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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 11, 2014 7:06:21 GMT
Yeah I concur, that Stokie Standway fella is just an ordinary fan who thinks he is connected. Ignore what he says. I'm definitely more inclined to believe SL & P, I can't believe that the deal is as close as CRS purports. As I stated on another thread, I firmly believe we will acquire Assaidi only, with hopefully some well needed sales concluding our transfer business. I think we need one big signing to kick us on. If we don't it will be three windows without spending much money. Personally i'm fine with that and understand the ins and outs of it all, but the wider picture with the supporter base *might* be very different. 3..4..5 transfer windows of nominal fee's and some people will start to ask questions, especially if form takes a dip. But do we look potentially a better team with these "nominal fee" signings? it's not all about how much money you can spunk up the wall.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 11, 2014 7:08:42 GMT
In practice I think you need the selling club's permission - rather than final acceptance of your bid. Barca allowed us to speak to Bojan (and give him a medical) two weeks before the deal was done. I don't know if Barca had accepted our bid at that point or whether they were still listening to other bids. In other words, I don't know if the delay was down solely to Bojan or whether Barca had more negotiating to do as well. Yes, I think the club could give permission for the player to talk to us before the bid is accepted - I would imagine we would have to be a long way down the road in the bid negotiations with the club to be talking to the player about his terms though, if that is what is happening.
SL&P seem to be saying they think Kyiv are holding out for other bids and are not near to accepting our offer - But they are also hint that the player is talking terms with SCFC today/this week. I am not to sure how those two pieces of information match.
I've given up worrying about the ins and outs. If it happens it happens. If it don't it don't!
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 11, 2014 7:09:15 GMT
In practice I think you need the selling club's permission - rather than final acceptance of your bid. Barca allowed us to speak to Bojan (and give him a medical) two weeks before the deal was done. I don't know if Barca had accepted our bid at that point or whether they were still listening to other bids. In other words, I don't know if the delay was down solely to Bojan or whether Barca had more negotiating to do as well. Yes, I think the club could give permission for the player to talk to us before the bid is accepted - I would imagine we would have to be a long way down the road in the bid negotiations with the club to be talking to the player about his terms though, if that is what is happening.
SL&P seem to be saying they think Kyiv are holding out for other bids and are not near to accepting our offer - But they are also hint that the player is talking terms with SCFC today/this week. I am not to sure how those two pieces of information match.
No player talking terms, just stoke reps meet on Mondays to talk about on going dealings and Yarmolenko is at forefront
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 11, 2014 7:21:21 GMT
Yes, I think the club could give permission for the player to talk to us before the bid is accepted - I would imagine we would have to be a long way down the road in the bid negotiations with the club to be talking to the player about his terms though, if that is what is happening.
SL&P seem to be saying they think Kyiv are holding out for other bids and are not near to accepting our offer - But they are also hint that the player is talking terms with SCFC today/this week. I am not to sure how those two pieces of information match.
I've given up worrying about the ins and outs. If it happens it happens. If it don't it don't! That's definitely my attitude these days as well Lakeland. Saying that, it would be epic if we pulled this one off.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 11, 2014 8:59:56 GMT
I've given up worrying about the ins and outs. If it happens it happens. If it don't it don't! That's definitely my attitude these days as well Lakeland. Saying that, it would be epic if we pulled this one off. Agreed. Pity the club's letters are too big to fit "I want Yarmo's babies" on the back of this year's away shirt - because that's what I'd like on it if he signs!
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Post by werrington on Aug 11, 2014 9:31:28 GMT
How strapped for cash are Kiev? Will they risk losing him for nothing in 12 months time. I know Hannover took that on the chin with Diouf but I would have thought Kiev could not be happy about losing a guaranteed £12 million? Hannovers refusal to play ball last summer backfired though LP They refused £6m for a player one one year left on his contract and he then got injured ( I think ) for most of last season It's a risk for the selling club
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 11, 2014 9:31:28 GMT
He's obviously going be paraded pre-villa game! Scarf aloft!
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Post by cransonsrightshin on Aug 11, 2014 9:41:26 GMT
Meeting today at 13.00GMT
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Post by crownmeking on Aug 11, 2014 9:43:17 GMT
Meeting today at 13.00GMT Who is meeting? Just SCFC people or the player/agent too?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 11, 2014 9:44:43 GMT
Meeting today at 13.00GMT Are you related to Hackett?
