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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 9, 2014 20:51:30 GMT
"Our problems lies in the fact we play on the edge of our own penalty are for 70 minutes hoping that random hoofs upfield might get lucky.."  NEVER! They haven't sorted out the terminology properly, have they? The ignorant twats need to be told, that is called waiting for some apples to drop!! |
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Mar 9, 2014 21:08:40 GMT
Seems Palace fans expect more steak but egg and chips is what is coming.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 9, 2014 21:19:22 GMT
I was really pleased when Pulis got the sack but damn do I still respect the guy. Just because we don't like him doesn't mean we don't respect him. I wish him all the best apart from when its at the expense of Stoke. Respect is earned and he certainly earned it, as you say you can respect someone and dislike them it is nigh on impossible to be respected and liked by everybody, he did a lot of good for the club but at same time did a lot of damage long term, some will appreciate that some will not. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 9, 2014 21:22:32 GMT
Seems Palace fans expect more steak but egg and chips is what is coming. Just imagine the uproar after spending the best part of £100million they are served up cold gruel with a side order of mouldy bread every week. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 9, 2014 22:00:31 GMT
He guessed correctly - I did mean the FA cup  I am aware of the 2 league cup finals we have competed in, and the autoglass/auto windscreen wins, and the Watney cup win in 1973 for that matter Just googled them did you? H  No - I have the honours list tattooed on my Penis, like all true stokies should do, width ways of course. |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Mar 9, 2014 23:04:59 GMT
Just googled them did you? H No - I have the honours list tattooed on my Penis, like all true stokies should do, width ways of course. Also, probably would have only just fitted on if you'd done it length ways? |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 10, 2014 9:24:46 GMT
I was really pleased when Pulis got the sack but damn do I still respect the guy. Just because we don't like him doesn't mean we don't respect him. I wish him all the best apart from when its at the expense of Stoke. Respect is earned and he certainly earned it, as you say you can respect someone and dislike them it is nigh on impossible to be respected and liked by everybody, he did a lot of good for the club but at same time did a lot of damage long term, some will appreciate that some will not. Go on then, list this terrible damage he has done to the club.  |
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Post by fca47 on Mar 10, 2014 9:36:34 GMT
See the Pulis haters are having their weekly outpouring of bile. Saddos.
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Post by RAF on Mar 10, 2014 11:32:04 GMT
Just googled them did you? H No - I have the honours list tattooed on my Penis, like all true stokies should do, width ways of course. Well that's ok then. H |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 11:33:08 GMT
Respect is earned and he certainly earned it, as you say you can respect someone and dislike them it is nigh on impossible to be respected and liked by everybody, he did a lot of good for the club but at same time did a lot of damage long term, some will appreciate that some will not. Go on then, list this terrible damage he has done to the club. How much debt have the club announced ?, ageing players on long term contracts with little or no re sale value, players with suspect DNA, players not good enough on long term contracts and the short term (fingers crossed) tightening of the purse strings by the Coates family need anymore do you, Hughes has been left a dud hand barring about five players who are consistently up to the job surely after £100 million investment in players we should have more than that. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 10, 2014 11:38:08 GMT
Go on then, list this terrible damage he has done to the club. How much debt have the club announced ?, ageing players on long term contracts with little or no re sale value, players with suspect DNA, players not good enough on long term contracts and the short term (fingers crossed) tightening of the purse strings by the Coates family need anymore do you, Hughes has been left a dud hand barring about five players who are consistently up to the job surely after £100 million investment in players we should have more than that.  Any manager that was in charge and fighting to keeps us up would have spent a lot of money. The players such as Crouch have paid for themselves many times over by helping to keep us in the Prem. If we didn't spend then we would have been down. I am not saying all of Mr Pulis' signings were good but there were more good than bad. Shawcross and Bego alone would fetch a tidy sum if they left. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 11:59:01 GMT
How much debt have the club announced ?, ageing players on long term contracts with little or no re sale value, players with suspect DNA, players not good enough on long term contracts and the short term (fingers crossed) tightening of the purse strings by the Coates family need anymore do you, Hughes has been left a dud hand barring about five players who are consistently up to the job surely after £100 million investment in players we should have more than that. Any manager that was in charge and fighting to keeps us up would have spent a lot of money. The players such as Crouch have paid for themselves many times over by helping to keep us in the Prem. If we didn't spend then we would have been down. I am not saying all of Mr Pulis' signings were good but there were more good than bad. Shawcross and Bego alone would fetch a tidy sum if they left. Ok name the good ones. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 12:02:08 GMT
