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Post by huuuuuth on Dec 7, 2013 5:02:32 GMT
What a bunch of gutless wankers Monty- more bollocks than the majority put together. Good effort son I'd better see some fight at the Brit later or ill be fucking fuming (even more) after watching this shit
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 7, 2013 5:59:59 GMT
Heart says England will take advantage of a good batting wicket and pile on some BIG runs; 3 centurions including one double ton (KP?). One consequence of this is Harris will break down and Mitch loses the plot and form. Too much to ask for a reverse of Adelaide 2006 but England will carry momentum into Perth where they'll destroy a shell shocked Australia team. Head says we'll get bowled out tomorrow for a score of c250; Australia will bat again to cause more damage to our bowlers deteriorating confidence setting themselves up for another 300+ run victory. Perth will then be an X-rated show at the end of which the Ashes will now be back in the posession of the Aussies. Heads it is! But even worse than I thought; 172 all out. Oh dear!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 6:20:14 GMT
Heart says England will take advantage of a good batting wicket and pile on some BIG runs; 3 centurions including one double ton (KP?). One consequence of this is Harris will break down and Mitch loses the plot and form. Too much to ask for a reverse of Adelaide 2006 but England will carry momentum into Perth where they'll destroy a shell shocked Australia team. Head says we'll get bowled out tomorrow for a score of c250; Australia will bat again to cause more damage to our bowlers deteriorating confidence setting themselves up for another 300+ run victory. Perth will then be an X-rated show at the end of which the Ashes will now be back in the posession of the Aussies. Heads it is! But even worse than I thought; 172 all out. Oh dear! The one tiny bright spot is how the Aussies have played in this session. Clarke had a bit of an impossible choice. They are terrified of Johnson breaking down (and Harris to a lesser extent), so to protect him they had to bat. But, to stay in charge they had to smack us about. A nightmare start (slack) and then they have crawled into their shell. IF we can take heart from this - and maybe another session tomorrow? - then possibly a draw is possible. Just possibly. And if we get anything from this test, from where we were two hours ago, then that might turn the series away from where it was heading. GONE! Clarke Get in Monty
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 7, 2013 6:35:36 GMT
Heads it is! But even worse than I thought; 172 all out. Oh dear! The one tiny bright spot is how the Aussies have played in this session. Clarke had a bit of an impossible choice. They are terrified of Johnson breaking down (and Harris to a lesser extent), so to protect him they had to bat. But, to stay in charge they had to smack us about. A nightmare start (slack) and then they have crawled into their shell. IF we can take heart from this - and maybe another session tomorrow? - then possibly a draw is possible. Just possibly. And if we get anything from this test, from where we were two hours ago, then that might turn the series away from where it was heading. GONE! Clarke Get in Monty Nice ball from Monty! One disappointing thing with this series is we are failing miserably against a not very good Aussie team. Their batting, well their top order at least, is really weak. Our batting though is even worse and we don't have a tail anywhere as good as Australia's. Cook knows he needs to protect Anderson and Broad so expect a lot of overs from the spinners this innings. So what now? Australia bat to lunch tomorrow and declare with a lead of 600+. Best case we get a draw. Worst case, we get bowled out inside two sessions and don't even get into the 5th day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 6:42:00 GMT
The one tiny bright spot is how the Aussies have played in this session. Clarke had a bit of an impossible choice. They are terrified of Johnson breaking down (and Harris to a lesser extent), so to protect him they had to bat. But, to stay in charge they had to smack us about. A nightmare start (slack) and then they have crawled into their shell. IF we can take heart from this - and maybe another session tomorrow? - then possibly a draw is possible. Just possibly. And if we get anything from this test, from where we were two hours ago, then that might turn the series away from where it was heading. GONE! Clarke Get in Monty Nice ball from Monty! One disappointing thing with this series is we are failing miserably against a not very good Aussie team. Their batting, well their top order at least, is really weak. Our batting though is even worse and we don't have a tail anywhere as good as Australia's. Cook knows he needs to protect Anderson and Broad so expect a lot of overs from the spinners this innings. So what now? Australia bat to lunch tomorrow and declare with a lead of 600+. Best case we get a draw. Worst case, we get bowled out inside two sessions and don't even get into the 5th day. The consensus of the Aussie commentry team is that they will declare at stumps tonight (not quite a unanimous view). Given how they have played, this session, I think I would do the same - If they were smacking us about, I think they may have batted at least one session tomorrow. So ... can we bat for two days? We certainly don't look like getting 500 while we are at it - but a draw would be a fantastic result from where we were at tea today. GONE?! Appealed it ... Looked close to me (EDIT: Nah, not close )
