
Is this through Mr Mellor? Yarmo's agent is Mino Raiola It is indeed, same as ossaidi and look how that ended.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 17, 2015 20:17:53 GMT
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 17, 2015 20:17:59 GMT
Well this could be fun!
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Post by baystokie on Jul 17, 2015 20:18:22 GMT
Yes but we kept in contact ever since, so doubt we would attempt a bid without knowing he would be willing to move. Don't know his exact release clause but it's not far above what we have supposedly bid, which takes Kiev out the equation. He has no third parties so not a Kono situation as far as I am aware Thing is we made a bid (and had it accepted) for Shaqiri without being sure that he wanted to come. Maybe so but even if we had assurances from Shaqiri that he would come, we could not necessarily rely on this - Let's face it, Villa may have changed their transfer plans when Delph told them he was staying, Villa hardly to blame when it blows up in their face - so much for assurances?
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Post by ladsinredandwhite on Jul 17, 2015 20:34:42 GMT
If he signs before 100 pages great. If he doesn't then he isn't coming- FFS.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 17, 2015 20:43:51 GMT
There's more chance of Sol Campbell joining the KKK than this signing happening.
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 17, 2015 20:45:23 GMT
There's more chance of Sol Campbell joining the KKK than this signing happening. Sol is that deluded he is pissed off that a black man has not been interviewed to lead the KKK
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 17, 2015 20:46:26 GMT
I'm one million percent convinced he's coming to Stoke City.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 17, 2015 20:49:57 GMT
Difference is, it's the player we have kept in contact with not his agent, Is this through Mr Mellor? Yeah it is....its been ongoing for ages.
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