How much debt have the club announced ?, ageing players on long term contracts with little or no re sale value, players with suspect DNA, players not good enough on long term contracts and the short term (fingers crossed) tightening of the purse strings by the Coates family need anymore do you, Hughes has been left a dud hand barring about five players who are consistently up to the job surely after £100 million investment in players we should have more than that. Any manager that was in charge and fighting to keeps us up would have spent a lot of money. The players such as Crouch have paid for themselves many times over by helping to keep us in the Prem. If we didn't spend then we would have been down. I am not saying all of Mr Pulis' signings were good but there were more good than bad. Shawcross and Bego alone would fetch a tidy sum if they left. Any manager that was in charge and fighting to keeps us up would have spent a lot of money----a bit like Mark Hughes you mean? If we didn't spend we would have been down---a bit like Mark Hughes you mean? Pulis did a good job but it was short termism at it's very best. Clubs like ours need a sustainable youth policy and a scouting system that identifies younger talent from other clubs, buys them and sells them on for a big profit, a great example being Southampton, Beggers and Ryan are good examples but they are few and far between. As for the youth policy well we all know what Tone thinks of that. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 10, 2014 12:11:48 GMT
Any manager that was in charge and fighting to keeps us up would have spent a lot of money. The players such as Crouch have paid for themselves many times over by helping to keep us in the Prem. If we didn't spend then we would have been down. I am not saying all of Mr Pulis' signings were good but there were more good than bad. Shawcross and Bego alone would fetch a tidy sum if they left. Ok name the good ones. Shawcross Huth Bego Etherington Pennant Nzonzi Butland Crouch These are just off the top of the head and I am sure there are many more. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 12:23:19 GMT
Shawcross Signed before Premiership Huth Agree Bego Agree Etherington Agree Pennant Wrong DNA Nzonzi Wrong DNA Butland Jury still out Crouch Expensive luxury. These are just off the top of the head and I am sure there are many more. I would agree with three signed to keep us in the Prem, now lets see who you think were bad buys. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 12:30:33 GMT
He's done a brilliant job to be fair.
If they're genuinely unhappy Pulis should ask his good friend Ian to take back the reins and see how they like that shit.
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 10, 2014 12:51:58 GMT
Shawcross Huth Bego Etherington Pennant Nzonzi Butland Crouch These are just off the top of the head and I am sure there are many more. Add James Beattie onto that list - because his and Etherington's signings in the January transfer window of our first seaon in the Premier League were, IMO, among the very best signings our club has ever made. Pulis therefore like all managers had a mixed record in the transfer market. To suggest otherwise is just stupid. My sole issue with Pulis on transfers is who he didn't sign; a left back is the obvious one, but more importantly wide attacking players to replace an ageing Etherington and an increasingly ineffective Pennant. Considering how important attacking down the flanks was to his game plan, this was an extraordinary failure on Pulis's part. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 10, 2014 12:59:45 GMT
Shawcross Huth Bego Etherington Pennant Nzonzi Butland Crouch These are just off the top of the head and I am sure there are many more. Add James Beattie onto that list - because his and Etherington's signings in the January transfer window of our first seaon in the Premier League were, IMO, among the very best signings our club has ever made. Pulis therefore like all managers had a mixed record in the transfer market. To suggest otherwise is just stupid. My sole issue with Pulis on transfers is who he didn't sign; a left back is the obvious one, but more importantly wide attacking players to replace an ageing Etherington and an increasingly ineffective Pennant. Considering how important attacking down the flanks was to his game plan, this was an extraordinary failure on Pulis's part. I fully agree with that mate. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 13:13:17 GMT
Add James Beattie onto that list - because his and Etherington's signings in the January transfer window of our first seaon in the Premier League were, IMO, among the very best signings our club has ever made. Pulis therefore like all managers had a mixed record in the transfer market. To suggest otherwise is just stupid. My sole issue with Pulis on transfers is who he didn't sign; a left back is the obvious one, but more importantly wide attacking players to replace an ageing Etherington and an increasingly ineffective Pennant. Considering how important attacking down the flanks was to his game plan, this was an extraordinary failure on Pulis's part. I fully agree with that mate. Off the top of my head some bad buys: Palacios Kitson Tuncay Soares Arismendi Collins Olifanjana Tongue Kightly Ness Edu Shea There are others. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 13:14:55 GMT
Shawcross Huth Bego Etherington Pennant Nzonzi Butland Crouch These are just off the top of the head and I am sure there are many more. Add James Beattie onto that list - because his and Etherington's signings in the January transfer window of our first seaon in the Premier League were, IMO, among the very best signings our club has ever made. Pulis therefore like all managers had a mixed record in the transfer market. To suggest otherwise is just stupid. My sole issue with Pulis on transfers is who he didn't sign; a left back is the obvious one, but more importantly wide attacking players to replace an ageing Etherington and an increasingly ineffective Pennant. Considering how important attacking down the flanks was to his game plan, this was an extraordinary failure on Pulis's part. Ab Faye fantastic for one season. |
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 10, 2014 13:22:02 GMT
All managers make good and bad buys.
