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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 27, 2014 17:06:20 GMT
A good day for English cricket all round.
Push on to 500+ boys.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 27, 2014 17:59:31 GMT
Funny thing sport.
Take Jadeja - the hero of Lords; great innings and finished the game by running out his arch enemy Anderson. But today - the villain for dropping Cook.
That might have a monumental effect on this series. Because Cook responded well, although he fluffed his lines with a century beckoning.
Won the test, lost the series.
Be nice (for us) if we look back at that moment this morning as the turning point for England this summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 18:20:30 GMT
Funny thing sport. Take Jadeja - the hero of Lords; great innings and finished the game by running out his arch enemy Anderson. But today - the villain for dropping Cook. That might have a monumental effect on this series. Because Cook responded well, although he fluffed his lines with a century beckoning. Won the test, lost the series. Be nice (for us) if we look back at that moment this morning as the turning point for England this summer. It may well be that it does have that effect , once he got to 30 or 40 Cook looked much more like the Cook of old, he was certainly hitting the ball in a positive manner such as we haven't seen in around twelve months .....it's remarkable how the game is able to change within such a short space of time , I fancy us to push on and make a goodish score tomorrow and then come out and bowl well taking some early wickets it looks a decent pitch ,but I feel Anderson and Broad may do something with the new ball if of course they bowl the right length
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 27, 2014 18:36:06 GMT
Funny thing sport. Take Jadeja - the hero of Lords; great innings and finished the game by running out his arch enemy Anderson. But today - the villain for dropping Cook. That might have a monumental effect on this series. Because Cook responded well, although he fluffed his lines with a century beckoning. Won the test, lost the series. Be nice (for us) if we look back at that moment this morning as the turning point for England this summer. It may well be that it does have that effect , once he got to 30 or 40 Cook looked much more like the Cook of old, he was certainly hitting the ball in a positive manner such as we haven't seen in around twelve months .....it's remarkable how the game is able to change within such a short space of time , I fancy us to push on and make a goodish score tomorrow and then come out and bowl well taking some early wickets it looks a decent pitch ,but I feel Anderson and Broad may do something with the new ball if of course they bowl the right length 247 on the face of is quite a low total to have scored in a full days play on what looks like an easy batting wicket, but we should be able to pick up the rate tomorrow with more aggressive batsmen to come. I understand the reason for the caution today and that is fair enough, but England need to think about how they can be more assertive when they have the upper hand. It's something we've lost in the past two years and is part of the reason why we are struggling. Cricket is a game that ebbs and flows; there are times when your opponent is in the ascendency and you have to dig deep to stay in the game, and other times when you get on top and then you have to assert yourself. Dominate the opposition, demoralise them, take the game away from them. I'm making this point because although we've had the best of day one, we haven't established a dominant position. It's been a good day, not a great one. What I'm interested in is us winning the test and there's a long way to go for that to happen. Let's see how we approach the game over the next day or so and see how we exploit the platform built today.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 11:56:48 GMT
Well played Gary Ballance superb innings ......and he didn't hit it !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 12:03:19 GMT
358-3 at lunch , going nicely at the moment
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 28, 2014 12:12:11 GMT
Well played Gary Ballance superb innings ......and he didn't hit it ! Brings up the use of DRS again. I wonder what will prompt India to change its opinion. Anyway - England continue to flourish. Over a hundred runs in a morning is good going. Steady progress for the next 90 mins or so before pressing the accelerator hard before tea and an hour or so afterwards. Looking like Butler could be coming in to bat with a licence to smash the ball around. Could be fun after tea!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 12:17:49 GMT
Decent by England, the pitch looks like a batters paradise though so a draw has got to be favourite. If Ali can get a few to grip and turn he might be our ace in the pack...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 12:18:22 GMT
Well played Gary Ballance superb innings ......and he didn't hit it ! Brings up the use of DRS again. I wonder what will prompt India to change its opinion. Anyway - England continue to flourish. Over a hundred runs in a morning is good going. Steady progress for the next 90 mins or so before pressing the accelerator hard before tea and an hour or so afterwards. Looking like Butler could be coming in to bat with a licence to smash the ball around. Could be fun after tea! Yes it was a poor decision .....it's got to be brought in for all games India must agree to it . Agreed about stepping up the rate before tea , it would be nice to have ago at them for about an hour or so with around 500 on the board
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 12:21:03 GMT
Decent by England, the pitch looks like a batters paradise though so a draw has got to be favourite. If Ali can get a few to grip and turn he might be our ace in the pack... Yes one or two have turned a bit , but very slowly .....New ball may do a bit ,but not for long .
