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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 9:17:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 10:01:15 GMT
Im bothered that the government I vote for can't govern.....they can only take orders from a group of people who have never been democratically voted for by the public Each day, wee,k month and year that passes, a little bit more is handed to them on a plate by gutless greedy politicians who only have their personal career in mind UKIP is not against Europeans having British jobs it's against ridiculous open boarders with no control Last time I checked amongst other things the Uk government is in charge of setting fiscal policy, including interest rates, tax and it also sets it's own budgets etc etc.So tell me how the EU is in control of this country then ignoring bullshit like defining what can be a cornish pasty and what can't ? Despite this 75% of laws being set in the EU guff the only thing you ever really hear about is immigration. Fine UKIP wants to bring in border controls - how are they going to fund this and also what's their plan if spain, portugal and others says fuck you have several million expats back ? These are genuine questions not me taking the piss that I've never heard UKIP deal with. Equally why is all this focus on immigration, the demands on any service are many times more from local people, there's a serious debate to be had about the funding and supply of state services but trying to blame it on immigration is rubbish. There is far more to it than that as you know Without going into a massive endless debate on which laws affect us directly / indirectly etc More and more is handed over to Brussels by the day...this is common knowledge This is where they are heading...... ...The EU are actively seeking a United States of Europe. ..This is common knowledge. Mr Cameron has stated loud and clear that "he wants more Europe, not less".... This is common knowledge. The liberal democrats would have us fully in and using the euro if it was left to them.....this is common knowledge. Labour are all for more Europe and would sell the British public tomorrow for a seat at the top table All this points to all laws being made by Brussels
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 11:33:13 GMT
No one is after my job..... I don't have one.
The biggest reason for that is 50 years of British Government dismantling this country, giving away our Industry, our beliefs, and now even selling our houses to Chinese conglomerates.
Without a shadow of doubt this Country is the laughing stock of the world. Greatest Empire EVER reduced to changing our own laws and beliefs in a quite frankly prostitutional way to get their money in our banks.
I walk the streets and I'm ashamed of where I live it's a lawless, dirty, dump.
We have sold our Identity like a cheap whore.
Talking of racism who has done more damage to our country than the Americans with Fast (FAT) food chains on every street corner causing mass obesity.
We need a fresh start Conservatives have crucified the poor of this country for years Labour has completely failed it's followers, UKIP may not be the answer but if it rocks the corrupt foundations of British politics then it is a start hopefully a beginning back to a country that looks after it's own people not sells them to a job agency to compete with europe's down and outs.
50 years of watching our City go from being Renown throughout the world to becoming a slum. All it needs is the courage and the honesty to stand up and say we have had enough.
Someone needs to persuade Peter Coates to become Council Leader it needs someone of his stature to rescue this City.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 24, 2014 13:08:07 GMT
We'll see who looks amateurish on May 22nd That would be you if you don't realise the results aren't announced until May 25th
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 24, 2014 13:25:35 GMT
Last time I checked amongst other things the Uk government is in charge of setting fiscal policy, including interest rates, tax and it also sets it's own budgets etc etc.So tell me how the EU is in control of this country then ignoring bullshit like defining what can be a cornish pasty and what can't ? Despite this 75% of laws being set in the EU guff the only thing you ever really hear about is immigration. Fine UKIP wants to bring in border controls - how are they going to fund this and also what's their plan if spain, portugal and others says fuck you have several million expats back ? These are genuine questions not me taking the piss that I've never heard UKIP deal with. Equally why is all this focus on immigration, the demands on any service are many times more from local people, there's a serious debate to be had about the funding and supply of state services but trying to blame it on immigration is rubbish. There is far more to it than that as you know Without going into a massive endless debate on which laws affect us directly / indirectly etc More and more is handed over to Brussels by the day...this is common knowledge This is where they are heading...... ...The EU are actively seeking a United States of Europe. ..This is common knowledge. Mr Cameron has stated loud and clear that "he wants more Europe, not less".... This is common knowledge. The liberal democrats would have us fully in and using the euro if it was left to them.....this is common knowledge. Labour are all for more Europe and would sell the British public tomorrow for a seat at the top table All this points to all laws being made by Brussels Has there been any debate on which laws affect the UK directly/ indirectly It's a bit of a cop out to just ignore this 75% of laws made in brussels you must be able to come up with a top 5 that