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Post by f1rew0rks on Dec 19, 2013 10:00:43 GMT
I thought that as i got back on the motorway after Birmingham .... bloody 2.15 I got home, soaked, pissed off and gutted!! :-)
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Dec 19, 2013 10:02:02 GMT
They were good. Just noticed a cockney twang to their singing though. And M6 southbound was rammed on way home Yes the A500 North and M6 North were fine as well. Might have been some extra on the M56 heading for the airport though - those Dublin/Singapore/Hong Kong flights fill up fast! Man U's away support is made up of the rags that can't get into Old Trafford because the tourists get in first. Ever likely they make a noise - it's more like the "old days" for them. But don't kid yourselves they're Stretford/Miles Platting/Salford's finest - there'll be as many B,WV,GU,CF etc. postcodes as there were M's in their home addresses. Personally I think a goal (either first or at 0-1) would have stumped them and given us some impetus a-la Chelsea last week. The Moyes love-in would have quickly turned to Moyes Out. Oh well, I'm hoping it's a better showing for the League game in Feb.
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Post by jarhead on Dec 19, 2013 10:06:57 GMT
I love what we come back with...'Oh when the Reds' for the 67855 time in one half! how wank and boring is that song that has nothing to do with us ffs!!!
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Post by stoke4eva on Dec 19, 2013 10:08:47 GMT
i hate them. thier support was wank.
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Post by stokeramblers on Dec 19, 2013 10:10:14 GMT
i hate them. thier support was wank. I hate them too but their support wasn't wank.
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Post by kevkj on Dec 19, 2013 10:47:24 GMT
Songsheets wont help ,you feel a cunt singing when most round you dont.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 19, 2013 11:01:27 GMT
It's not neccessarily songs we need but chants and orchestrated "noise" that I thinkl works best...
Example, when Rory was winding up for a throw - that Zulu-like rythemic clapping / stamping - we need stuff like that......so the team know we are there behind 'em.....we used to bang on the corrugated iron at the back of the stands once upon a time...a right row (probably get thrown out for that now I guess)...
A Dortmund-style MC to lead the war-crys is what we need not cheesy nursery rhymes a la Manc....
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Post by thebet365 on Dec 19, 2013 11:23:38 GMT
Quite clearly more in there that should have been thought the isles were rammed. The front 3 or 4 rows right across the stand were empty. because they were all in the isles further up.
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Post by starkiller on Dec 19, 2013 11:34:42 GMT
I love what we come back with...'Oh when the Reds' for the 67855 time in one half! how wank and boring is that song that has nothing to do with us ffs!!! Dreadful, dreary and embarrassingly unsuitable tune - brought back by 70s part-timers when they returned after 30 years. Along with "go-on Stoke" is now pretty much the extent of our repertoire. There's a time when we would barely have allowed an away following to get a word in, nevermind for the full 90 minutes. Pathetic effort for a cup game against Man U.
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Post by jarhead on Dec 19, 2013 14:19:22 GMT
Starkiller it really was.
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Post by frankboughsbutplug on Dec 19, 2013 14:24:01 GMT
I dont think the majority of our support have the intelligence to string a fuckin sentence together
Arnie arnie, bego bego, wilko wilko is our limit unfortunately
Even Delilahs had its day
A pathetic excuse for an atmosphere
We are soulless
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 19, 2013 15:17:17 GMT
I was really looking forward to last night. On the back of the Chelsea performance, Cup QF under lights at the Brit. The Town was quiet, the logistics were chaos, the performance fairly pedestrian with moments of shambolic disorganisation.
The Mancs outsang us, I felt a sense of embarrassment at our 'When the Reds...' and was utterly dampened and demoralised by the time they started singing 'Sparky.. give us a wave...' I stopped watching the game, {as did several of our players} it was too painful. My focus switched to a couple of rows in front of me in Block 10 where a lad was doing the plane arms... I thought it was pathetic, but at least he showed a bit of vim. It's incredibly difficult to summon up a good shout when you're sat down, especially when sat amongst chin-strokers. It didn't help create an atmosphere when the players we do have songs for: Huth, N'Zonzi and Jones didn't feature. I'm not an advocate of artificially trying to create a noise if there's nowt much happening on the pitch to justify it, but I'm amazed we ain't developed proper chants for Begovic, Shawcross and Crouch to add to our canon.