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 7, 2013 7:07:37 GMT
Nice ball from Monty! One disappointing thing with this series is we are failing miserably against a not very good Aussie team. Their batting, well their top order at least, is really weak. Our batting though is even worse and we don't have a tail anywhere as good as Australia's. Cook knows he needs to protect Anderson and Broad so expect a lot of overs from the spinners this innings. So what now? Australia bat to lunch tomorrow and declare with a lead of 600+. Best case we get a draw. Worst case, we get bowled out inside two sessions and don't even get into the 5th day. The consensus of the Aussie commentry team is that they will declare at stumps tonight (not quite a unanimous view). Given how they have played, this session, I think I would do the same - If they were smacking us about, I think they may have batted at least one session tomorrow. So ... can we bat for two days? We certainly don't look like getting 500 while we are at it - but a draw would be a fantastic result from where we were at tea today. GONE?! Appealed it ... Looked close to me (EDIT: Nah, not close ) They're holding all the cards for sure. It is only a question of when. Tonight or lunch tomorrow doesn't make a lot of difference. It's then all about hoping our batsmen show up which is an increasingly forlorn hope.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 7, 2013 8:20:48 GMT
abysmal
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 8:38:44 GMT
Poor Compton I certainly don't think he would have played such poor shots that Root and the Ego maniac played .... Well he couldn't do any worse that the shambles served up so far this series.
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Post by harrysburrow on Dec 7, 2013 8:56:00 GMT
Oh well, Chelsea this afternoon. I'm sure we'll all feel a lot better come 17.00 hrs?
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Post by stoke111 on Dec 7, 2013 9:12:26 GMT
The team has landed Great news Mitchell Johnson in line for a recall Not so great news after all! England were awful but credit to Johnson he bowled rapid!
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Post by stoke111 on Dec 7, 2013 9:14:09 GMT
Also why play a bowling all-rounder instead of a batsman?! Our batting is letting us down so they play Stokes who hit 1. Surely Gary Ballance would have been the better option!!
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Post by harrysburrow on Dec 7, 2013 9:33:20 GMT
Also why play a bowling all-rounder instead of a batsman?! Our batting is letting us down so they play Stokes who hit 1. Surely Gary Ballance would have been the better option!! They played a bowling all rounder and brought back Panesar mate! Having said that, Stokes has looked promising with the ball and Monty showed some grit when batting with Bell? Trott's gone home, Cook and Pietersen got nowt between them and Prior is absolutely shitting himself. (Not just facing Johnson, he can't play Lyon either). Anderson looks like a lippy school kid, whose been gobbling off in the playground but now the big boys are back. Swann looks ordinary and I'm not sure what Root is doing? Bell and Broad are the only ones really looking the part - Not good folks.
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 7, 2013 9:34:19 GMT
We have caved in to Aussie bullying yet again.
These guys better kick themselves up the arse because nothing short of five nil we satisfy the Aussies.
Back to lame excuses of a team again.
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Post by huuuuuth on Dec 7, 2013 9:48:30 GMT
Looks like Botham's prediction of 5-nil looks quite good Not sure if he meant FOR the convicts though
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 9:51:44 GMT
What do You call an Englishman that can handle a bat? A vet! Or Ian Bell, just to cheer You up! I will take that at the moment mate ......anything
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 9:56:44 GMT
I certainly don't think he would have played such poor shots that Root and the Ego maniac played .... Well he couldn't do any worse that the shambles served up so far this series. I think shambles is putting it mildly mate , last night was beyond that I'm afraid , hard even for me to feel upbeat
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 10:49:56 GMT
Well he couldn't do any worse that the shambles served up so far this series. I think shambles is putting it mildly mate , last night was beyond that I'm afraid , hard even for me to feel upbeat I didn't stay up for it all (who would!) but it was embarrassing to watch. Everyone should hang there head in shame apart from Bell and Carberry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 11:09:51 GMT
I think shambles is putting it mildly mate , last night was beyond that I'm afraid , hard even for me to feel upbeat I didn't stay up for it all (who would!) but it was embarrassing to watch. Everyone should hang there head in shame apart from Bell and Carberry. Even I am hanging my head in shame ......and I was only watching , so disappointing ....at least it will put a smile on Gods face though
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Post by harrysburrow on Dec 7, 2013 12:30:48 GMT
Looks like they'll have a bat in the morning, give Scrappy Do his ton and then give us about 5 and a half sessions to survive? Can Atherton still play?