has changed the UK forever The EU effectively has a united states of europe and has had since introducing the single currency, the UK choose not to join now bearing in mind brussles sets 75% of the laws you'd think if they actually ruling theUK as you say they'd have forced this one through rather than all the cornish pasty type nonsense. I think Cameron has argued for a less bureacratic europe and actually more along the line of they want a better europe not more europe see below -although personally having seen them the other weekend I have absolutely nothing against Europe myself www.gov.uk/government/speeches/david-cameron-and-matteo-renzi-press-conferenceLiberal democrats who cares what they want it's as relevant and as likely to happen as what the greens, ukip want As for Labour another 12 months of the economy improving and what they want will be irrelevent too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 14:17:52 GMT
David Cameron says there must be reform David Cameron says he wants more Europe for Britain David Cameron gave a cast iron guarantee on a referendum David Cameron tells Europe one thing and the British public something else David Cameron loves to do the Hokey Cokey He puts his left leg in.....his left leg out.....in out... in out ....and shakes it all about I'm not voting that liar in ever again Give us a shout when he's gone Shouldn't be too long now
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 25, 2014 6:02:17 GMT
David Cameron says there must be reform David Cameron says he wants more Europe for Britain David Cameron gave a cast iron guarantee on a referendum David Cameron tells Europe one thing and the British public something else David Cameron loves to do the Hokey Cokey He puts his left leg in.....his left leg out.....in out... in out ....and shakes it all about I'm not voting that liar in ever again Give us a shout when he's gone Shouldn't be too long now He'll be here till the next election if he loses it'll be Boris in charge. So you don't like Cameron in your eyes saying one thing and doing another but have no problem Nige doing it. No sign of this top 5 laws that changed british life forever, would just top 3 make it easier ? Surely with 75% of our law being made by the EU, UKIP will be binning all these laws and bringing some new ones in ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 6:39:06 GMT
David Cameron says there must be reform David Cameron says he wants more Europe for Britain David Cameron gave a cast iron guarantee on a referendum David Cameron tells Europe one thing and the British public something else David Cameron loves to do the Hokey Cokey He puts his left leg in.....his left leg out.....in out... in out ....and shakes it all about I'm not voting that liar in ever again Give us a shout when he's gone Shouldn't be too long now He'll be here till the next election if he loses it'll be Boris in charge. So you don't like Cameron in your eyes saying one thing and doing another but have no problem Nige doing it. No sign of this top 5 laws that changed british life forever, would just top 3 make it easier ? Surely with 75% of our law being made by the EU, UKIP will be binning all these laws and bringing some new ones in ? There's only ONE thing I'm voting ukip on and that's for us to govern ourselves And on that point farage is the only man to trust Hokey Cokey Dave can fuck right off I've said this a lot but I'll say it again......there's things I don't agree with ukip on But the important one for me is we need to get back to running our own country, trading with Europe not political marriage and trade with the rest of the world I've always voted Tory .....then Cameron fucked it up with deceit, lies and u turns just like new labour No fucker believes the cunt....Regardless of ukip he's fucked the Tories good and proper Once this country is in control of its own destiny maybe the other parties will be worth a vote because at the minute they are sending us all in the same direction...closer European ties...albeit at different speeds
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 25, 2014 7:11:59 GMT
He'll be here till the next election if he loses it'll be Boris in charge. So you don't like Cameron in your eyes saying one thing and doing another but have no problem Nige doing it. No sign of this top 5 laws that changed british life forever, would just top 3 make it easier ? Surely with 75% of our law being made by the EU, UKIP will be binning all these laws and bringing some new ones in ? There's only ONE thing I'm voting ukip on and that's for us to govern ourselves And on that point farage is the only man to trust Hokey Cokey Dave can fuck right off I've said this a lot but I'll say it again......there's things I don't agree with ukip on But the important one for me is we need to get back to running our own country, trading with Europe not political marriage and trade with the rest of the world I've always voted Tory .....then Cameron fucked it up with deceit, lies and u turns just like new labour No fucker believes the cunt....Regardless of ukip he's fucked the Tories good and proper Once this country is in control of its own destiny maybe the other parties will be worth a vote because at the minute they are sending us all in the same direction...closer European ties...albeit at different speeds FYD has asked a very reasonable question about 75% of laws being made in Europe, and it's been used all over place. As you know, I'm a "less Europe" bloke, but I've seen plenty of good laws come through that would not have come in to force in an "Independent UK", such as tech company monopolies and most recently, single phone charger design standards. What are the "big laws" that have been dropped on us from high? By the way, I get the creeping control argument.
