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Post by ginkgo on Sept 2, 2013 22:53:16 GMT
to Wigan apparently.
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Post by kingstokie on Sept 2, 2013 22:53:39 GMT
on loan
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Post by padders01 on Sept 2, 2013 22:54:13 GMT
Yep defo gone
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Post by Jimm on Sept 2, 2013 22:55:43 GMT
I wonder where he'll play, i still don't know his primary position, rb?
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Post by AlanHansen on Sept 2, 2013 22:56:44 GMT
Shotton has obvious limitations and this move is probably a good one for him. It however leaves us even lighter for cover at the back.
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Post by Bombus on Sept 2, 2013 22:57:20 GMT
Good luck, Shotts!
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Post by philm87 on Sept 2, 2013 22:58:54 GMT
Wilko, Cameron and Wilson can all do a decent enough job at RB.
We also have that 19 year-old Gomez bloke we signed the other day. He's a right-back and is said to be hoping to win a few appearances in the first team I think
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 2, 2013 23:00:47 GMT
Shotton has obvious limitations and this move is probably a good one for him. It however leaves us even lighter for cover at the back. Could turn out to be a very shortsighted move this. It's vital that Wilson stays fit as he's now our main defensive cover. Shame to have to move him though as he's starting to find his feet in midfield- and Palacios is the cover for his position *gulp* People might not rate Shotton (I think he's OK personally) but it only takes a couple of injuries and we'll be absolutely fucked in defence.
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Post by AlanHansen on Sept 2, 2013 23:01:06 GMT
Wilko, Cameron and Wilson can all do a decent enough job at RB. We also have that 19 year-old Gomez bloke we signed the other day. He's a right-back and is said to be hoping to win a few appearances in the first team I think Phil, Along with the relatively small Muniesa those 3 are also our cover at centre back. Not ideal.
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Post by Han Solo on Sept 2, 2013 23:03:58 GMT
In the end we have to balance the books were not QPR. With the FairPlay system we have to loan out a few or we risk a points deduction.
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Post by philm87 on Sept 2, 2013 23:05:10 GMT
Wilko, Cameron and Wilson can all do a decent enough job at RB. We also have that 19 year-old Gomez bloke we signed the other day. He's a right-back and is said to be hoping to win a few appearances in the first team I think Phil, Along with the relatively small Muniesa those 3 are also our cover at centre back. Not ideal. Not ideal but if both Ryan and Huthy and our first choice RB were all injured at the same time we would be very unlucky.
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Post by Han Solo on Sept 2, 2013 23:05:16 GMT
Wilko, Cameron and Wilson can all do a decent enough job at RB. We also have that 19 year-old Gomez bloke we signed the other day. He's a right-back and is said to be hoping to win a few appearances in the first team I think Phil, Along with the relatively small Muniesa those 3 are also our cover at centre back. Not ideal. Doesn't Pieters play at CB too. We could play him there and put Muniesa at LB
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Post by AlanHansen on Sept 2, 2013 23:09:32 GMT
Phil, Along with the relatively small Muniesa those 3 are also our cover at centre back. Not ideal. Doesn't Pieters play at CB too. We could play him there and put Muniesa at LB Pieters would be a liability at centre back. As too would Cameron be at this level. Wilson is probably our best cover option, best of a bad bunch of options.
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Post by philm87 on Sept 2, 2013 23:09:39 GMT
Phil, Along with the relatively small Muniesa those 3 are also our cover at centre back. Not ideal. Doesn't Pieters play at CB too. We could play him there and put Muniesa at LB Yeah forgot about that. He says he's played there a couple of times. I'm not convinced myself but we would be in a pretty desperate situation if it came to that anyway.
