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Mar 7, 2014 8:52:31 GMT
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 7, 2014 8:52:31 GMT
King Kurt did play Shelley's a few times, I saw them their mid-eighties & they played Keele Uni too..not long after Gary Glitters Xmas Ball !!
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 7, 2014 10:03:47 GMT
Pogues a few times - ironically probably the best was when Spider Stacey did lead vocals. Phil Chevron died recently which had me welling up. Every time i saw New Order, as dodgy as Barney could be something magical happens when they play live. Oasis in the Charlotte in Leicester the day they released their first single.....not a big fan these days but the buzz that night was amazing. Teenage Fanclub...Nottingham. Jingly jangly heaven. Other favourable mentions for Boo Radleys, Charlatans, Lemonheads, Primal Scream and more that will hopefully come back to my creaking memory!!!! Yes other folks' recollections have reminded me of some cracking gigging. Agree re the Barney observations. I used to buy New Order gig bootleg tapes, there was only one that was any good 'Live at the Tolworth leisure Centre', {through the mixing desk'Power, Corruption & Lies' tour. That gig attained an almost mythical status. The majority were recorded on a Dictaphone with someone chatting while Barney strained over a sloppy racket in the background. But those gigs had a great buzz, James, Happy Monday's in support, kids dressed like the Hitler Youth {irrespective of ethnicity/politics}. Leadbelly's was like a mini Hacienda. Full to the brim with casuals and suited miserabilists. The Pogues were ace, I've seen that beer tray vs head nonsense cause carnage. I walked into the Good Mixer in Camden as Mr McGowan was leaving. {a bit of a stagger, not too bad}. If I'd been an hour earlier, an 'in the boozer with Shane McGowan' moment would have sorted the dinner party convo. for years... Jem Finer did some great shows at the Old Brown Jug about a decade ago. Cheesefreex - the Oatcakes very own John Peel (without the dodgy allegations!!!) I'm in awe of your gigging experience and musical knowledge. PS Cassette bootlegs.......ahhhhhhh......brings back memories of trying to wind a chewed up tape back into the cassette while listening to Radio Stoke on a wet Tuesday night waiting for the intermittent updates from Brisbane Road in the vain hope that we might nick a win. |
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Post by mozalini on Mar 7, 2014 10:18:54 GMT
Morrissey at London Palladium
Stone Roses at Finsbury Park
Oasis at Wembley
The Cure at Reading
Madness at Reading
Pulp at Sheffield Arena
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 7, 2014 14:27:45 GMT
Iglugluk, just noticed the Adrian Sherwood reference. Creation Rebel and New Age Steppers was a favourite album. On the subject of the convoy. Used to really like. Here and Now Forgot about Here and Now tbh, good stuff!!...............saw them back in the day, in fact, I just looked on youtube and saw a video of them playing at the '84 Stonehenge Festival and it really brought back memories for me. That was not a particularly good year for that festival, as I remember, and the Battle of the Beanfield happened a year later to end the free festival there forever more, unfortunately. Saw some very good "leftfield" stuff during the'80's...........including Ornette Coleman and Prime Time, Last Exit ( Ronald Shannon Jackson, Peter Brotzman, Bill Laswell and Sonny Sharrock )...the heaviest free jazz band I ever heard ,gigs were like a rocket taking off, The Decoding Society, Power Tools, James Blood Ulmer, George Adams ( great saxophone player sadly no longer with us ), Han bennink and Misha Mengelberg Duo, Evan Parker, Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers, Sonny Rollins, Pharoah Sanders + others ....all the way to more "commercial" stuff such as Fishbone, Prince, Living Color, Bob Marley,The Beat, Toots and the Maytals....... There was some very good music around ( ...if you knew where to look anyway   ). |
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 7, 2014 14:44:06 GMT
Don't know enough of the Sun Ra canon Ig, it's one with a blue cover and yellow writing that I picked up in a Charity shop tahat I like.  I find a lot of his stuff a bit impenetrable. That New Thing! compilation is really good,. Archie Shepp, Alice Coltrane, Art Ensemble's 'Funky Aeco' is awesome. Big fan of some of the On-U stuff. Gary Clail and that football chant 'Barmy Army' project were good. {A bit dated now.} I deleted the AHC vid because it wasn't the tune I was thunking of, twas Prince Far I {who I havn't seen} that I've been dub stepping to: I tend to have a great love of impenetrable free jazz in all its' glorious forms.........strangely enough ( synchronicity 'an all that ) I have the same album ( blue cover yellow writing ) and not only that connection but the link you've put up "...joyful noise" connect directly to Sun Ra himself..............story goes that his neighbours made a noise complaint against him ( him and the Arkestra all lived together in a commune ) and when the Police turned to tell him that they was disturbing the neighbourhood by making a noise he stated the it was not just a noise it was a "joyful noise".. and then carried on with his lifetimes work undeterred. Got some great Dubwise from the '80's too , particularly like this album by Coxsone Dodd |
