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Post by NottsMatt on Jan 4, 2014 20:41:59 GMT
Black people call each other nigger and thats ok but if a white man called a black man a nigger he would be shot... with the above in mind, if the man stating the chant was(is) a paki, then the chant wasnt racist? Stop fuking bitching at each other and get rid of this thread, its utter ballox! Oh and the 'stokies' caling the block 19 lads, shame on you calling your own crowd you boring fuk wits, go back to eating your prawn sarnies!
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 4, 2014 20:42:01 GMT
It doesn't matter how many times the Paki/Aussie point is explained on here (about every week), the people questioning don't actually want to understand why one is acceptable and one isn't....or in some cases are just too fucking thick to understand it.
I've wasted God knows how much time trying to explain this before using crayons and nice easy-to-understand pictures, but no, it doesn't seem to sink in. The conclusion I've come to is that the only contribution I can make to these threads is to save other people the time and effort trying.
Basically, if you can't understand the difference yourself then you're a tit.
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Post by philm87 on Jan 4, 2014 20:42:16 GMT
No I enjoy reading your comments. It is the main reason I click on these threads. Even though I already know what you are going to say... it still makes me chuckle. You don't have to bother replying, particularly as you certainly aren't bothered/interested in these discussions anyway. Haha. The thing I not bothered about is if people agree with me or not. You should save yourself the effort mate, everyone already has a pretty good idea what you think about this. You have told us all enough times now
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 20:43:08 GMT
Ok, ok. On goals on Sunday they had john Carew and John barns. Carew said when he was young barns was one of 2 chocolate players he looked up to. The other was pele. What would have been said if a white person had said it? I am not saying it is wrong just that things are looked at differently depending on who said it even if it is said in the same context. It is things like this that make me think it goes too far.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:44:39 GMT
It doesn't matter how many times the Paki/Aussie point is explained on here (about every week), the people questioning don't actually want to understand why one is acceptable and one isn't....or in some cases are just too fucking thick to understand it. I've wasted God knows how much time trying to explain this before using crayons and nice easy-to-understand pictures, but no, it doesn't seem to sink in. The conclusion I've come to is that the only contribution I can make to these threads is to save other people the time and effort trying. Basically, if you can't understand the difference yourself then you're a tit. What if you can't understand English ....?
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 4, 2014 20:45:16 GMT
Love reading these threads... just not too often. Just read one every few months for a bit of a laugh. Any more than that gets depressing. One thing that ALWAYS happens on these threads is Stafford comes on (always within the first page) with a provocative defence of racism and then declares that 'he doesn't care/isn't bothered'. Almost as if he was just passing by and thought 'Well, I'm not really interested in this subject, but I better comment on this just in case people hadn't read my previous contributions to every single thread on this message board that has ever discussed racism...' I was just about to post something similar!!! Good to see Stafford is still going strong on the "I'm not a racist but..." line.
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Post by cmc89 on Jan 4, 2014 20:46:07 GMT
I get the feeling half the people on this thread are fishing, as they do every time this topic comes up.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Jan 4, 2014 20:46:59 GMT
another racist cun t i see Black people call each other nigger and thats ok but if a white man called a black man a nigger he would be shot... with the above in mind, if the man stating the chant was(is) a paki, then the chant wasnt racist? Stop fuking bitching at each other and get rid of this thread, its utter ballox! Oh and the 'stokies' caling the block 19 lads, shame on you calling your own crowd you boring fuk wits, go back to eating your prawn sarnies!
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 4, 2014 20:47:02 GMT
My problem is that what some call racist, I don't. If I were to go to Africa, and everyone there referred to me as "Whitey", why should I mind? I know that it is the intention behind the words that really matters, but I do, sort of, think that things have gone a bit too far at times. Not to condone REAL racism. I have the same opinion mate but you get called a racist on here for having such thoughts. I am guessing that the chant could have been "your just a town full of p####" If this was the chant is it really that bad? Not saying it's right by the way before someone jumps down my throat. Yes,that was the chant Stafford.
