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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 7:49:06 GMT
....I cant help but wonder though if there is some method in his madness.
Most of the fans I have seen in the news and the few Sunderland fans I know are happy he his getting some rules about right/wrong in the club. He is a refreshing change and is at least entertaining and is not full of the usual stereotypes and cliches.
Its not PDC now....he is what he is.....they got what they employed.......Sunderland fans need to make a choice....back PDC and send a message to the players, or go for the quick points and back to the old ways of appeasing the leeches taking the money and taking the piss. Its make your mind up time, I don't think they can have both.
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Post by Fred Astaire on Sept 22, 2013 8:16:18 GMT
The sad thing is that he has fucked it up so quickly and so dramatically that by time we play them in Movember he will be long gone and they'll no doubt be playing well
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Post by scfc5 on Sept 22, 2013 8:20:17 GMT
The sad thing is that he has fucked it up so quickly and so dramatically that by time we play them in Movember he will be long gone and they'll no doubt be playing well Question is, can anyone get a tune out of such a randomly-assembled bunch of misfits?
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Post by minnierover on Sept 22, 2013 8:25:19 GMT
Selling his best player, Sessignon, to a prem rival was suicide. Sessignon is one of the most magical players in this division, yes he infuriates but most highly talented players do. Really think Sessignon would have been perfect for us, he reminds me of Fuller. He's sold the match winner and kept the dross like gardener, cattermole,and tried to replace him with the likes of Borini, the l'pool reject who got subbed after an hour yesterday. PDC is surely on way out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 8:30:14 GMT
I wouldn't mind so much if the poor unfortunate was actually making any sense. If I was a Blunderland fan and watched/listened to this, I'd be scared to death for the rest of this season www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24089796(not the video at the top, with him chatting with Blunderland fans, but the one half way down the page), 4.5 minutes and I don't think I understood more than 3 sentences. And it's not just his accent either! What is he on about? Anyone correctly guessing the meaning of more than eight sentences, gets a week's free pass to mumf's static caravan in Abersoch
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Post by metalhead on Sept 22, 2013 8:33:45 GMT
Don't care what anyone says, I reckon if Tony was given the job NOW not at Christmas, so he had time to work with the players he'd keep them up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 9:13:29 GMT
I wouldn't mind so much if the poor unfortunate was actually making any sense. If I was a Blunderland fan and watched/listened to this, I'd be scared to death for the rest of this season www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24089796(not the video at the top, with him chatting with Blunderland fans, but the one half way down the page), 4.5 minutes and I don't think I understood more than 3 sentences. And it's not just his accent either! What is he on about? Anyone correctly guessing the meaning of more than eight sentences, gets a week's free pass to mumf's static caravan in Abersoch I think you are being very harsh. I understood all of that (I will pass on Abersoch if thats OK, no offence like Mumf!)....I kinda of liked what he said, that its ok to go to the fans and take the applause when you win and they sing your name, but sometimes you need to look at the fans in the eye when you have not performed. Fair play. He said he understood the fans and if he was in the crowd he would be just as angry, if not more. He said his standards are high, that he wont change and lower his standards and the board, the fans and the players need to understand that. That his ex-player scored because he was left unmarked in the box, and that is what he needs to be concerned about. This is not a dig, I am am interested, with regards to what he actually said, what do people disagree with. I cant find a single fault with any of it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 10:41:10 GMT
The last 3 managers have delivered lousy football and poor results , pulis will at least build a solid team and will on occasions deliver good football . Some of their fans have delusions of grandeur Will he though? He did neither in the last 2 years of his career. Right or wrong you will see fans who would prefer the drop than have every weekend ruined with atrocious football.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 22, 2013 10:57:39 GMT
At Swindon his mad scientist eccentric style worked. BUT at the top level you can't be erratic with players. They are top flight players and you can't treat them like shit. It's a similar situation to Brian Clough going to Leeds
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 12:24:42 GMT
... He said his standards are high, that he wont change and lower his standards and the board, the fans and the players need to understand that. ... Think about what this means. The board needs to know he has high standards.WTF? The players need to know he has high standards.Eh? What, is he saying he thinks they all waiting for him to turn up in a blue track suit, shouting, Four, four f**king two!, but that he's not going to lower himself (or grow a beard)?! The fans need to know he has high standards.I reckon they'd be happier with a few more points and a lot, lot less bollox. He's just talking out of his 4rse. It's all meaningless babble. Has high standards my feckin' 'arris. He's the nutter who sold half of the old squad that kept them up, then bought in a shed load of, according to him, weak characters, and then wonders why they are getting d1cked every week. If he'd inherited the squad I'd have some sympathy. Then he could be waffling on about his high standards while bemoaning the weak and presumably workman like squad he'd been left with. But he fookin' bought it! At Swindon his mad scientist eccentric style worked. BUT at the top level you can't be erratic with players. They are top flight players and you can't treat them like shit. It's a similar situation to Brian Clough going to Leeds Too right it is, Joe. Clough said, my standards are high, I wont change and lower my standards and the board, the fans and the players need to understand that.It wouldn't have been any surprise to hear the great man saying exactly that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 14:47:24 GMT