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Post by crouchbot on Aug 11, 2014 9:50:05 GMT
Meeting today at 13.00GMT Are you related to Hackett? Or... The same person?!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 11, 2014 9:50:51 GMT
How strapped for cash are Kiev? Will they risk losing him for nothing in 12 months time. I know Hannover took that on the chin with Diouf but I would have thought Kiev could not be happy about losing a guaranteed £12 million? Hannovers refusal to play ball last summer backfired though LP They refused £6m for a player one one year left on his contract and he then got injured ( I think ) for most of last season It's a risk for the selling club Yes, I agree. If I were running a club I would never let a player's contract run down if I could avoid it - unless he was old and near the end of his career - or called Wilson Palacios!
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Post by Jimm on Aug 11, 2014 9:51:38 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 11, 2014 9:54:33 GMT
Are you related to Hackett? Or... The same person?! Hmm I think you might be right good sir.
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 11, 2014 10:32:06 GMT
How strapped for cash are Kiev? Will they risk losing him for nothing in 12 months time. I know Hannover took that on the chin with Diouf but I would have thought Kiev could not be happy about losing a guaranteed £12 million? Hannovers refusal to play ball last summer backfired though LP They refused £6m for a player one one year left on his contract and he then got injured ( I think ) for most of last season It's a risk for the selling club Didn't the club chairman value him at 17million at one point? Ha!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 11, 2014 10:35:47 GMT
Hannovers refusal to play ball last summer backfired though LP They refused £6m for a player one one year left on his contract and he then got injured ( I think ) for most of last season It's a risk for the selling club Didn't the club chairman value him at 17million at one point? Ha! Yes, it was the strangest auction I've seen. There was only one bidder (us) and the price kept going up instead of down. Fair play to our club we didn't blink and got him on a free in the end.
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 11, 2014 10:39:20 GMT
Didn't the club chairman value him at 17million at one point? Ha! Yes, it was the strangest auction I've seen. There was only one bidder (us) and the price kept going up instead of down. Fair play to our club we didn't blink and got him on a free in the end. What was the highest bid in the end? Such poor business from his point of view. Living in dream land.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 11, 2014 10:40:43 GMT
Yes, it was the strangest auction I've seen. There was only one bidder (us) and the price kept going up instead of down. Fair play to our club we didn't blink and got him on a free in the end. What was the highest bid in the end? Such poor business from his point of view. Living in dream land. I'm not sure if we went to £6 million or £7 million. Certainly no higher.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 11, 2014 10:52:46 GMT
Hannovers refusal to play ball last summer backfired though LP They refused £6m for a player one one year left on his contract and he then got injured ( I think ) for most of last season It's a risk for the selling club Yes, I agree. If I were running a club I would never let a player's contract run down if I could avoid it - unless he was old and near the end of his career - or called Wilson Palacios! Crouch's situation seems to be heading that way!
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Post by cransonsrightshin on Aug 11, 2014 10:57:38 GMT
Yarmolenko has changed his agent very recently.
This has significantly helped Stoke.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 11, 2014 11:02:19 GMT
Yarmolenko has changed his agent very recently. This has significantly helped Stoke. Hopefully not the same one as Assaidi
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 11:05:27 GMT
For somebody with no interest in posting on this board regularly, you're posting quite regularly.
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Post by cransonsrightshin on Aug 11, 2014 11:10:28 GMT
For somebody with no interest in posting on this board regularly, you're posting quite regularly. How often have I posted elsewhere on the board ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 11:12:04 GMT
For somebody with no interest in posting on this board regularly, you're posting quite regularly. How often have I posted elsewhere on the board ? As long as you don't post elsewhere then all is fine
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 11:12:42 GMT
Yarmolenko has changed his agent very recently. This has significantly helped Stoke. Chance of it being done before Villa?.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 11, 2014 11:13:06 GMT
For somebody with no interest in posting on this board regularly, you're posting quite regularly. How often have I posted elsewhere on the board ? Well, 19 posts is regular in my book. Hancock rarely puts a foot wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 11:23:04 GMT
Yarmolenko has changed his agent very recently. This has significantly helped Stoke. Come on. Let's get it done.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 11, 2014 11:24:38 GMT
Yarmolenko has changed his agent very recently. This has significantly helped Stoke. Come on. Let's get it done. In time for Villa!
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Post by Northy on Aug 11, 2014 11:26:25 GMT
Meeting today at 13.00GMT same here, conference call at work
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Post by stokiemarc on Aug 11, 2014 11:27:00 GMT
Come on. Let's get it done. In time for Villa! But then, who would be the front 4?? This is blagging my head, who'd miss out? It would be Arnie for me ( which is ridiculous) but Ireland and Bojan are on the same page, Ireland will be immense this season, and I still think we need That Diouf presence up top. What a dilemma Sparky will have if this comes off!
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