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Post by chattyladypotter on Jan 4, 2014 20:47:56 GMT
Black people call each other nigger and thats ok but if a white man called a black man a nigger he would be shot... with the above in mind, if the man stating the chant was(is) a paki, then the chant wasnt racist? Stop fuking bitching at each other and get rid of this thread, its utter ballox! Oh and the 'stokies' caling the block 19 lads, shame on you calling your own crowd you boring fuk wits, go back to eating your prawn sarnies! Haha made me smile this... isn't calling a group of people 'prawn sarnie brigade' a bit discriminating? ??? Joke... sense of humour alert!! get one if you found this offensive
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jan 4, 2014 20:50:19 GMT
I don't and never will understand why people sing this shit at football. I remember going to filbert street in about 1996 and it was being sung in the streets outside the ground, luton the same season actually as well. What the fuck has it actually got to do with supporting stoke city football club? Also, are there no indian or pakistani people in stoke on trent, genuine question because i don't live there, don't walk the streets?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:50:34 GMT
It doesn't matter how many times the Paki/Aussie point is explained on here (about every week), the people questioning don't actually want to understand why one is acceptable and one isn't....or in some cases are just too fucking thick to understand it. I've wasted God knows how much time trying to explain this before using crayons and nice easy-to-understand pictures, but no, it doesn't seem to sink in. The conclusion I've come to is that the only contribution I can make to these threads is to save other people the time and effort trying. Basically, if you can't understand the difference yourself then you're a tit. Surely calling someone a tit is offensive.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 20:53:05 GMT
I don't and never will understand why people sing this shit at football. I remember going to filbert street in about 1996 and it was being sung in the streets outside the ground, luton the same season actually as well. What the fuck has it actually got to do with supporting stoke city football club? Also, are there no indian or pakistani people in stoke on trent, genuine question because i don't live there, don't walk the streets? Yes there are mate. Shelton is like their own area.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:53:48 GMT
I get the feeling half the people on this thread are fishing, as they do every time this topic comes up. Isn't that what happens on every thread?
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Post by LDE76 on Jan 4, 2014 20:54:41 GMT
Black people call each other nigger and thats ok but if a white man called a black man a nigger he would be shot... with the above in mind, if the man stating the chant was(is) a paki, then the chant wasnt racist? Stop fuking bitching at each other and get rid of this thread, its utter ballox! Oh and the 'stokies' caling the block 19 lads, shame on you calling your own crowd you boring fuk wits, go back to eating your prawn sarnies! Haha made me smile this... isn't calling a group of people 'prawn sarnie brigade' a bit discriminating? ??? Joke... sense of humour alert!! get one if you found this offensive Yeah, but to be fair to him, he has a point. Everyone knows that criticising people who support the same football team as you is far worse than abusing someone based on their racial origin.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jan 4, 2014 20:55:30 GMT
I don't and never will understand why people sing this shit at football. I remember going to filbert street in about 1996 and it was being sung in the streets outside the ground, luton the same season actually as well. What the fuck has it actually got to do with supporting stoke city football club? Also, are there no indian or pakistani people in stoke on trent, genuine question because i don't live there, don't walk the streets? Yes there are mate. Shelton is like their own area. Bit ironic then wouldn't you say? It's not my bag mate all this, the no surrender chant used to make me cringe too, it's a football match not a fucking political rally.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 20:55:46 GMT
Love reading these threads... just not too often. Just read one every few months for a bit of a laugh. Any more than that gets depressing. One thing that ALWAYS happens on these threads is Stafford comes on (always within the first page) with a provocative defence of racism and then declares that 'he doesn't care/isn't bothered'. Almost as if he was just passing by and thought 'Well, I'm not really interested in this subject, but I better comment on this just in case people hadn't read my previous contributions to every single thread on this message board that has ever discussed racism...' I was just about to post something similar!!! Good to see Stafford is still going strong on the "I'm not a racist but..." line. The thing is I comment on these threads because I feel a bit passionate about it. Everyone in their right mind knows racism is wrong and I fully agree with that. What I don't agree with is how something very trivial suddenly becomes racist overnight. Racism needs stopping but I feel it goes too far the other way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:57:12 GMT
I don't and never will understand why people sing this shit at football. I remember going to filbert street in about 1996 and it was being sung in the streets outside the ground, luton the same season actually as well. What the fuck has it actually got to do with supporting stoke city football club? Also, are there no indian or pakistani people in stoke on trent, genuine question because i don't live there, don't walk the streets? Yes there are mate. Shelton is like their own area. Normacot is another predominantly Asian area within the City.
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Post by Davef on Jan 4, 2014 20:57:43 GMT
I heard nothing but presumably a few fuck drips sang something daft. For some reason most racist bollocks I hear these days is either from pretty old people pining for a world that never existed and probably let them down anyhow, or pretty young people who can't tie their own shoelaces. I'm half glad I'm at a middle age where my main worries are that my gut is growing faster than my overdraft, I have pubes bigger than my cock and the hair I have lost from my head, has congregated on my anus hole and up my nose. The colour of someone's skin seems quite trivial in such wretched times. Post of the year. The year is only four days old, but still.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 20:57:52 GMT
Yes there are mate. Shelton is like their own area. Bit ironic then wouldn't you say? It's not my bag mate all this, the no surrender chant used to make me cringe too, it's a football match not a fucking political rally. Have to say I never understand the Ira chants??? Most of the lads singing it were not born until after the troubles finished.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 21:00:29 GMT
Frankly, its ludicrous that people are still chanting this rubbish in 2014. It should be "Just a town full of Bulgarians". Leek would be town full of Polish.