It's the short termism approach that grinds.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 13:28:23 GMT
Shawcross Huth Bego Etherington Pennant Nzonzi Butland Crouch These are just off the top of the head and I am sure there are many more. Michael Owen Eidur Gudjohnson John Carew Cameron Jerome Andrew Davies |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 13:32:06 GMT
All managers make good and bad buys. It's the short termism approach that grinds. Pulis made a lot of bad buys for a lot of money, we recouped very little on the mistakes he made. |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 10, 2014 14:02:43 GMT
How much debt have the club announced ?, ageing players on long term contracts with little or no re sale value, players with suspect DNA, players not good enough on long term contracts and the short term (fingers crossed) tightening of the purse strings by the Coates family need anymore do you, Hughes has been left a dud hand barring about five players who are consistently up to the job surely after £100 million investment in players we should have more than that. Any manager that was in charge and fighting to keeps us up would have spent a lot of money. The players such as Crouch have paid for themselves many times over by helping to keep us in the Prem. If we didn't spend then we would have been down. I am not saying all of Mr Pulis' signings were good but there were more good than bad. Shawcross and Bego alone would fetch a tidy sum if they left. Have you dropped Denise and Peter a line they seem to be under the impression they're £30m+ down, they'll only be too delighted to hear from you that all these signings have in fact paid for themselves many times  |
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Mar 10, 2014 14:08:44 GMT
They seem to have got worse since he brought some of his own players in. Good point |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 14:15:40 GMT
See the Pulis haters are having their weekly outpouring of bile. Saddos. Now one can see why the mods have kept it from the shit bin. Winkythingy. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 14:25:21 GMT
See the Pulis haters are having their weekly outpouring of bile. Saddos. Now one can see why the mods have kept it from the shit bin. Winkythingy. The one being you. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 10, 2014 14:36:18 GMT
Any manager that was in charge and fighting to keeps us up would have spent a lot of money. The players such as Crouch have paid for themselves many times over by helping to keep us in the Prem. If we didn't spend then we would have been down. I am not saying all of Mr Pulis' signings were good but there were more good than bad. Shawcross and Bego alone would fetch a tidy sum if they left. Have you dropped Denise and Peter a line they seem to be under the impression they're £30m+ down, they'll only be too delighted to hear from you that all these signings have in fact paid for themselves many times But that's a bit of a narrow view of the 'return on investment'. A top grade Academy, the ground and infrastructure, the potential for another year with TV money coming in, the worldwide marketing and merchandising for the Club, and in terms of player assets, then there's the player of the season candidates: Bego, Ryan, Adam, Whelan, Cameron, N'Zonzi.. for starters, and everyone is clamouring for a Huth return. Of course there have been fuck ups and a prioritisation of the 'short term', but that's always the way when you're part of the Premiership 'also-rans'. It's such an unforgiving environment, and given that managers rarely stay in their job for more than two years, the long term approach is an exception. Only Southampton and Aston Villa, {perhaps Arsenal to an extent} follow such a path at the moment, even the traditional footballing academy of West Ham has spent huge on off-the-peggers. You can't unwish what has passed so I'd prefer to look forward at what the new direction will achieve. We're looking healthy and have a strong platform to move on, despite the reported £30m loss, I don't think at the end of the day Peter and Denise will have lost a penny from their involvement in Stoke. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2014 14:41:30 GMT
Have you dropped Denise and Peter a line they seem to be under the impression they're £30m+ down, they'll only be too delighted to hear from you that all these signings have in fact paid for themselves many times But that's a bit of a narrow view of the 'return on investment'. A top grade Academy, the ground and infrastructure, the potential for another year with TV money coming in, the worldwide marketing and merchandising for the Club, and in terms of player assets, then there's the player of the season candidates: Bego, Ryan, Adam, Whelan, Cameron, N'Zonzi.. for starters, and everyone is clamouring for a Huth return. Of course there have been fuck ups and a prioritisation of the 'short term', but that's always the way when you're part of the Premiership 'also-rans'. It's such an unforgiving environment, and given that managers rarely stay in their job for more than two years, the long term approach is an exception. Only Southampton and Aston Villa, {perhaps Arsenal to an extent} follow such a path at the moment, even the traditional footballing academy of West Ham has spent huge on off-the-peggers. You can't unwish what has passed so I'd prefer to look forward at what the new direction will achieve. We're looking healthy and have a strong platform to move on, despite the reported £30m loss, I don't think at the end of the day Peter and Denise will have lost a penny from their involvement in Stoke. A top grade academy that has produced ?, a transfer team that is probably the worst in the league a £30miilion debt a paper thin squad on top of possibly been relegated yes all is good. |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Mar 10, 2014 14:53:47 GMT
You are right, you are guessing. H He guessed correctly - I did mean the FA cup I am aware of the 2 league cup finals we have competed in, and the autoglass/auto windscreen wins, and the Watney cup win in 1973 for that matter If you meant the FA Cup, why didn't you just say so?.. |
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