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Post by YounginStoke on Aug 24, 2013 19:50:04 GMT
How about first getting rid of the largely ineffective Walters who, I believe, hardly touched the ball? Just a thought. I'm not his biggest fan at all, but thought he played well today, one of our better performers
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 24, 2013 19:55:12 GMT
I'd cash in on both and Walters as well if we could but truth is no one wants em except lower league clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:56:47 GMT
This guy is shocking, the deterioration of him since his arrival is despairing. The logic was that a four year contract was ok because he doesn't rely on pace and that we'd get 4 years out of him. Since his teeth got knocked out he has been terrible. Seems more interested in his hair than getting stuck in. Shocking to think we have paid the best part of 20 million for him. We should snap off QPRs hands just to get him off the bill. Chamack showed him up today and that tells you everything you need to know. Yeah,great idea,lets get rid of Crouch and stick the ever dependable Jones up there in his place. Sometimes his little flicks that don't come off can be frustrating,but play the ball to his feet and 99% of the time it sticks and he will bring others into play,he is one of the most intelligent players in our squad and is on a different wavelength sometimes to other players up and around him. Yes he has limitations which are glaringly obvious,but stick two players up alongside him with a bit of footballing nouse and pace in this system and he would be a massive asset to us as an attacking force. Out of all our problems as a football side,trust me,Peter Crouch is one of the least of our worries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:57:04 GMT
I thought he was very good today, and I can't stand him up top as the lone striker!
He won a lot more in the air than I expected against Jedinak (sp).
Though Ethers was very good today too, and I'm not a fan of him.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 24, 2013 21:28:09 GMT
He put in 110% effort and I cannot for one second fault him for that, though one particular passage of play stuck out for me in the second half.
We looked to break quickly on the counter attack and the ball was duly played in Crouch, who laid it off into the path Walters. Who then started to bare down on goal thus attracting the attention of full back and the centre half who had pulled out of position, and the simplest of balls into the middle would have seen a shot on goal and almost certainly a goal. Walters put a ball/cross in as any wide player would do expecting the middle man to pop up but Crouch was a good 10 yards at least behind Walters.
I thought Crouch played well though long term we can't afford to carry someone so slow and immobile for the rest of the season
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 0:19:52 GMT
I thought crouch did okay today, very unlucky not to bag a goal. The stats look bad in terms of goals to games recently but we can't forget about the service he had...or lack of it.
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Post by jonscfc1990 on Aug 25, 2013 0:22:52 GMT
Crouches effort on goal wasn't half bad with the header, but I think Crouch would really be suited as a pair upfront, and not on his own. But who am I to decide?
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Post by Sfance on Aug 25, 2013 1:05:16 GMT
"Dog awful" is kind. He is absolutely hopeless. Ever since he had his teeth knocked out (as someone already said). And I can't stand how he is always making out he's been fouled. He should've gone with that Pulis guy who bought him. They belong together.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Aug 25, 2013 1:19:50 GMT
I'd like to see Jones given a chance if I'm being honest.
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Post by discokaraoke on Aug 25, 2013 1:23:28 GMT
He also hit the cross bar and it was his header that created the first goal....... And it was a great bit of skill from Crouch! Crouch had a good game, just can not understand the dog awful a bit at all. Only thing dog awful from the game is pathetic threads like this!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 7:46:52 GMT
Working class hereo
plainly -you know absolutely nothing about association football
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 25, 2013 7:56:47 GMT
I'm just saying how I see it, he is not the same player he was. If it was Sunday league he'd be told to cut out the stupid flicks and do the simple things properly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 7:59:18 GMT
Working class hereo plainly -you know nothing absolutely about association football This has been obvious for a long time.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 25, 2013 8:01:32 GMT
Sorensen 82, the idiot who lost his village, keep looking son you'll find it one day
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 8:04:38 GMT
Sorensen 82, the idiot who lost his village, keep looking son you'll find it one day I think you already have son.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 25, 2013 8:05:19 GMT
Sorensen 82, the idiot who lost his village, keep looking son you'll find it one day Idiot.....hmmmmmmm. Crouch hits bar with a great header. Sets up equalizer with strength and presence. Ploughs a tough and lonely furrow on his own. But you think he's dog awful. Hmmmmmmm......idiot you say?
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 25, 2013 8:10:13 GMT
I would love to see someone more mobile and With more pace up front, but yesterday I thought Crouchy did OK.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 8:11:47 GMT
We dont have the luxury to play Crouch.
Any counter is cancelled out as he simply can't get on the end of it. His heading is poor, his movement non existent.I've never seen him turn his man and run at them. His shooting isn't all that great. Oh and he's a featherweight.
Only thing he does is control it and lay it off, not enough I'm afraid.
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Post by Han Solo on Aug 25, 2013 8:14:20 GMT
Sorensen 82, the idiot who lost his village, keep looking son you'll find it one day Idiot.....hmmmmmmm. Crouch hits bar with a great header. Sets up equalizer with strength and presence. Ploughs a tough and lonely furrow on his own. But you think he's dog awful. Hmmmmmmm......idiot you say? For me he's somewhere in between. Credit where credits due it was a great header and he does look good on the ground but I do think we need more of a goalscorer with more pace who's better in the air to lead the line. Crouchy did make a mess of a couple of chances yesterday. I think there's been a thread saying how great everyone of our front three was yesterday however it's clear as a unit they don't work. Diouf from what I've seen of him would be perfect. Were in desperate need of pace and trickery. I'd be more than happy with this lineup come September .............Agudelo.............Diouf.............Shea...............
