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Post by harrysburrow on Oct 14, 2013 21:48:10 GMT
I hope the programme triggers some memory in someone that turns out to be crucial, but the new investigations are hardly a revelation are they? As redstriper says, the previous dodgy Tanner lead is now maybe, almost certainly dodgy? Hopefully the other lead may turn out to be important, but I went to Largos a couple of months ago and there were many many blokes in their 30's carry young children around in the evenings? It may well be the guilt or overwhelming grief that they feel, but there's something that doesn't feel right to me about the McCanns?
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Oct 14, 2013 21:49:08 GMT
48 questions kate mccann and all answered 'no comment'.
Cadaver dogs signal signs of a corpse in the wardrobe, the car and the parents clothes.
Mccanns claim bedroom window was forced open yet hotel maintainence say there were no signs of forced entry.
The parents have changed their story repeatedly.
Strange how this new evidence with all the BBC heart string pulling bollocks comes about while their libel trial is going on in Portugal, which will be their undoing.
The police in Portugal didnt fuck it up, they got it spot on and knew exactly who was to blame. It is the BBC, media and Met Police who have fucked it up.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 14, 2013 21:51:38 GMT
Where was Dave Payne in the reconstruction
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Post by padders01 on Oct 14, 2013 21:54:03 GMT
Where was Dave Payne in the reconstruction Who is he?
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Post by salopstick on Oct 14, 2013 21:55:32 GMT
Salop, I'm not saying it's right, but how many parents have left their kids unattended? It used to be quite common for parents to leave kids in the car whilst they were in the pub!!! The only people who screwed this operation up were the Portuguese police. They should have allowed British detectives in right away. I dread to think what's happened to her. Heartbreaking stuff. If I was neglectful as a parent I wouldn't be the publicity whores they've become Their lies have spun out of control
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 14, 2013 22:09:21 GMT
48 questions kate mccann and all answered 'no comment'. Cadaver dogs signal signs of a corpse in the wardrobe, the car and the parents clothes. Mccanns claim bedroom window was forced open yet hotel maintainence say there were no signs of forced entry. The parents have changed their story repeatedly. Strange how this new evidence with all the BBC heart string pulling bollocks comes about while their libel trial is going on in Portugal, which will be their undoing. The police in Portugal didnt fuck it up, they got it spot on and knew exactly who was to blame. It is the BBC, media and Met Police who have fucked it up. yep, the Portuguese police asked all the right questions... they chose not to answer them.
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Post by starkiller on Oct 14, 2013 22:16:06 GMT
48 questions kate mccann and all answered 'no comment'. Cadaver dogs signal signs of a corpse in the wardrobe, the car and the parents clothes. Mccanns claim bedroom window was forced open yet hotel maintainence say there were no signs of forced entry. The parents have changed their story repeatedly. Strange how this new evidence with all the BBC heart string pulling bollocks comes about while their libel trial is going on in Portugal, which will be their undoing. The police in Portugal didnt fuck it up, they got it spot on and knew exactly who was to blame. It is the BBC, media and Met Police who have fucked it up. Correct. From day one, why so much support from the establishment for this pair? And actively smearing the Portuguese police? Another horrendous piece of BBC whitewashing/propaganda. What have this pair done to be assured of such unwavering backing? 30 secs in to the BBC report and shaking her head in disbelief, Kirsty Young said 'there were even, at one point accusations that her own parents were to blame'. Really? Given all the facts, how could anyone possibly think they had anything to do with it!
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Post by salopstick on Oct 14, 2013 22:22:23 GMT
Q – Did you fear that you might lose custody over Sean and Amelie because your behaviour was considered to be negligent? Gerry – We were not negligent, we did what any reasonable parent would do. But we deeply regret what happened, because in our action, someone saw an opportunity to take Madeleine. I'm an optimistic person. I never thought that something like this could happen. www.mccannfiles.com/id163.htmlCunt
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 22:32:12 GMT
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Post by therethere on Oct 14, 2013 22:35:52 GMT
48 questions kate mccann and all answered 'no comment'. Cadaver dogs signal signs of a corpse in the wardrobe, the car and the parents clothes. Mccanns claim bedroom window was forced open yet hotel maintainence say there were no signs of forced entry. The parents have changed their story repeatedly. Strange how this new evidence with all the BBC heart string pulling bollocks comes about while their libel trial is going on in Portugal, which will be their undoing. The police in Portugal didnt fuck it up, they got it spot on and knew exactly who was to blame. It is the BBC, media and Met Police who have fucked it up. Fucking bang on Yorkshire The whole abduction theory ???? Why at the very least havent these Twats been done for neglect ? Were the cadavar dogs wrong ? WHY NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS TO HELP THE INVESTIGATION ? I could go on all night. As someone mentioned earlier in this thread. Smoke and Mirrors - it has been all along. I do hope youre right Yorkshire and this libel trial is their undoing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 22:48:21 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Oct 14, 2013 23:18:56 GMT
This libel case is going to go the way of the ok Simpson civil case
The book is not based on lies and innuendo it's based on the the Portuguese police investigation
Britains policy not to liaise with their Portuguese counterparts hasn't gone down well nor has the mccanns behaviour. The libel laws in Portugal are different. The mccanns will not get much sympathy and I'd be surprised if they win.
