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Post by robboleek on Dec 22, 2013 16:34:41 GMT
Me and my friend sit in the boothen and were absolutely stunned the ref allowed it! It was on a par with him catching the ball behind the line against us while playing for spurs. Still fuck it another decison that seems to have gone for is this season...... After god knows how many seasons of being on the wrong end of then
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Post by tijuanabrass on Dec 22, 2013 23:47:56 GMT
The only Villa player to appeal was behind Crouchy. The BBC site suggested he chested it down and yet there's a few on here that are using the "bout time we had a bit of luck" argument. It was hardly a Maradonna though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2013 23:51:00 GMT
yes was deffo handball, plus the fact you should of been down to 10 men but that would just gloss over the fact we didnt deserve to win you did ! merry fucking xmas Nah it was the correct call, it went straight to Bego and he never had under control and he dived. Albrighton should have walked although I haven't seen it again but it looked a horrible tackle at the time. And Delph should have gone for a second yellow for his foul on Adam (there's no doubt about that one). Other than that I agree!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2013 23:55:41 GMT
A basketball player using his hands, who'd have thought it.
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Post by sonichuth on Dec 22, 2013 23:59:13 GMT
It's only cos Crouchy's arms are so bloody massive it looked like it at the time.
Great goal.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Dec 23, 2013 12:02:10 GMT
The only Villa player to react was Lowton and he was the wrong side of Crouch to see if he handled it or not. Looked like it hit him on his side.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 14:26:22 GMT
yes was deffo handball, plus the fact you should of been down to 10 men but that would just gloss over the fact we didnt deserve to win you did ! merry fucking xmas To be fair Albrighton and Delph should have both been sent off... Dirty dirty team.
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Post by staffsvilla on Dec 23, 2013 17:14:07 GMT
yes was deffo handball, plus the fact you should of been down to 10 men but that would just gloss over the fact we didnt deserve to win you did ! merry fucking xmas To be fair Albrighton and Delph should have both been sent off... Dirty dirty team. yes i must admit we are a dirty team this season with 38 yellow cards the worst team in the league SCFC on the other hand are angels with 37 yellow cards the second worst team in the league
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 23, 2013 17:29:42 GMT
We've never been a dirty team really, sometimes I actually we'd be a bit dirtier. Charlie Adam has added a bit of dirtiness to the side though. And Huth isn't dirty, dirty to me is bad tackling, Huth is a grade A thug, I love that. As for the handball, at the time I thought he practically caught it, watching MOTD I couldn't tell where it hit him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 17:34:10 GMT
Is it just me who saw about 3 or 4 Villa players appeal for handball then? The more I see the incident the more it looks like handball to be honest. As they say though,these things even themselves out over a season,plus we won so not particularly bothered
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Post by staffsvilla on Dec 23, 2013 17:49:14 GMT
Is it just me who saw about 3 or 4 Villa players appeal for handball then? The more I see the incident the more it looks like handball to be honest. As they say though,these things even themselves out over a season,plus we won so not particularly bothered totally agree mate as with all things over the season they usually even out, even utd now "taggart" has gone
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 23, 2013 18:05:10 GMT
Is it just me who saw about 3 or 4 Villa players appeal for handball then? The more I see the incident the more it looks like handball to be honest. As they say though,these things even themselves out over a season,plus we won so not particularly bothered I thought it was a nailed on hand ball at the time but if you watch the replays the 2 or 3 Villa players who appealed were all on the blind side. The one on the line (Baker?) who had a perfect view didn't appeal which says it all. I think it hit his side (it may have brushed his arm as he pulled it away) but It wasn't deliberate handball.
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Post by ukcstokie on Dec 23, 2013 19:01:21 GMT
I've watched it a few times on Sky+ and for the life of me can't see any conclusive evidence that he hand balled it. It's close, but it looks like it's off his chest. It's strange too how they have chosen not to show it from 27 different angles - if there was even a real hint of handball then I'd suggest they would be.
I can understand the Villa fans still claiming hand ball - it's called clutching at straws, but the Stoke fans claiming it was blatant - despite the evidence - is just madness.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 23, 2013 19:22:44 GMT
I've watched it a few times on Sky+ and for the life of me can't see any conclusive evidence that he hand balled it. It's close, but it looks like it's off his chest. It's strange too how they have chosen not to show it from 27 different angles - if there was even a real hint of handball then I'd suggest they would be. I can understand the Villa fans still claiming hand ball - it's called clutching at straws, but the Stoke fans claiming it was blatant - despite the evidence - is just madness. Not if they were at the game with a good view and saw him punch it down. To be honest considering the evidence... - Most at the game seemed to think it was handball - The normal speed replay looks like it is - Vigorous appeal from most Villa defenders (where the hell did 'only one' come from??) - Jonny Walters' arm in the air and nervous look to the liner ...I'd say it's likely it was. Which is fine with me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 23, 2013 19:23:17 GMT
I've watched it a few times on Sky+ and for the life of me can't see any conclusive evidence that he hand balled it. It's close, but it looks like it's off his chest. It's strange too how they have chosen not to show it from 27 different angles - if there was even a real hint of handball then I'd suggest they would be. I can understand the Villa fans still claiming hand ball - it's called clutching at straws, but the Stoke fans claiming it was blatant - despite the evidence - is just madness. At the time it looked blatant and like a lot of people who've mentioned it I thought it was going to be disallowed instantly. But on the replays I can't make out where it touches.