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 7, 2013 12:36:15 GMT
Fooking embarrasment yellow bellied tossers should be ashamed of themselves!
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Post by Gods on Dec 7, 2013 13:37:27 GMT
I didn't stay up for it all (who would!) but it was embarrassing to watch. Everyone should hang there head in shame apart from Bell and Carberry. Even I am hanging my head in shame ......and I was only watching , so disappointing ....at least it will put a smile on Gods face though Certainly not Bisp. It gives me no pleasure to say I warned of this impending debacle before the dust had settled on the summer tour. Actually the fiasco began with the series of 1 day internationals which followed the last test series in the English summer which no one watched, the rain partially ruined and the England team queued up to avoid taking part in. You won't find many people who even know who won that fated series. For what it's worth I think the governing bodies of cricket have simply been too greedy gumming these tours together back to back with that one day series in between and trying to cash in while interest in the ashes is hot. England have had no time to savor their summer victory and identify areas of weakness and regroup and refresh. And cricket fans have lost the novelty of the ashes in the authorities rush to trouser wheelbarrows full of bank notes. These tours used to be every 4 years right, so 2 years in between each series here and Australia. That makes far more sense, maintains novelty and excitement and prevents the kind of burn/melt down we are seeing here.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 7, 2013 14:15:19 GMT
Even I am hanging my head in shame ......and I was only watching , so disappointing ....at least it will put a smile on Gods face though Certainly not Bisp. It gives me no pleasure to say I warned of this impending debacle before the dust had settled on the summer tour. Actually the fiasco began with the series of 1 day internationals which followed the last test series in the English summer which no one watched, the rain partially ruined and the England team queued up to avoid taking part in. You won't find many people who even know who won that fated series. For what it's worth I think the governing bodies of cricket have simply been too greedy gumming these tours together back to back with that one day series in between and trying to cash in while interest in the ashes is hot. England have had no time to savor their summer victory and identify areas of weakness and regroup and refresh. And cricket fans have lost the novelty of the ashes in the authorities rush to trouser wheelbarrows full of bank notes. These tours used to be every 4 years right, so 2 years in between each series here and Australia. That makes far more sense, maintains novelty and excitement and prevents the kind of burn/melt down we are seeing here. First major warning sign was early 2012 in the UAE v Pakistan when in three tests we didn't score more than 400 runs in any test (that is combined 1st and 2nd innings totals). From that series on we have batted poorly apart from some occasional great knocks and excepting Ian Bell. This shit batting has been putting more and more pressure on our bowlers who have generally been excellent but are now showing signs of wear and tear. I think we are seeing the downside of a consistent selection policy. Too many players knowing they won't be dropped removes some vital edge from their game. Prior being a case in point; Trott another and though I hesitate to say it because they've generally been excellent, Anderson and Swan seem to be suffering from this malaise. This series is in danger of turning into a bigger disaster than 2006/7 - at least on that occasion we were playing an excellent Aussie side.
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Post by greenhoff74 on Dec 7, 2013 14:30:51 GMT
Looks like Botham's prediction of 5-nil looks quite good Not sure if he meant FOR the convicts though Shane Warne is taking the piss out of Botham on Twitter about that right now, says 5-0 for the Aussies.
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Post by harrysburrow on Dec 7, 2013 15:48:04 GMT
He's had some stick lately, so you can't really blame him?