The mccanns have spent most of the maddie fund on their own legal expenses, it's a private company not a charity
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Post by cartman123 on Oct 15, 2013 1:14:58 GMT
Just watched this. Interesting.
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Post by britsabroad on Oct 15, 2013 5:23:12 GMT
Parents! What about the CHILD! I agree mate but its a terrible situation for them as well surely? Aye. Must be terrible trying to remember what you said in your statements to the police 6 years ago.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 15, 2013 6:30:20 GMT
I hope the programme triggers some memory in someone that turns out to be crucial, but the new investigations are hardly a revelation are they? As redstriper says, the previous dodgy Tanner lead is now maybe, almost certainly dodgy? Hopefully the other lead may turn out to be important, but I went to Largos a couple of months ago and there were many many blokes in their 30's carry young children around in the evenings? It may well be the guilt or overwhelming grief that they feel, but there's something that doesn't feel right to me about the McCanns? The new lead isn't new though Harry. The Irish family"s sighting is covered in the banned book "Truth of the Lie". In fact the father said that when he saw film footage of the McCann's getting off a plane on their return to uk after Maddies disappearance, he said that Gerry McCann was standing at the top of the airplane steps to disembark he looked identical to the sighting in Portugal. Even the way he was holding one of the twins. There is nothing new in last nights programme and as stated by earlier poster, it's the BBC and British police that have fucked up the investigation not the Portugese..
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 15, 2013 6:49:36 GMT
Is it possible that this new effort by the Met is aimed at flushing the McCann's out?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 7:25:06 GMT
Is it possible that this new effort by the Met is aimed at flushing the McCann's out? I was thinking/hoping this
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Post by britsabroad on Oct 15, 2013 7:45:03 GMT
My personal take is that they went out for their dinner, left the kids alone far too long and when they came back found Maddie had met her demise in some relatively innocuous way, but one which would have left the blame squarely with them, and they've been desperately trying to cover their tracks ever since. I really don't think she was abducted by anyone.
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Oct 15, 2013 8:13:24 GMT
My personal take is that they went out for their dinner, left the kids alone far too long and when they came back found Maddie had met her demise in some relatively innocuous way, but one which would have left the blame squarely with them, and they've been desperately trying to cover their tracks ever since. I really don't think she was abducted by anyone. Im pretty sure there was some proof that they sedated the kids so they didnt wake while the parents were off on the piss with dodgy dave and co. Theyre now saying she asked them that morning where they were when her and one of the twins woke up and they were out. This adds weight to the theory that they upped the dosage and fucked up by giving her too much. I think the police have been onto them for ages and are playing along until they drop themselves in it as they dont have enough to secure a conviction in a case this big. Hopefully thats why theyre ignoring the cadaver dogs, shit statements and blatent lies rather than them being totally useless.
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Post by yamfan on Oct 15, 2013 8:14:23 GMT
My view is, whatever happened to that poor little girl, her parents are squarely to blame. They left three kids unattended in that apartment just to go out and eat with friends. They were hardly a family living on the breadline, they should have employed a babysitter to watch over those kids, and if not able to get one, stayed in and rescheduled their night out at a time they had one. They are 100% negligent, now those twins have to live with this, and poor Maddie too if by some chance she is alive. How they can insist they've done nothing wrong by those kids, I just can't comprehend. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd never put a night out before the safety and security of my kids. I hope those twins absolutely hammer their parents as soon as they're old enough to understand what they did, those two deserve it in my opinion.
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Post by cheeseandbeans on Oct 15, 2013 8:23:55 GMT
That first efit looks an awful lot like Gerry McCann
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Oct 15, 2013 9:58:23 GMT
My personal take is that they went out for their dinner, left the kids alone far too long and when they came back found Maddie had met her demise in some relatively innocuous way, but one which would have left the blame squarely with them, and they've been desperately trying to cover their tracks ever since. I really don't think she was abducted by anyone. Theyre now saying she asked them that morning where they were when her and one of the twins woke up and they were out. This adds weight to the theory that they upped the dosage and fucked up by giving her too much. I was actually stunned when she mentioned that Madeline had asked where they were the night before when she & one of the twins were crying. She went on about how terrible they felt... then they went and left them alone that very next night!!! They make it impossible for me to have any sympathy for them!