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 7, 2014 19:42:30 GMT
Don't know enough of the Sun Ra canon Ig, it's one with a blue cover and yellow writing that I picked up in a Charity shop tahat I like. I find a lot of his stuff a bit impenetrable. That New Thing! compilation is really good,. Archie Shepp, Alice Coltrane, Art Ensemble's 'Funky Aeco' is awesome. Big fan of some of the On-U stuff. Gary Clail and that football chant 'Barmy Army' project were good. {A bit dated now.} I deleted the AHC vid because it wasn't the tune I was thunking of, twas Prince Far I {who I havn't seen} that I've been dub stepping to: I tend to have a great love of impenetrable free jazz in all its' glorious forms.........strangely enough ( synchronicity 'an all that ) I have the same album ( blue cover yellow writing ) and not only that connection but the link you've put up "...joyful noise" connects directly to Sun Ra himself..............story goes that his neighbours made a noise complaint against him ( him and the Arkestra all lived together in a commune ) and when the Police turned to tell him that they were disturbing the neighbourhood by making a noise he stated the it was not just a noise it was a "joyful noise".. and then carried on with his lifetimes work undeterred. Got some great Dubwise from the '80's too , particularly like this album by Coxsone Dodd |
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Mar 7, 2014 19:57:20 GMT
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Post by EccyStokie on Mar 7, 2014 19:57:20 GMT
Oasis- Heaton park
Stone roses- Heaton park
The music- Leeds
The music- Keele
Kasabian- Majorca rocks
Arctic monkeys- civic hall Wolverhampton
Noel Gallagher- Munich
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Post by albertcamel on Mar 7, 2014 20:22:24 GMT
Gong are great, when Daevid Allen last played the Talbot, he set up a tent inside the garage, a kind of pre-gig 'green room'. [/quote] Would have loved to seen that Gig. Used to be into Gong. I did see Steve Hillage years ago at the Vic. On the thread of Daevid Allen, I am a big fan of early Soft Machine. I think the Vol 1 and 2 albums really stand the test of time. For me Robert Wyatt is a genius. Matching Mole first album also a favourite |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 7, 2014 20:33:27 GMT
Enough prevarication. I'm off up the Foxlowe in Leek toneet to see five local bands strut their stuff.
Main reason being the inspiration to get in amongst it provided by this thread, and local band Moscow, who sound a bit like Department S to me.
I won't be wearing the sheepskin coat. Is Vic there?
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Post by albertcamel on Mar 7, 2014 21:16:09 GMT
Don't know enough of the Sun Ra canon Ig, it's one with a blue cover and yellow writing that I picked up in a Charity shop tahat I like. I find a lot of his stuff a bit impenetrable. That New Thing! compilation is really good,. Archie Shepp, Alice Coltrane, Art Ensemble's 'Funky Aeco' is awesome. Big fan of some of the On-U stuff. Gary Clail and that football chant 'Barmy Army' project were good. {A bit dated now.} I deleted the AHC vid because it wasn't the tune I was thunking of, twas Prince Far I {who I havn't seen} that I've been dub stepping to: I tend to have a great love of impenetrable free jazz in all its' glorious forms... Iglugluk, Does your love of inpenetrable free jazz include Henry Cow? I've got a couple of albums somewhere. Find it a difficult listen nowadays. I like a bit more structure - Coltrane, Parker, Davis, Mingus, Bill Evans, Coleman, Dexter Gorden, Joe Henderson, Lee Morgan etc Also like some of the hip hop jazz fusion like Mark Farina and the Mushroom Jazz. Really liked Gil Scott Heron's Album I'm New Here before he died. Saw Gil Scott a couple of times - Leadmill in Sheffied and Glastonbury 86 |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Mar 7, 2014 23:29:58 GMT
1) The Streets @ Somewhere in Leeds 2) Coldplay/Jay-Z/White Lies @ Old trafford (dons protective headgear) I was at the Coldplay gig. Astonishingly good. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 8, 2014 0:13:13 GMT
Pearls Before Swine?