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Post by ukcstokie on Dec 23, 2013 19:45:17 GMT
I've watched it a few times on Sky+ and for the life of me can't see any conclusive evidence that he hand balled it. It's close, but it looks like it's off his chest. It's strange too how they have chosen not to show it from 27 different angles - if there was even a real hint of handball then I'd suggest they would be. I can understand the Villa fans still claiming hand ball - it's called clutching at straws, but the Stoke fans claiming it was blatant - despite the evidence - is just madness. Not if they were at the game with a good view and saw him punch it down. To be honest considering the evidence... - Most at the game seemed to think it was handball - The normal speed replay looks like it is - Vigorous appeal from most Villa defenders (where the hell did 'only one' come from??) - Jonny Walters' arm in the air and nervous look to the liner ...I'd say it's likely it was. Which is fine with me. As I say - I just don't see any evidence at all that he "punched it down". There isn't any footage that backs that up. Just because the normal speed replay may - if you want to see it - show something. It looks as though it comes off his chest. Like other people have mentioned - the Villa players with the best view didn't appeal. The rest were blind sided. They were just trying it on. Why would SJW look at the liner if he was worried about handball? Surely he'd look at the ref?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 20:05:47 GMT
This thread would be heading down a completely different route if the title was "did Kozak handball it"
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 23, 2013 23:31:03 GMT
If it was did Kozak handball it, I'd probably say...... "At the time it looked blatant and like a lot of people who've mentioned it I thought it was going to be disallowed instantly. But on the replays I can't make out where it touches". Oh and ukcstokie, I think he looked at the linesman because she probably should have had the best view.
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Post by hoopty on Dec 23, 2013 23:43:54 GMT
Not sure why this thread is still live. All the replays show it clearly is not a handball.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 23:44:05 GMT
If it was did Kozak handball it, I'd probably say...... "At the time it looked blatant and like a lot of people who've mentioned it I thought it was going to be disallowed instantly. But on the replays I can't make out where it touches". Oh and ukcstokie, I think he looked at the linesman because she probably should have had the best view. ...and has a reputation for getting things right. First thing I did when the goal went in was to look at the liner. Couldn't believe the goal stood.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 23, 2013 23:55:28 GMT
If it was did Kozak handball it, I'd probably say...... "At the time it looked blatant and like a lot of people who've mentioned it I thought it was going to be disallowed instantly. But on the replays I can't make out where it touches". Oh and ukcstokie, I think he looked at the linesman because she probably should have had the best view. ...and has a reputation for getting things right. First thing I did when the goal went in was to look at the liner. Couldn't believe the goal stood. Totally agree. I think she's the best and it was the first thing I did too, thoroughly ecstatic was my reaction as I saw no flag faving and the ref pointing to the centre circle.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 0:03:28 GMT
...and has a reputation for getting things right. First thing I did when the goal went in was to look at the liner. Couldn't believe the goal stood. Totally agree. I think she's the best and it was the first thing I did too, thoroughly ecstatic was my reaction as I saw no flag faving and the ref pointing to the centre circle. Funnily enough I thought she missed a few things on Saturday including the foul on Crouch late in the game which could have been a sending off and was literally right in front of her. Overall though, I think her reputation for being one of the best is well earned, and at least when she makes mistakes they're random rather than always favouring one side like the rest of the dickwads.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2013 0:12:55 GMT
Totally agree. I think she's the best and it was the first thing I did too, thoroughly ecstatic was my reaction as I saw no flag faving and the ref pointing to the centre circle. Funnily enough I thought she missed a few things on Saturday including the foul on Crouch late in the game which could have been a sending off and was literally right in front of her. Overall though, I think her reputation for being one of the best is well earned, and at least when she makes mistakes they're random rather than always favouring one side like the rest of the dickwads. I can't remember that one? There's a good chance it was right in front of me too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 0:22:25 GMT
Funnily enough I thought she missed a few things on Saturday including the foul on Crouch late in the game which could have been a sending off and was literally right in front of her. Overall though, I think her reputation for being one of the best is well earned, and at least when she makes mistakes they're random rather than always favouring one side like the rest of the dickwads. I can't remember that one? There's a good chance it was right in front of me too. You were probably watching the liner's ponytail at the time. I found myself strangely drawn towards it ...a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 10:01:53 GMT
To be fair Albrighton and Delph should have both been sent off... Dirty dirty team. yes i must admit we are a dirty team this season with 38 yellow cards the worst team in the league SCFC on the other hand are angels with 37 yellow cards the second worst team in the league We were screwed by the refs
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Post by leicspotter on Dec 24, 2013 10:21:46 GMT
I thought at the time Crouchy used his arm to control the ball, still do, still don't care It may not have been deliberate as the ball came to him from between keeper and defender so the "ball to hand" argument may be justified
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Post by Stokieson on Dec 24, 2013 15:44:49 GMT
From the Boothen End at the time I was certain it was a blatant handball, and couldn't believe it when the goal stood (was a very pleasant surprise!). Didn't look as obvious on the replays though, and it did bounce up to him at point blank range so agree you could argue ball to hand.
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