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Dec 7, 2013 16:12:59 GMT
That has reminded me why I should keep off this bloody thread. Well when out of your depth mate ........ You know what Bish not everybody enjoys being talked down to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 17:51:54 GMT
Well when out of your depth mate ........ You know what Bish not everybody enjoys being talked down to. I don't talk down to anyone Okie .....if that's how you perceive it I apologise , it's not intentional , however I will refrain from talking to you in the future in order to avoid further misunderstanding
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 17:56:26 GMT
Even I am hanging my head in shame ......and I was only watching , so disappointing ....at least it will put a smile on Gods face though Certainly not Bisp. It gives me no pleasure to say I warned of this impending debacle before the dust had settled on the summer tour. Actually the fiasco began with the series of 1 day internationals which followed the last test series in the English summer which no one watched, the rain partially ruined and the England team queued up to avoid taking part in. You won't find many people who even know who won that fated series. For what it's worth I think the governing bodies of cricket have simply been too greedy gumming these tours together back to back with that one day series in between and trying to cash in while interest in the ashes is hot. England have had no time to savor their summer victory and identify areas of weakness and regroup and refresh. And cricket fans have lost the novelty of the ashes in the authorities rush to trouser wheelbarrows full of bank notes. These tours used to be every 4 years right, so 2 years in between each series here and Australia. That makes far more sense, maintains novelty and excitement and prevents the kind of burn/melt down we are seeing here. Be prepared for the next instalment over here again in 2015 .....I still think you are having a quiet smirk at my expense.. ...fair enough , my back is broad enough to take it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 17:59:11 GMT
Looks like Botham's prediction of 5-nil looks quite good Not sure if he meant FOR the convicts though Shane Warne is taking the piss out of Botham on Twitter about that right now, says 5-0 for the Aussies. Shane Warne has deserved every bit of stick he's got mate ....he talks a load of garbage at times
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Post by sydneypotter on Dec 7, 2013 19:26:37 GMT
This is a weekend to remember.
TPM’s beating Chelsea. This result adding to the pleasure of the possible reemergence of the Baggy Greens as a reliable Test Nation.
Mitch Johnson’s 7/40 yesterday shoots him up the all time Australian bowling charts by quite a long way. His performance, linked to the improved on the field test maturity of Davey Warner, has started to reestablish Australian pride as a test-playing nation.
The appointment of Boof, as coach, has brought with it some of the characteristics that were lost under Mickey Arthur. He seems to have instilled confidence and pride in the cap back into the team. It’s difficult to see how this team could have lost the previous nine matches against England or that England could have been reduced to the dithering mess they were yesterday. OK, I know that one swallow doesn’t make a Spring and there is still a long way to go before the Little Urn is wrestled from the tight grasp of the English establishment, but we are showing some healthy signs of being able to do that at the moment.
Highlights of the day for me included the Warner catch off Carberry. It must go down as one of the series (to date) classic catches; a magnificent piece of cricket all round. Monty’s ball to Clark. Very similar to the ball that bowled Smith but served up to a renowned player of spin and beating him comprehensively. Smith didn’t move his feet too well but Clark thought he had it covered. Mitch Johnson’s continued return to form and the two hat-trick balls came close to being the highlight of the past three Ashes series for me. Not so much the balls but the ability to generate potential hat tricks was great cricket theatre.
Should Australia have enforced the follow-on? Who cares. It’s thought that Clark is saving his bowlers for Perth. If the victory comes in the next two days and they arrive in Perth fit and healthy then it will be a strategy well thought through. If England manage to get a draw from this match then undoubtedly Clark will be pilloried for not being ruthless enough. Only time will tell.
Today might be the day that the wicket starts to take even more spin. That will bring Monty and Swann into the equation, but hopefully not before Davey grabs his deserved century. Yes, I know that the English cricketing fans despise him, but his talent will be a force to be reckoned with in the coming years. (mark my words young Horace) His averages have been creeping up and in time will establish himself as a class batsman, not to mention a fine fieldsman. All that predicated on him not getting thrown into jail before he can do that of course. He’s not a bad spin bowler either. Now it’s onwards to the fourth day with the hope that Johnson can retain his ‘mojo’ and Lyons plays his part as our lonely spinner.
Go TMP’s and of course the Baggy Greens.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 7, 2013 19:28:53 GMT
Second chance now to show some guts. We can still draw this if they have the belief, it's time to man up, dig in and give our selves a chance in this series.
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