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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 10:43:12 GMT
In fact, if there are any teachers on here who could anonymously supply a GCSE paper, i'll happily take Bish on for charity being as the dirty muthatrukka has questioned my supreme ability as a product of the comprehensive system versus his elite education.
The chips are down. I'm on fire. Let battle commence.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 10:50:30 GMT
Some of your grammar ia a bit iffy ************** ! ..... OK. Could you explain where I'm going wrong please Bish. My aim is true though mate. I'm not taking the piss, no one ever explained it to me. I thought I'd figured it out. Comprehensive Education etc. Comprehensive eh? Let's say no more about it .....it was beyond your control ......I was nit picking of course ....it's isn't really relevant on a board like this is it ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 10:54:30 GMT
In fact, if there are any teachers on here who could anonymously supply a GCSE paper, i'll happily take Bish on for charity being as the dirty muthatrukka has questioned my supreme ability as a product of the comprehensive system versus his elite education. The chips are down. I'm on fire. Let battle commence. when did I ever suggest that I received an elite education ? I sat an eleven plus exam like many more did and was good enough to pass it ......you really must stop trying to make issues out things that are unimportant Clffy
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Post by murphthesurf on Dec 10, 2013 11:12:16 GMT
Has anyone else visited the place? I am arranging a visit in july of next year and I would be interested in hearing anyone elses thoughtsIif they have aleady been? Thanks. I've been to both Auschwitz and Birkenau, plus to the war graves near Ypres and an allied cemetery in Thailand. I thought long and hard before visiting all of them, and the two Polish sites in particular, as I wondered if I'd be able to 'cope with' what was bound to be a hard-hitting experience, but I decided that I should go as my own small tribute to those who had perished there. All were deeply, deeply, moving and literally never-to-be-forgotten experiences, but for me that description must most of all apply to Auschwitz, especially seeing the framed photographs of individual prisoners with dates of their 'stays', plus the glass cases holding some of their belongings such as the piles of their hair and cut-off plaits, and of course the moments of standing in the actual gas chambers. If you do visit, I can guarantee that from the very moment you walk in under the 'Arbeit Macht Frei' archway it will be one of the most chilling, soul-numbing and completely heartbreaking experiences of your life. Your guide's calm but vivid commentary will bring all the horrors so immediately and devastatingly back to life that you will keep finding yourself shaking your head in sorrow and utter disbelief at how anyone could have devised the various forms of torture - and there were MANY - how anyone could have committed the acts, and how anyone could have possibly ever coped with being imprisoned there. You will leave the place convinced that all people, and in particular politicians and so-called World Leaders, should be obliged to make the visit. And if you are moved to tears, don't be embarrassed - you won't be alone.
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Post by potterglen on Dec 11, 2013 20:39:53 GMT
Visited Natzweiler in the Alsace a couple of times and felt every possible emotion on both occasion, what Auschwitz is like I cannot imagine. Check out this story of four British SOE Agents - it'll make your blood boil. www.scrapbookpages.com/Natzweiler/SOEagents.html
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Post by salopstick on Dec 11, 2013 20:44:40 GMT
In fact, if there are any teachers on here who could anonymously supply a GCSE paper, i'll happily take Bish on for charity being as the dirty muthatrukka has questioned my supreme ability as a product of the comprehensive system versus his elite education. The chips are down. I'm on fire. Let battle commence. They don't get time Too busy marking and lesson prepping
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2013 20:54:12 GMT
Has anyone else visited the place? I am arranging a visit in july of next year and I would be interested in hearing anyone elses thoughtsIif they have aleady been? Thanks. I've been to both Auschwitz and Birkenau, plus to the war graves near Ypres and an allied cemetery in Thailand. I thought long and hard before visiting all of them, and the two Polish sites in particular, as I wondered if I'd be able to 'cope with' what was bound to be a hard-hitting experience, but I decided that I should go as my own small tribute to those who had perished there. All were deeply, deeply, moving and literally never-to-be-forgotten experiences, but for me that description must most of all apply to Auschwitz, especially seeing the framed photographs of individual prisoners with dates of their 'stays', plus the glass cases holding some of their belongings such as the piles of their hair and cut-off plaits, and of course the moments of standing in the actual gas chambers. If you do visit, I can guarantee that from the very moment you walk in under the 'Arbeit Macht Frei' archway it will be one of the most chilling, soul-numbing and completely heartbreaking