... He said his standards are high, that he wont change and lower his standards and the board, the fans and the players need to understand that. ... Think about what this means. The board needs to know he has high standards.WTF? The players need to know he has high standards.Eh? What, is he saying he thinks they all waiting for him to turn up in a blue track suit, shouting, Four, four f**king two!, but that he's not going to lower himself (or grow a beard)?! The fans need to know he has high standards.I reckon they'd be happier with a few more points and a lot, lot less bollox. He's just talking out of his 4rse. It's all meaningless babble. Has high standards my feckin' 'arris. He's the nutter who sold half of the old squad that kept them up, then bought in a shed load of, according to him, weak characters, and then wonders why they are getting d1cked every week. If he'd inherited the squad I'd have some sympathy. Then he could be waffling on about his high standards while bemoaning the weak and presumably workman like squad he'd been left with. But he fookin' bought it! At Swindon his mad scientist eccentric style worked. BUT at the top level you can't be erratic with players. They are top flight players and you can't treat them like shit. It's a similar situation to Brian Clough going to Leeds Too right it is, Joe. Clough said, my standards are high, I wont change and lower my standards and the board, the fans and the players need to understand that.It wouldn't have been any surprise to hear the great man saying exactly that. But what is wrong with that....was kinda my point. What is wrong with what he said? I agree that he is a nutter (I dont think he would get away with how he treats people in any form of traditional employed life), and I am glad we dont have him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 15:09:45 GMT
But what is wrong with that....was kinda my point. What is wrong with what he said? I agree that he is a nutter (I dont think he would get away with how he treats people in any form of traditional employed life), and I am glad we dont have him. It depends what you mean by wrong? I guess there's nothing, technically, wrong with it ... because it's meaningless babble. Why have the board, or the fans ... nevermind the players, got to understand he has high standards? What's that got to do with either that match or the season so far? He's certifible; in a long gone, much kinder age, someone would have phoned for the green van yonks ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 15:13:10 GMT
But what is wrong with that....was kinda my point. What is wrong with what he said? I agree that he is a nutter (I dont think he would get away with how he treats people in any form of traditional employed life), and I am glad we dont have him. It depends what you mean by wrong? I guess there's nothing, technically, wrong with it ... because it's meaningless babble. Why have the board, or the fans ... nevermind the players, got to understand he has high standards? What's that got to do with either that match or the season so far? He's certifiable; in a long gone, much kinder age, someone would have phoned for the green van yonks ago. It has a lot to do with Sunderland, there has been a culture of players taking the piss....taking the money and not showing up for the manager/fans. To us its a load of bollocks as .. it should go without saying. But it does need saying up there as it is a real problem he is trying to get to grips with.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 15:24:27 GMT
It depends what you mean by wrong? I guess there's nothing, technically, wrong with it ... because it's meaningless babble. Why have the board, or the fans ... nevermind the players, got to understand he has high standards? What's that got to do with either that match or the season so far? He's certifiable; in a long gone, much kinder age, someone would have phoned for the green van yonks ago. It has a lot to do with Sunderland, there has been a culture of players taking the piss....taking the money and not showing up for the manager/fans. To us its a load of bollocks as .. it should go without saying. But it does need saying up there as it is a real problem he is trying to get to grips with. And babbling incoherent nonsense and acting like a loon isn't help him get that message - whatever it is - across. It's all about him. He's a bigger drama queen than Arsehole Wenger.
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Post by stokemanusa on Sept 22, 2013 15:32:33 GMT
"chin up" DiCanio like all the other facist twats.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 16:30:07 GMT
It has a lot to do with Sunderland, there has been a culture of players taking the piss....taking the money and not showing up for the manager/fans. To us its a load of bollocks as .. it should go without saying. But it does need saying up there as it is a real problem he is trying to get to grips with. And babbling incoherent nonsense and acting like a loon isn't help him get that message - whatever it is - across. It's all about him. He's a bigger drama queen than Arsehole Wenger. Think we will have to agree to disagree on that fact its nonsense and incoherent. However acting like a loon...there is no defense for the guy! Its a shame, there is definitely a spark in him and I can 100% how he COULD be successful, but his talents are going to wasted by his arrogance.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 22, 2013 16:30:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 16:35:00 GMT
My amazement at the all too quick recognition of the massive mistake the board have made, will only be surpassed by my disappointment. PLI NBT And OK Gav
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 16:35:52 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 22, 2013 16:50:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 20:37:06 GMT
....I cant help but wonder though if there is some method in his madness. Most of the fans I have seen in the news and the few Sunderland fans I know are happy he his getting some rules about right/wrong in the club. He is a refreshing change and is at least entertaining and is not full of the usual stereotypes and cliches. Its not PDC now....he is what he is.....they got what they employed.......Sunderland fans need to make a choice....back PDC and send a message to the players, or go for the quick points and back to the old ways of appeasing the leeches taking the money and taking the piss. Its make your mind up time, I don't think they can have both. Looks like the choice has been made. Back to square 1 for Sunderland!! Players 1 - Managers 0 This is gonna be fun watching where this ends up!!
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Post by wembley1972 on Sept 22, 2013 20:58:44 GMT
Sack PDC install TP and we can off load SJW in January, then watch TP shouting gowaaarn Jon to a player in red and white stripes again without cringing!
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