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 25, 2013 8:18:16 GMT
Sorensen 82, the idiot who lost his village, keep looking son you'll find it one day Idiot.....hmmmmmmm. Crouch hits bar with a great header. Sets up equalizer with strength and presence. Ploughs a tough and lonely furrow on his own. But you think he's dog awful. Hmmmmmmm......idiot you say? I think that's pushing it a bit Foxy. Great header for sure which produced a great save from Speroni but our goal came from yet another miscontrol from Crouch where he then managed to knock the ball on with his head. It was one of the only things he did right all game and even that came from yet another thing he did wrong. Walters and Crouch simply aren't good enough. People say Crouch was better. He probably was better than at Anfield but his better was still not good enough. Same with Walters at Anfield. He was better than normal but still not good enough. Having seen both games, I think it is fair to conclude, at this early stage that we are 3 forwards, a fit Wilson Palacios and a right back away from being a half decent side. 3 goals in 32 says it all really.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 25, 2013 8:23:04 GMT
Idiot.....hmmmmmmm. Crouch hits bar with a great header. Sets up equalizer with strength and presence. Ploughs a tough and lonely furrow on his own. But you think he's dog awful. Hmmmmmmm......idiot you say? I think that's pushing it a bit Foxy. Great header for sure which produced a great save from Speroni but our goal came from yet another miscontrol from Crouch where he then managed to knock the ball on with his head. It was one of the only things he did right all game and even that came from yet another thing he did wrong. Walters and Crouch simply aren't good enough. People say Crouch was better. He probably was better than at Anfield but his better was still not good enough. Same with Walters at Anfield. He was better than normal but still not good enough. Having seen both games, I think it is fair to conclude, at this early stage that we are 3 forwards, a fit Wilson Palacios and a right back away from being a half decent side. 3 goals in 32 says it all really. Can't agree mate. I thought Crouch was good in a very tough role. Put a pacy, intelligent runner close to him a la Defoe and I think we could yet see good things from Crouchy. And don't get me started on JonBoy.....!!! Add in a pacy striker, couple of decent wingers and a good CM and we'll win a cup in the next couple of years. Get the cheques out PC!!!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 25, 2013 8:26:52 GMT
If we get a pacy striker over the next week or so, Crouch will very quickly become surplus to requirements. He simply doesn't have the physical attributes to lead the line in a front 3.
If we pick up a pacy winger or two, Walters will also become surplus to requirements. He offers absolutely nothing other than the headless chicken routine.
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Post by Han Solo on Aug 25, 2013 8:33:11 GMT
If we get a pacy striker over the next week or so, Crouch will very quickly become surplus to requirements. He simply doesn't have the physical attributes to lead the line in a front 3. If we pick up a pacy winger or two, Walters will also become surplus to requirements. He offers absolutely nothing other than the headless chicken routine. Spot on Johnno
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Post by moortownpotter on Aug 25, 2013 8:40:12 GMT
I'm sure the reason Spurs let him go was (apart from the ridiculous price) was that he couldn't play in a pacy 4-3-3. He did ok yesterday for me but I've just got a feeling he's not keen on staying for the evolution.
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Post by mhbsurf on Aug 25, 2013 8:49:29 GMT
To watch a man whose 2ft taller than anyone on the pitch and for him to constantly get out jumped or muscled off the ball is getting a joke. I think after all his recent facial injuries he's shit scared of hurting his precious ugly mug again. Perhaps his beautiful girlfriend has told him that his money isn't everything and if he gets any uglier then he's gonna get the boot!! Jumps 2 feet then bends his body 2 feet to correct his position instead of attacking the ball. Get rid asap..
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 25, 2013 8:53:18 GMT
Whether he should be our regular front man is up for debate as his suitability for the system but he was simply one of our better performers yesterday. How you could single him out for stick from yesterday is staggering.
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Post by 1982stokie on Aug 25, 2013 8:58:39 GMT
Thought he was to easily out muscled but the amount of time he was blatantly shoved in the back and got nothing was shocking
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Post by andystokey on Aug 25, 2013 9:09:38 GMT
I think WE have made Crouch into this version of himself. We have turned him into Mama over 18 months, with the stats to prove it.
Hes been doing as told and it really doesn't play to his strengths. Not the greatest way to end a good career, but as a model pro he hasn't moaned. I think a move would be good for both parties even if we take the hit.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Aug 25, 2013 9:30:12 GMT
He could've scored 3 today. I'm not so sure it's him, or the way we play that doesn't suit him. He's never been prolific, and doesn't fit the lone striker role well. We need another striker that's for sure, but I don't think it'll be Crouchy going this window.
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Post by lordb on Aug 25, 2013 9:35:23 GMT
wow!
some astonishing views imho.
thats football I suppose
I thought he played fine but as has been said needs differnt players up with them
Overall I didnt think anyone had a stellar game & no one was duff (Shawcross 1st half was shocking as was Nzonzi but both recovered 2nd half) a lot of 6 & 7's out of 10
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