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 28, 2014 12:41:15 GMT
Brings up the use of DRS again. I wonder what will prompt India to change its opinion. Anyway - England continue to flourish. Over a hundred runs in a morning is good going. Steady progress for the next 90 mins or so before pressing the accelerator hard before tea and an hour or so afterwards. Looking like Butler could be coming in to bat with a licence to smash the ball around. Could be fun after tea! Yes it was a poor decision .....it's got to be brought in for all games India must agree to it . Agreed about stepping up the rate before tea , it would be nice to have ago at them for about an hour or so with around 500 on the board I would like to have seen us getting 600+ in the first innings and having a bowl at them this evening. It's possible; score, say 120 in the afternoon, and then 120 in 80 minutes in a slog after tea would give us half an hour with the new ball before close. Big ask though - the slog is possible; the issue may be maintaining a high enough run rate in the afternoon. A long as we don't go into our shell if we lose a couple of wickets. We need the win, so the onus is on us to force the pace.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 28, 2014 12:41:45 GMT
Lets hope we dont have another collapse,and lose 7 wkts,for very few runs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 13:04:37 GMT
Yes it was a poor decision .....it's got to be brought in for all games India must agree to it . Agreed about stepping up the rate before tea , it would be nice to have ago at them for about an hour or so with around 500 on the board I would like to have seen us getting 600+ in the first innings and having a bowl at them this evening. It's possible; score, say 120 in the afternoon, and then 120 in 80 minutes in a slog after tea would give us half an hour with the new ball before close. Big ask though - the slog is possible; the issue may be maintaining a high enough run rate in the afternoon. A long as we don't go into our shell if we lose a couple of wickets. We need the win, so the onus is on us to force the pace. Whatever the score may be ,it will take a lot of good bowling to get India out twice on this pitch I think .....think positive and you never can tell though
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 28, 2014 13:46:49 GMT
I would like to have seen us getting 600+ in the first innings and having a bowl at them this evening. It's possible; score, say 120 in the afternoon, and then 120 in 80 minutes in a slog after tea would give us half an hour with the new ball before close. Big ask though - the slog is possible; the issue may be maintaining a high enough run rate in the afternoon. A long as we don't go into our shell if we lose a couple of wickets. We need the win, so the onus is on us to force the pace. Whatever the score may be ,it will take a lot of good bowling to get India out twice on this pitch I think .....think positive and you never can tell though Agreed - we need everything in our advantage, including a dauting target to avoid the follow on. Scoreboard pressue... I suspect though we might be looking at an Indian 1st innings declaration sometime after tea on day 4! For the sake of teh paynmgh public and cricket generally I hope not. A run festival is not cricket at its best.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 13:57:22 GMT
That's the way to bring up your hundred !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:00:50 GMT
Superb batting by Bell
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 28, 2014 14:05:54 GMT
Bell always scores a century when someone ahead of him gets one first!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 28, 2014 14:06:04 GMT
Set up perfectly for Buttler, drop the hammer, get them in tonight.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 28, 2014 14:08:55 GMT
On his day, the way Buttler carves the ball through the covers is unlike anyone I've ever seen before, unbelievable raw talent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:13:00 GMT
Bell always scores a century when someone ahead of him gets one first! What rubbish .....so he's done that 20 times has he ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:15:34 GMT
On his day, the way Buttler carves the ball through the covers is unlike anyone I've ever seen before, unbelievable raw talent. Remarkably fast hand movement on the handle mate that's the reason
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 28, 2014 14:18:22 GMT
Agree it is a batsmans wicket at present. But it does beggar the question that should we have scored more runs yesterday? It's not unusual for an opening team to score 300+ on day 1 with a wicket like this one. Hoping the wicket cuts up a bit and we can have an Indian opener or two back in the pavillions before stumps this evening.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 28, 2014 14:20:07 GMT
On his day, the way Buttler carves the ball through the covers is unlike anyone I've ever seen before, unbelievable raw talent. Remarkably fast hand movement on the handle mate that's the reason Gah I spoke too soon EDIT: Apparently not!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:26:56 GMT
Agree it is a batsmans wicket at present. But it does beggar the question that should we have scored more runs yesterday? It's not unusual for an opening team to score 300+ on day 1 with a wicket like this one. Hoping the wicket cuts up a bit and we can have an Indian opener or two back in the pavillions before stumps this evening. It was a little slow , but the important thing was to get a good platform for a big score ,which is what they did , good position for England .
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 28, 2014 14:35:06 GMT
Agree it is a batsmans wicket at present. But it does beggar the question that should we have scored more runs yesterday? It's not unusual for an opening team to score 300+ on day 1 with a wicket like this one. Hoping the wicket cuts up a bit and we can have an Indian opener or two back in the pavillions before stumps this evening. It was a little slow , but the important thing was to get a good platform for a big score ,which is what they did , good position for England . I agree, we've added 200 runs today already so I think it evens out, seriously strong position here, hard coming out facing the new ball being some 300 runs away from a follow on target at least.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 28, 2014 14:38:42 GMT
Bell always scores a century when someone ahead of him gets one first! What rubbish .....so he's done that 20 times has he ? About 15 times yes. Before last summers summers he was only ever getting easy runs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:39:36 GMT
It was a little slow , but the important thing was to get a good platform for a big score ,which is what they did , good position for England . I agree, we've added 200 runs today already so I think it evens out, seriously strong position here, hard coming out facing the new ball being some 300 runs away from a follow on target at least. Yes indeed , I think the modern term for it is " score board pressure " .....it must always be a little daunting replying to a score of 500 plus , there is always a chance of a couple of early nicks ,even on a good pitch
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:40:49 GMT
What rubbish .....so he's done that 20 times has he ? About 15 times yes. Before last summers summers he was only ever getting easy runs. 7,000 easy runs ! ......
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 28, 2014 14:43:35 GMT
Hes the most pleasing to watch, but not the guy you want down in the trenches.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:53:06 GMT
Anybody that has played a hundred Tests scoring that amount of runs at an average on nearly 45.00 can not be considered. " feint hearted " , you just don't accumulate that amount of "easy " runs or centuries if you don't have some bottle about you .....he's fine in the trenches for me
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