experiences of your life. Your guide's calm but vivid commentary will bring all the horrors so immediately and devastatingly back to life that you will keep finding yourself shaking your head in sorrow and utter disbelief at how anyone could have devised the various forms of torture - and there were MANY - how anyone could have committed the acts, and how anyone could have possibly ever coped with being imprisoned there. You will leave the place convinced that all people, and in particular politicians and so-called World Leaders, should be obliged to make the visit. And if you are moved to tears, don't be embarrassed - you won't be alone. The tour guide we had was calm but angry. She was very good, but you can definitely sense the amount of hatred the Polish have towards this place, as a surprising amount of Polish people were sent there and a huge number of them were killed by the Nazi's (more at political prisoners). Stay in Krakow, it's a beautiful city, and try to visit the Gestapo cells too, they are also quite horrifying. It was also used by the communists for nearly the same reasons. I came out of Poland with a very positive opinion of the Polish, they've had a pretty bad recent history. I know it's going a bit off track but visit the underground museum in the centre square of Krakow if you can, it's brilliant.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2013 20:54:35 GMT
Visited Natzweiler in the Alsace a couple of times and felt every possible emotion on both occasion, what Auschwitz is like I cannot imagine. Check out this story of four British SOE Agents - it'll make your blood boil. www.scrapbookpages.com/Natzweiler/SOEagents.html There are many such stories about SOE operatives mate ....I recommend a book called SOE by MRD Foot
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Post by DansViews on Dec 11, 2013 21:31:14 GMT
I am trying to book a package trip there - all in, flights hotel and a trip to the memorial. Would anyone point me In the right direction ?
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Post by DansViews on Dec 11, 2013 21:31:23 GMT
I am trying to book a package trip there - all in, flights hotel and a trip to the memorial. Would anyone point me In the right direction ?
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Post by tuum on Dec 12, 2013 5:51:10 GMT
Some of your grammar ia a bit iffy ************** ! ..... OK. Could you explain where I'm going wrong please Bish. My aim is true though mate. I'm not taking the piss, no one ever explained it to me. I thought I'd figured it out. Comprehensive Education etc. Let me help you out. There was a comma instead of a full stop and a lower case letter instead of a capital letter....and that was just a cursory glance. I am afraid to look in any greater detail for fear of what I may find.. . it could be soul destroying!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 10:11:31 GMT
In fact, if there are any teachers on here who could anonymously supply a GCSE paper, i'll happily take Bish on for charity being as the dirty muthatrukka has questioned my supreme ability as a product of the comprehensive system versus his elite education. The chips are down. I'm on fire. Let battle commence. They don't get time Too busy marking and lesson prepping Those poor teachers. I know you really feel for them mate.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 10:14:03 GMT
Has anyone else visited the place? I am arranging a visit in july of next year and I would be interested in hearing anyone elses thoughtsIif they have aleady been? Thanks. I've been to both Auschwitz and Birkenau, plus to the war graves near Ypres and an allied cemetery in Thailand. I thought long and hard before visiting all of them, and the two Polish sites in particular, as I wondered if I'd be able to 'cope with' what was bound to be a hard-hitting experience, but I decided that I should go as my own small tribute to those who had perished there. All were deeply, deeply, moving and literally never-to-be-forgotten experiences, but for me that description must most of all apply to Auschwitz, especially seeing the framed photographs of individual prisoners with dates of their 'stays', plus the glass cases holding some of their belongings such as the piles of their hair and cut-off plaits, and of course the moments of standing in the actual gas chambers. If you do visit, I can guarantee that from the very moment you walk in under the 'Arbeit Macht Frei' archway it will be one of the most chilling, soul-numbing and completely heartbreaking experiences of your life. Your guide's calm but vivid commentary will bring all the horrors so immediately and devastatingly back to life that you will keep finding yourself shaking your head in sorrow and utter disbelief at how anyone could have devised the various forms of torture - and there were MANY - how anyone could have committed the acts, and how anyone could have possibly ever coped with being imprisoned there. You will leave the place convinced that all people, and in particular politicians and so-called World Leaders, should be obliged to make the visit. And if you are moved to tears, don't be embarrassed - you won't be alone. Beautiful words 'Bro.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Dec 12, 2013 12:36:00 GMT