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Post by Northy on Apr 25, 2014 7:28:35 GMT
These laws I see in my job are more of guidelines that are passed to the governments to implement in their own ways and come out as British Standards, which we already had,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 8:00:21 GMT
There's only ONE thing I'm voting ukip on and that's for us to govern ourselves And on that point farage is the only man to trust Hokey Cokey Dave can fuck right off I've said this a lot but I'll say it again......there's things I don't agree with ukip on But the important one for me is we need to get back to running our own country, trading with Europe not political marriage and trade with the rest of the world I've always voted Tory .....then Cameron fucked it up with deceit, lies and u turns just like new labour No fucker believes the cunt....Regardless of ukip he's fucked the Tories good and proper Once this country is in control of its own destiny maybe the other parties will be worth a vote because at the minute they are sending us all in the same direction...closer European ties...albeit at different speeds FYD has asked a very reasonable question about 75% of laws being made in Europe, and it's been used all over place. As you know, I'm a "less Europe" bloke, but I've seen plenty of good laws come through that would not have come in to force in an "Independent UK", such as tech company monopolies and most recently, single phone charger design standards. What are the "big laws" that have been dropped on us from high? By the way, I get the creeping control argument. I chose not to answer it for a few reasons Rich The main one because I know where he's leading it and this will just go like all the left v right argument threads, going on and on for months with no outcome For every negative law / directive I come out with there's an argument for positive because one law has a knock on effect on us in so many different ways Suffice to say, I believe ...good or bad, we should be living by our rules There are eu laws that may look good for the public but bad for the uk on the whole and vice versa There has to be balance but, most of all we need these laws (good or bad, whatever your personal thoughts) made by uk elected government, elected by The people of Britain That can be unelected Not by personnel from Brussels Germany Spain etc who were not democratically voted for by the people of europe
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 25, 2014 8:14:29 GMT
FYD has asked a very reasonable question about 75% of laws being made in Europe, and it's been used all over place. As you know, I'm a "less Europe" bloke, but I've seen plenty of good laws come through that would not have come in to force in an "Independent UK", such as tech company monopolies and most recently, single phone charger design standards. What are the "big laws" that have been dropped on us from high? By the way, I get the creeping control argument. I chose not to answer it for a few reasons Rich The main one because I know where he's leading it and this will just go like all the left v right argument threads, going on and on for months with no outcome For every negative law / directive I come out with there's an argument for positive because one law has a knock on effect on us in so many different ways Suffice to say, I believe ...good or bad, we should be living by our rules There are eu laws that may look good for the public but bad for the uk on the whole and vice versa There has to be balance but, most of all we need these laws (good or bad, whatever your personal thoughts) made by uk elected government, elected by The people of Britain That can be unelected Not by personnel from Brussels Germany Spain etc who were not democratically voted for by the people of europe I'm prepared to let you off the hook this time...
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 25, 2014 13:31:08 GMT
FYD has asked a very reasonable question about 75% of laws being made in Europe, and it's been used all over place. As you know, I'm a "less Europe" bloke, but I've seen plenty of good laws come through that would not have come in to force in an "Independent UK", such as tech company monopolies and most recently, single phone charger design standards. What are the "big laws" that have been dropped on us from high? By the way, I get the creeping control argument. I chose not to answer it for a few reasons Rich The main one because I know where he's leading it and this will just go like all the left v right argument threads, going on and on for months with no outcome For every negative law / directive I come out with there's an argument for positive because one law has a knock on effect on us in so many different ways Suffice to say, I believe ...good or bad, we should be living by our rules There are eu laws that may look good for the public but bad for the uk on the whole and vice versa There has to be balance but, most of all we need these laws (good or bad, whatever your personal thoughts) made by uk elected government, elected by The people of Britain That can be unelected Not by personnel from Brussels Germany Spain etc who were not democratically voted for by the people of europe Or maybe "he" was just asking a genuine question, I think you severly overestimate the interest I have in UKIP and Europe to think this would have continued for months, just don't have the time I've got two contracts on the go at the moment can't turn work down when there's 26m people after your job
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