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Post by cmc89 on Jan 4, 2014 21:01:57 GMT
I was just about to post something similar!!! Good to see Stafford is still going strong on the "I'm not a racist but..." line. The thing is I comment on these threads because I feel a bit passionate about it. Everyone in their right mind knows racism is wrong and I fully agree with that. What I don't agree with is how something very trivial suddenly becomes racist overnight. Racism needs stopping but I feel it goes too far the other way. Stafford, do you think "You're just a town full of p***'s" is racist? If you had an asian friend with you who found it offensive, would you ask the people singing it to stop?
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Post by scarlet on Jan 4, 2014 21:05:43 GMT
I don't and never will understand why people sing this shit at football. I remember going to filbert street in about 1996 and it was being sung in the streets outside the ground, luton the same season actually as well. What the fuck has it actually got to do with supporting stoke city football club? Also, are there no indian or pakistani people in stoke on trent, genuine question because i don't live there, don't walk the streets? Stoke-on-Trent is a diverse and multi-cultural city where the leader of the council is Asian. Makes the people chanting this shit sound even more stupid.
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Post by redwhite on Jan 4, 2014 21:07:59 GMT
I was just about to post something similar!!! Good to see Stafford is still going strong on the "I'm not a racist but..." line. The thing is I comment on these threads because I feel a bit passionate about it. Everyone in their right mind knows racism is wrong and I fully agree with that. What I don't agree with is how something very trivial suddenly becomes racist overnight. Racism needs stopping but I feel it goes too far the other way. Something trivial like calling someone a 'dirty cheating black cunt' you mean?
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Post by NottsMatt on Jan 4, 2014 21:09:30 GMT
another racist cun t i see Black people call each other nigger and thats ok but if a white man called a black man a nigger he would be shot... with the above in mind, if the man stating the chant was(is) a paki, then the chant wasnt racist? Stop fuking bitching at each other and get rid of this thread, its utter ballox! Oh and the 'stokies' caling the block 19 lads, shame on you calling your own crowd you boring fuk wits, go back to eating your prawn sarnies! Another key board warrior fuking bell end I see, Jog on
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 4, 2014 21:09:57 GMT
I don't and never will understand why people sing this shit at football. I remember going to filbert street in about 1996 and it was being sung in the streets outside the ground, luton the same season actually as well. What the fuck has it actually got to do with supporting stoke city football club? Also, are there no indian or pakistani people in stoke on trent, genuine question because i don't live there, don't walk the streets? Yes there are mate. Shelton is like their own area. You could not be more different to me if you tried. Thank fuck I don’t know you, or any of your herd.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 21:11:29 GMT
The thing is I comment on these threads because I feel a bit passionate about it. Everyone in their right mind knows racism is wrong and I fully agree with that. What I don't agree with is how something very trivial suddenly becomes racist overnight. Racism needs stopping but I feel it goes too far the other way. Stafford, do you think "You're just a town full of p***'s" is racist? If you had an asian friend with you who found it offensive, would you ask the people singing it to stop? I agree it may be offensive but not sure it's racist. The thing is I was bought up with all races. We had 2 shops near where I lived. 1 was the top shop because it was on top of a hill and the other was the paki shop for obvious reasons. The thing is it was called this by everyone, even the Pakistanis. To me it is just the same as calling others jocks, taffs etc because it was never called paki shop as an insult. It was how it was known, by everyone!
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 4, 2014 21:12:23 GMT
Well I sit in block 21 (middle of the boothen) and didn't hear any racist chanting or any other chanting today. Apart from the one person who started this thread did anyone else hear anything? +1 i would not tolerate any racist comments if within my hearing range. I seriously think that there are people on here- not necessarily Stokies or were even at the match - that fabricate these posts to scar our club. I was in the Boothen End, and didn't hear as much as a whissper of racism. Well the person who started this thread is a Stokie born and bred.I spoke to him after the game and he asked me if I'd heard the disgusting racist chants.I sit in block 15 of the Q-railing,so it must have been pretty loud for him to ask the question. And yes other contributors to this thread also heard it eg Robvandeurzan.It was probably the same thick cunts who sung the Munich song at old Trafford last year.These people don't need any help to embarrass our club and themselves.
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Post by Bullseye on Jan 4, 2014 21:12:53 GMT
I think we need to start this thread again, but before we start discussing racism, we need to clarify for some people what a RACE is.
Fucking hell.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 21:13:55 GMT
The thing is I comment on these threads because I feel a bit passionate about it. Everyone in their right mind knows racism is wrong and I fully agree with that. What I don't agree with is how something very trivial suddenly becomes racist overnight. Racism needs stopping but I feel it goes too far the other way. Something trivial like calling someone a 'dirty cheating black cunt' you mean? Oh ffs. I said I wasn't getting involved in this shit again. Zzzzz
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