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 8, 2014 0:46:01 GMT
I tend to have a great love of impenetrable free jazz in all its' glorious forms... Iglugluk, Does your love of inpenetrable free jazz include Henry Cow? I've got a couple of albums somewhere. Find it a difficult listen nowadays. I like a bit more structure - Coltrane, Parker, Davis, Mingus, Bill Evans, Coleman, Dexter Gorden, Joe Henderson, Lee Morgan etc Also like some of the hip hop jazz fusion like Mark Farina and the Mushroom Jazz. Really liked Gil Scott Heron's Album I'm New Here before he died. Saw Gil Scott a couple of times - Leadmill in Sheffied and Glastonbury 86 You've obviously listened to music intensely , the more you delve the more there is to hear I reckon. I don't really define Henry Cow as free jazz, tbh, no more so than Soft Machine, I kind of put these bands to some extent with early Pink Floyd when Syd Barrett was active, sort of quirky English psychedelia with improv..............in reference to English free jazz and its' beginnings Evan Parker, Derek Bailey, Eddie Prevost, Cornelius Cardew are more the sort of musicians I look to. I tend to particularly listen to American Free Jazz, though i.e. Cecil Taylor, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Sun Ra, late John Coletrane ( Interstellar Space with Rashid Ali being a particular favourite ) in the main. That said I also have a great deal of listening time for all the players that you've listed too, there are great musicians and innovators amongst them. The list could go on for quite a while and some I would add to my "straight ahead' list, other than those you've put already, would be Sonny Rollins, Thelonius Monk, Eric Dolphy, Clifford Brown, Horace Silver, Wayne Shorter, Gato Barbieri ( Argentinian, I know, but made his reputation in the states ), Lenny Tristano, Chet Baker, Art Pepper.....etc.. Like yourself I was into Gil Scott Heron too and saw him a couple of times live, the way he was treated in the States was disgraceful, imo and hastened his demise I feel. Thinking of great musical poets I also particularly liked Ian Dury and the Blockheads another band that were great live. Now Parliament/Funkadelic is another area entirely.....  |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 8, 2014 1:24:53 GMT
{way over my head smiley}
If you are watching Foxy, my gigging pedigree pales into insignificance compared to Albert C and the Ig, these feckers have been free jazzing while I've been watching Bogshed.
I'm jealous....
Sonny Rollins, love him, now then.....
Here's my jazz.
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Mar 8, 2014 4:10:35 GMT
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 8, 2014 4:10:35 GMT
Iglugluk, Does your love of inpenetrable free jazz include Henry Cow? I've got a couple of albums somewhere. Find it a difficult listen nowadays. I like a bit more structure - Coltrane, Parker, Davis, Mingus, Bill Evans, Coleman, Dexter Gorden, Joe Henderson, Lee Morgan etc Also like some of the hip hop jazz fusion like Mark Farina and the Mushroom Jazz. Really liked Gil Scott Heron's Album I'm New Here before he died. Saw Gil Scott a couple of times - Leadmill in Sheffied and Glastonbury 86 You've obviously listened to music intensely , the more you delve the more there is to hear I reckon. I don't really define Henry Cow as free jazz, tbh, no more so than Soft Machine, I kind of put these bands to some extent with early Pink Floyd when Syd Barrett was active, sort of quirky English psychedelia with improv..............in reference to English free jazz and its' beginnings Evan Parker, Derek Bailey, Eddie Prevost, Cornelius Cardew are more the sort of musicians I look to. I tend to particularly listen to American Free Jazz, though i.e. Cecil Taylor, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Sun Ra, late John Coletrane ( Interstellar Space with Rashid Ali being a particular favourite ) in the main. I am hardly That said I also have a great deal of listening time for all the players that you've listed too, there are great musicians and innovators amongst them. The list could go on for quite a while and some I would add to my "straight ahead' list, other than those you've put already, would be Sonny Rollins, Thelonius Monk, Eric Dolphy, Clifford Brown, Horace Silver, Wayne Shorter, Gato Barbieri ( Argentinian, I know, but made his reputation in the states ), Lenny Tristano, Chet Baker, Art Pepper.....etc...I'd rater w 23 Like yourself I was into Gil? Scott Heron too and saw him a couple of times live, the way he was treated in the States was disgraceful, imo and hastened the way, I was there, but made his first day back to the head during a bit of a positive fuss about that, 3 his demise I feel. Thinking of great musical poets I also particularly liked Ian Dury and the Blockheads another band that were great live. Now Parliament/Funkadelic is another area entirely..... Nice.... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 4:40:51 GMT
Gary Clail ? Mark Stewart..Adrian Sherwood Tackhead..As The Veneer of Democracy Starts to Fade Remember John Peel playing a lot of that stuff Bloody hell King Kurt 'Destination Zululand' pisser, I'm sure I saw them at Shelley's. Gary Clail- the 'Emotional Hooligan', Was a big fan of Tackhead from 1984's epic "Whats my Mission Now" and also Gary Clail. Saw him play a solo show at the Freetown around the time of his commercial hit "Beef (how low can you go)". Spoke to him and his manager for ages after the gig. The one thing that really struck me about him was that he had these massive, really incredibly blue eyes that really stare at you. A bit freaky to be honest, but a totally sound bloke. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 4:50:48 GMT
Another band I really like were Easterhouse. They made one exceptional album "Contenders". Live they were sensational. Saw them at Rafters in 1986, they walked off stage after three songs. Happy Mondays were supporting and Christ they had a massive following of freaks and grotesques even then...