Last night confirmed for me that the South Stand are really like the Brit Expeditionary Force in terms of crowd banter, they were shifted to the nether regions of the ground and the whole atmosphere suffered as a result.
The crowd reflected the team, disjointed, disorganised and impotent. Roll on saturday, we need to bounce back quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 17:29:21 GMT
I was convinced the atmosphere last night was going to be awesome but it was a real letdown. The oddest part for me was when the hail-storm began and then all of a sudden the atmosphere became, for just a few minutes at least, a throwback to what it had been in our early premiership years. It was almost as if that flurry of freak weather sparked a moment of primeval excitement amongst our ranks, a spontaneous and subconscious mass of howling that would engulf and devour even the most passionate anthem! And then the hail stopped and we fell silent again.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 19, 2013 22:21:51 GMT
I had two observations about them last night.
While they were loud throughout, they were (as they always are against us) completely incoherent. There wasn't as much variety as people make out either - they mostly stuck to that song with the 'fiiiiive murr murr murr' in it (yes, I know it's the song about Cantona but if you didn't know that in advance you'd have no clue), the '25 (???) murr murr murr' and 'murrrrr murrrrr murrrrrr', whatever that was.
Secondly, whatever credit they had for being loud, they pretty much lost after scoring. They set off a flare - good for them, lots of supporters do it now, despite it looking unbelievably crap. Then they all sung 'we do what we want', which was about as embarrassing and small time as it gets. Oh wow, you set off a single flare in the middle of the away end. How very very impressive, that sure shows the extent to which you do whatever you like. What next, standing around next to a 'no loitering' sign? Smoking in the toilets?
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Post by 1982stokie on Dec 19, 2013 22:30:56 GMT
To be fair it's prob their first game they have been since they played us last time. So they would be up for it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 22:46:57 GMT
I love what we come back with...'Oh when the Reds' for the 67855 time in one half! how wank and boring is that song that has nothing to do with us ffs!!! Dead right. That's the only song we can muster up, and event that was only sang when the players went off! What pisses me off is when you go away games a hour before kick off the pubs are bouncing with loads of songs, all old and some new, yet we get in the ground and it's back to oh when the reds or go on stoke! Wank
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Post by steino1966 on Dec 19, 2013 22:56:42 GMT
Home matches for atmosphere are dreadful, only song we sing is oh when the reds! Something needs change maybe as suggested in another thread, that fans who want to make an atmosphere try to be at a certain location in the ground. Could be the whole of block 19, or top of 19 and 20 or the south stand, a bit like the Palace fans have done. Takes a season or two but eventually people who don't want stand and sing would relocate to other parts of the stadium, and people who want to join will; or maybe one day Stoke might trial safe standing.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Dec 19, 2013 23:28:48 GMT
Home matches for atmosphere are dreadful, only song we sing is oh when the reds! Something needs change maybe as suggested in another thread, that fans who want to make an atmosphere try to be at a certain location in the ground. Could be the whole of block 19, or top of 19 and 20 or the south stand, a bit like the Palace fans have done. Takes a season or two but eventually people who don't want stand and sing would relocate to other parts of the stadium, and people who want to join will; or maybe one day Stoke might trial safe standing. I wouldn't count on it while coates is still here. He's one who has openly criticised the idea. Really though a section is the only real way to improve the atmosphere. People who like to sing are too distanced and need to be together as one. It annoys me how the back corner of the boothen and the top of the south stand are so far apart. They are our two main orchestrating sections but are the furthest possible distance from each other. They could actually make a bit of a din if they could hear each other. You try and sing in other areas and you get looked at like you're some kind of lunatic. "SINGING?? AT A FOOTBALL MATCH?! why... That is the silliest idea I have ever heard. sit down and shut up. You're giving me a headache." I hope it's brought up with the club. It could be trailed for a cup game. Our atmosphere, realistically, has been going down hill ever since we reached safety in the first season.