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Post by Jimm on Sept 2, 2013 23:12:35 GMT
He's only gone until Januray 2nd
BBC Sport ?@bbcsport 2m Stoke City confirm Ryan Shotton has joined Wigan on loan until January 2
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Sept 2, 2013 23:14:53 GMT
He's a much better player than Stokies give him credit for
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Post by usastokie on Sept 2, 2013 23:20:55 GMT
AlanHansen I think your comment about Cameron being a liability is absurd. He has played centre back for his country (currently ranked #19 in the world) on various occasions. In fact he has more international caps than most of our team (4 less than Shea incidentally). To say that he can't play at this level is ridiculous.... Unless you think stoke city vs hull is a higher standard than USA vs Brazil, Mexico etc., etc.
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Post by block27row27 on Sept 2, 2013 23:23:05 GMT
Called this a week ago
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Post by AlanHansen on Sept 2, 2013 23:28:23 GMT
You're entitled to your opinion. I'm not entirely sure Cameron is good enough for this level at all, the jury is still out for me.
He's done ok at RB in some games, in others not so good. He too often for me loses possession and also he's not the best in positioning himself. You can't get away with that in the middle. Not to mention he's no Huth or Shawcross in the air.
Hopefully he's got it in him to nail the RB spot, other than that perhaps he'll get a chance some time to see what he can do in midfield. Two managers now though appear not to fancy him there.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 2, 2013 23:34:03 GMT
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Sept 2, 2013 23:35:05 GMT
AlanHansen I think your comment about Cameron being a liability is absurd. He has played centre back for his country (currently ranked #19 in the world) on various occasions. In fact he has more international caps than most of our team (4 less than Shea incidentally). To say that he can't play at this level is ridiculous.... Unless you think stoke city vs hull is a higher standard than USA vs Brazil, Mexico etc., etc. Absolutely spot on. Sad to say, the anti-American sentiments of some posters tends to cloud their judgment. What people tend to overlook is that Geoff Cameron is blessed with a footballing brain, unlike Shotton and Wilkinson. And with the emphasis now being on football, it is self-evident that Cameron is ahead of those two and deservedly so.
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Post by greenbaize on Sept 2, 2013 23:40:16 GMT
Good luck Ryan
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Post by fisty lizard on Sept 2, 2013 23:52:20 GMT
Another European Tour for the guy, seemed to be more effective in the European games than the league
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Post by mark71 on Sept 3, 2013 5:02:46 GMT
We've survived without any fullbacks for the last 10 years so "only" having 3 at our disposal now is a luxury.
I'm glad Shotton has gone. Another substandard player pinching a living in the premiership. Hopefully by the end of the season Hughes will rid this club of the rest of the over paid dross Pulis has lumbered us with.
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Post by jeycov on Sept 3, 2013 7:10:08 GMT
But we have the finances to get a permanent replacement for him in january?
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Post by bingbang on Sept 3, 2013 7:11:31 GMT
Bang on
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 7:43:56 GMT
He's a much better player than Stokies give him credit for Is he really
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Sept 3, 2013 8:02:45 GMT
He's a much better player than Stokies give him credit for Is he really Vety solid right back, if he had played all his Stoke career at right back we would all be raving about him, bht the fact he was made to look silly on the the wkngbhe as been judged by too many its no surprise that there were a host of (looking for promotion) championship and bottom half premiership looking to sign him
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 8:12:20 GMT
Is he really Vety solid right back, if he had played all his Stoke career at right back we would all be raving about him, bht the fact he was made to look silly on the the wkngbhe as been judged by too many its no surprise that there were a host of (looking for promotion) championship and bottom half premiership looking to sign him The next Gareth Bale (Pulis ), surprised top clubs were not in this host of potential suitors, Shotton started out as an attacking player so all this bull about him been hung out to dry as an attacking player does not excuse his poor performances in an attacking role, maybe he will prove many Stokies wrong but I feel he is not a Premiere player and Hughes has identified this and offloaded asap, hopefully Walters will be the next one.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 3, 2013 8:13:55 GMT
Hope we get better than £85m for him if it's made perm as he's a better winger than Bale you know,
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