Easterhouse were possibly the finest band ever to come out of Manchester...high praise indeed. Some of the best lyrics ive ever heard and still sounds 100% to this day. You cant say that for most of The Smiths back cartalogue...
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Mar 8, 2014 23:31:01 GMT
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 8, 2014 23:31:01 GMT
Easterhouse finest band to come out of Manchester ?
Ever heard of The Fall ?
Easterhouse were good..but not that good !!
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 9, 2014 0:19:56 GMT
Easterhouse finest band to come out of Manchester ? Ever heard of The Fall ? Easterhouse were good..but not that good !! I thought that was a tad rash. I'll chuck these in.. .. and then we can discuss the Mondays, Durutti Column, Sub Sub, Badly Drawn Boy, Elbow, 808 State, Biting Tongues, Section 25, The Smiths and indeed the Fall before Easterhouse get a look in. But I don't see music as a competition, so rarely deal in superlatives. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 9, 2014 0:33:29 GMT
... an exception to that rule.
Saw her in Leicester in a theatre at about the same time as the smoking ban.
She had a fag on at the piano, but stopped the gig and asked for a 'hands up' of smokers, she went out to the front few rows and handed out strawberries to them.
Her performance went from brooding melancholy to full bore rock and roll.
Phenomenal.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 12, 2014 11:59:21 GMT
Gong are great, when Daevid Allen last played the Talbot, he set up a tent inside the garage, a kind of pre-gig 'green room'. Would have loved to seen that Gig. Used to be into Gong. I did see Steve Hillage years ago at the Vic. On the thread of Daevid Allen, I am a big fan of early Soft Machine. I think the Vol 1 and 2 albums really stand the test of time. For me Robert Wyatt is a genius. Matching Mole first album also a favourite [/quote] Yes to Soft Machine and Matching Mole, Robert Wyatt is still doing great stuff. 'Schleeep' is an amazing album, still not seen him live {yet.}r There weren't many in to see that last Daevid Allen show, he did a kind of Gong's greatest hits, despite the lack of crowd there was still plenty of 'Neil' dancing going on. .. They Came From the Stars {I Saw Them}, were/are a more recent band fusing the spirit of Sun Ra and Soft Machine into chaotic pop. Saw them a few times, including at the Talbot, the most folk I ever saw on that stage {12}at one time. Alex from the bands solo project: The Vanishing Breed put on some pretty far-out shows too, involving shadow puppetry. Here's just a hint of the 'I Came From the Stars' thang. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 12, 2014 12:16:09 GMT
There was some very good music around ( ...if you knew where to look anyway ). [/quote] I like to think that there is still plenty of interesting stuff to be discovered, perhaps a bit harder to find these days {especially in S-o-T}. And of course with age and experience it becomes more difficult to find something that hasn't already been done, and I find it harder to keep up with what's happening. The Ceramic Hobs {legend has it that you have to have been Sectioned to join the band}, always put on a pretty wild show. The astute will notice the fella 'playing' the dolls head. At the Talbot they had a nurse on stage reciting from a diary. At the Star & Garter in Manc they refused to stop playing until the audience had left! Strange night. God bless the Hobs, if you give them enough notice they'll turn up and play at your house. Not something you'd want necessarily. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 16, 2014 19:50:45 GMT
Saw Discharge at the Underground last Friday... immense.. left with a pogo injury..
They still cut the Punk mustard.
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