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Post by steino1966 on Dec 20, 2013 19:26:07 GMT
Home matches for atmosphere are dreadful, only song we sing is oh when the reds! Something needs change maybe as suggested in another thread, that fans who want to make an atmosphere try to be at a certain location in the ground. Could be the whole of block 19, or top of 19 and 20 or the south stand, a bit like the Palace fans have done. Takes a season or two but eventually people who don't want stand and sing would relocate to other parts of the stadium, and people who want to join will; or maybe one day Stoke might trial safe standing. I wouldn't count on it while coates is still here. He's one who has openly criticised the idea. Really though a section is the only real way to improve the atmosphere. People who like to sing are too distanced and need to be together as one. It annoys me how the back corner of the boothen and the top of the south stand are so far apart. They are our two main orchestrating sections but are the furthest possible distance from each other. They could actually make a bit of a din if they could hear each other. You try and sing in other areas and you get looked at like you're some kind of lunatic. "SINGING?? AT A FOOTBALL MATCH?! why... That is the silliest idea I have ever heard. sit down and shut up. You're giving me a headache." I hope it's brought up with the club. It could be trailed for a cup game. Our atmosphere, realistically, has been going down hill ever since we reached safety in the first season. Yeah, read on here a while back that Coates is not into the whole safe standing idea but you never know maybe one day don't know how the Palace fans did it, could of just been on their equivalent to the oatcake and after a few fans agree to try get season tickets in a certain block others begin to follow, or they spoke to the club and the club assisted them in creating a so called singing section? But what ever the case think us the fans need to arrange something to improve the atmosphere at home games.
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Post by f1rew0rks on Dec 20, 2013 20:19:31 GMT
Home matches for atmosphere are dreadful, only song we sing is oh when the reds! Something needs change maybe as suggested in another thread, that fans who want to make an atmosphere try to be at a certain location in the ground. Could be the whole of block 19, or top of 19 and 20 or the south stand, a bit like the Palace fans have done. Takes a season or two but eventually people who don't want stand and sing would relocate to other parts of the stadium, and people who want to join will; or maybe one day Stoke might trial safe standing. I wouldn't count on it while coates is still here. He's one who has openly criticised the idea. Really though a section is the only real way to improve the atmosphere. People who like to sing are too distanced and need to be together as one. It annoys me how the back corner of the boothen and the top of the south stand are so far apart. They are our two main orchestrating sections but are the furthest possible distance from each other. They could actually make a bit of a din if they could hear each other. You try and sing in other areas and you get looked at like you're some kind of lunatic. "SINGING?? AT A FOOTBALL MATCH?! why... That is the silliest idea I have ever heard. sit down and shut up. You're giving me a headache." I hope it's brought up with the club. It could be trailed for a cup game. Our atmosphere, realistically, has been going down hill ever since we reached safety in the first season. Funny you mention those 2 areas, I generally get seats nearer the front of block 20 and the only noise seems to be "supporters" shouting obscenities at the ref or their own players, but I was in the back of the South stand against Chelsea and it was amazing the whole game, I was at the back of block 20 on Wednesday and it had its moments too.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 20, 2013 20:26:08 GMT
They sang that bass song (which I fucking hate) to which we replied with "SHIT, SHIT, SHIT" and then 10 minutes later you had block 19 starting their own rendition of the same song.. sums up the majority of our fan base unfortunately.
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Post by crouchbot on Dec 20, 2013 20:36:18 GMT
They sang that bass song (which I fucking hate) to which we replied with "SHIT, SHIT, SHIT" and then 10 minutes later you had block 19 starting their own rendition of the same song.. sums up the majority of our fan base unfortunately. That's not what the 'Shit' chants were for, at the end of the bass song they broke into a 'UNITED, UNITED, UNITED' chant and the Stokies replied with 'SHIT, SHIT, SHIT'.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 20, 2013 20:59:09 GMT
They sang that bass song (which I fucking hate) to which we replied with "SHIT, SHIT, SHIT" and then 10 minutes later you had block 19 starting their own rendition of the same song.. sums up the majority of our fan base unfortunately. That's not what the 'Shit' chants were for, at the end of the bass song they broke into a 'UNITED, UNITED, UNITED' chant and the Stokies replied with 'SHIT, SHIT, SHIT'. Erm well it deffo happened during one of their bass songs. For once I wasn't drunk at a Stoke game so know what I heard. (but yes we did shout SHIT during that as well)
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