Dont think i could hack it going to these places. Years ago on a day out from our Easter Rugby Tour we visited Oradour-sur-Glane a French village wiped out by the Gestapo in WW2 as they believed the maquis of that village had kidnapped a German Officer. They were wrong ...it was another village Oradour-sur-Vayre. The whole place has been left as it was on the day it happened with cars in the street ,burned out homes and the church in which the women and kids were herded before being burned to the ground. Its a sobering memorial to all those 642 villagers and not one of 20 plus rugby players left without a tear in their eyes. www.oradour.info/
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Post by cartman123 on Dec 12, 2013 15:26:42 GMT
I honestly don't think I could go there. I understand that it's totally essential for these sites to be preserved, but I don't think I could deal with it, especially after reading some of your heartfelt posts in this thread. I think some people are compelled to visit, it's a very personal choice. What happened in those camps, is quite beyond me, whatever the circumstances. Yet we seem to have learned so precious little from it in our day and age. This is why true democracy has to be fought for at every given opportunity. Not a Bible bashing democracy or a Q'oran style democracy, not a dictatorship or a totalitarian state. I'm talking about a classical political democracy with free speech and a fair constitution, with a referendum on matters such as going to war. As far as this planet goes everything else has proven to end up in a right bloody mess. If we scrap religion and put the money spent on armies and weapons into finally nailing nuclear fission, we'd all be sipping Pina Colada's and laughing on a beach somewhere sunny. Why are we so poor at using the obvious lessons from history in our own time of real enlightenment? That's the irony and the saddest indictment on the poor people that were gassed to death in the most in humane way possible. Those Nazi bastards told those men, women and children that they were "going for a shower". I can't even watch Schindlers List. I've never seen it. It's way too close to the bone for me. The holocaust had nothing to do with religion so not quite sure what you are getting at here? If you one of those idiots who thinks a world without religion would result in world peace then you are a fool. I remember a debate between Dawkins and Dr Lennox and Lennox went onto say how he could imagine a world without atheism, and he was spot on about what he said too.
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Post by cartman123 on Dec 12, 2013 15:31:31 GMT
Personally don't agree with visiting a place like this. Going there and taking pictures is completely undermining the numerous people who lost their lives there. Hitler can rot in hell. So can Stalin.
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Post by cartman123 on Dec 12, 2013 15:34:48 GMT
This is harrowing. Yet it speaks a thousands words of the horrors that unfolded during that time.
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Post by marrer on Dec 12, 2013 16:28:13 GMT
You all paint such a lovely picture " Harrowing" "Upsetting" "Ghoulish"....Mmmmmm...Think I'll go to Euro Disney instead... Ey up Tim, 6 more sleeps until England!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 12:22:03 GMT
You all paint such a lovely picture " Harrowing" "Upsetting" "Ghoulish"....Mmmmmm...Think I'll go to Euro Disney instead... Ey up Tim, 6 more sleeps until England! Approx 540 for me....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 12:24:02 GMT
I honestly don't think I could go there. I understand that it's totally essential for these sites to be preserved, but I don't think I could deal with it, especially after reading some of your heartfelt posts in this thread. I think some people are compelled to visit, it's a very personal choice. What happened in those camps, is quite beyond me, whatever the circumstances. Yet we seem to have learned so precious little from it in our day and age. This is why true democracy has to be fought for at every given opportunity. Not a Bible bashing democracy or a Q'oran style democracy, not a dictatorship or a totalitarian state. I'm talking about a classical political democracy with free speech and a fair constitution, with a referendum on matters such as going to war. As far as this planet goes everything else has proven to end up in a right bloody mess. If we scrap religion and put the money spent on armies and weapons into finally nailing nuclear fission, we'd all be sipping Pina Colada's and laughing on a beach somewhere sunny. Why are we so poor at using the obvious lessons from history in our own time of real enlightenment? That's the irony and the saddest indictment on the poor people that were gassed to death in the most in humane way possible. Those Nazi bastards told those men, women and children that they were "going for a shower". I can't even watch Schindlers List. I've never seen it. It's way too close to the bone for me. The holocaust had nothing to do with religion so not quite sure what you are getting at here? If you one of those idiots who thinks a world without religion would result in world peace then you are a fool. I remember a debate between Dawkins and Dr Lennox and Lennox went onto say how he could imagine a world without atheism, and he was spot on about what he said too. If you look deep enough you'll see that it's there (religion). Why do you think that i'm a fool for wanting an end to war? I'd say it was a good idea!
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