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Post by salopstick on Oct 15, 2013 10:28:02 GMT
My view is, whatever happened to that poor little girl, her parents are squarely to blame. They left three kids unattended in that apartment just to go out and eat with friends. They were hardly a family living on the breadline, they should have employed a babysitter to watch over those kids, and if not able to get one, stayed in and rescheduled their night out at a time they had one. They are 100% negligent, now those twins have to live with this, and poor Maddie too if by some chance she is alive. How they can insist they've done nothing wrong by those kids, I just can't comprehend. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd never put a night out before the safety and security of my kids. I hope those twins absolutely hammer their parents as soon as they're old enough to understand what they did, those two deserve it in my opinion. what goes largely unnoticed, was only briefly mentioned last night was the fact every night they left those three kids the parents are cunts, maddie didnt deserve parents like them
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Post by Gods on Oct 15, 2013 11:19:08 GMT
Grown men whipping themselves up in to a frenzy of innuendo, supposition and frankly just plain make belief on this thread is nothing short of laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 11:50:45 GMT
I'm not a big believer of any conspiracy. Just two parents who made a selfish choice and are paying the price.
Two things struck me though as a bit odd about last night's Crimewatch.
1. The way she hangs on Gerry's every word..watching him intently as he speaks. If there's someone sat in front of you, asking questions, I think you'd naturally be acknowledging the third person in that scenario. She paid more attention to him, which I thought was unnatural.
2. She says she went back to the apartment at 10.00pm to check on the children. Her attention was drawn to the fact that the bedroom door was more ajar than it should have been. When she went to pull it to, the wind took it, and it slammed. Only then did she stick her head into the bedroom to find Maddie missing.
I'd have thought that the first thing she would have done would be to look in the room; but she suggested that she was pulling the door to, having not first looked into the bedroom? Isn't that the whole purpose for going back to the apartment, to stick your head around the door and check that all was OK??
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Post by JudgeMental on Oct 15, 2013 12:08:07 GMT
I'm not a big believer of any conspiracy. Just two parents who made a selfish choice and are paying the price. Two things struck me though as a bit odd about last night's Crimewatch. 1. The way she hangs on Gerry's every word..watching him intently as he speaks. If there's someone sat in front of you, asking questions, I think you'd naturally be acknowledging the third person in that scenario. She paid more attention to him, which I thought was unnatural. 2. She says she went back to the apartment at 10.00pm to check on the children. Her attention was drawn to the fact that the bedroom door was more ajar than it should have been. When she went to pull it to, the wind took it, and it slammed. Only then did she stick her head into the bedroom to find Maddie missing. I'd have thought that the first thing she would have done would be to look in the room; but she suggested that she was pulling the door to, having not first looked into the bedroom? Isn't that the whole purpose for going back to the apartment, to stick your head around the door and check that all was OK?? Kate McCann always looks like someone who is truly living at the frayed ends of sanity - for whatever reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 12:35:04 GMT
Where was Dave Payne in the reconstruction I thought that
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Post by serpico on Oct 15, 2013 12:54:32 GMT
I'm failing to understand the point of airing this crime watch episode in the UK, and why now ? surely it should have been aired in Portugal ? why was it aired at all ? how many people don't already know about this case ? it's perpetually been in the news for 6 years straight! everyone knows the story of how the alleged abduction happened and other efits were issues 5 years ago.
Also, can you remember someone you saw on holiday from 6 years ago ? they say they've had one thousand calls as a result of the crime watch episode, but how many of them are old biddies ringing in saying "he looks like frank who lives down my street" ?.
I'd love to know what happened to her, and see her reunited with her family, but the whole thing is one big media circus now, politicians and the police probably just see it as good PR and the McCanns are being willingly used to these ends.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Oct 15, 2013 12:55:11 GMT
Grown men whipping themselves up in to a frenzy of innuendo, supposition and frankly just plain make belief on this thread is nothing short of laughable. This. The whole thing's a tragedy no-matter what the truth, but it's almost as if some posters are personally involved. Strange.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 12:58:49 GMT
I met / bumped into loads of people on holiday in August, almost daily. If I saw any of the again today, I wouldn't recognise a good proportion of them.
So a potentially innocuous sighting of someone, as a one-off, 7 years ago? Nah...
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